Arrowhead Pride

I just don't understand...

How you can have SO much money, be a Top professional player in your sport, the best player on your team, tons of friends, and you got nothing better to do than to be in a club causing problems (?)

It's not even being about an athlete

Or having money, friends, cars, etc.

I’d be just as outraged if one of my buddy’s did this. Ugh this is sick.

To be fair

This is an alleged incident. We don’t know the whole story quite yet.

Yes, but its also now a series of alleged incidents.

Definitely

I’m just pointing out that this particular incident has not been proven true.

DesertBroncoFan - October 23, 2008 reply

Agreed.

Know why nobody’s ever accused me of this type of shit? BECAUSE I DON’T ASSOCIATE WITH PEOPLE OR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. That’s the real problem, not getting caught.

-cw

webby37 - October 20, 2008 reply

Alleged Incidents

Coming from a Broncos fan, there weren’t any charges filed in Brandon Marshall’s cases (at least three of them) and Goodell initially suspended him for three games with the possibility of reducing it to two games if Brandon followed the rules of the suspension and attending league appointed counseling.

Marshall was able to get the suspension reduced to a single game (with two games pay forfeited) because he (and Rod Smith) were able to convince the appeals board that he learned his mistakes and was going to straighten up and fly right.

My point being, despite LJ having several alleged incidents doesn’t absolve him from getting punished by Goodell.

Joe Pa sure knows how to churn 'em out

jobe - October 22, 2008 reply

Nobody

People who cannot handle their alcohol should not drink in public. Hell, they shouldn’t drink at all ! Do you think Larry can handle his alcohol? (sarcastiscally speaking)

The good thing about this is that Larry never did step up to be a team leader. It would have been worst on the young team members if he had. As it is, it’s bad enough.

Igorash - October 20, 2008 reply

The 2008 Kansas City Chiefs

Fun for the whole family.

He seems so self destructive now

He doesn’t want to be in KC, that’s for sure.

Question Is

Who was the witness? Was it a friend of the victim? And will the owner of Club Blonde corroborate the story?

Very true

I wanted to emphasis the “allegedly” portions of this story.

I heard on the radio

The manager of the bar called her to apologize for the incident in his place.

That's what it says

in the incident report too.

Miss India?

Coming home to this.

Ha

Yeah and the financial crisis news. So much fun back here.

Price of gas is going down!

But Herm is still the same.

LJ too!

Calling The Victim Personally

And backing her story in court if charges are pressed are two different things. Club owners enjoy having celebrities come into their establishments because it helps business…even if Johnson was a problem, they don’t necessarily want to do anything that might drive other Chiefs players away.

Getting a bad rep

For his club with the celebrities bouncers tackling them is not good either!

Blonde

Is usually friendly to athletes. It’s one of the few club like atmospheres in Kansas City.

Trying to get released?

Maybe he thinks if he fucks up enough the Chiefs will cut him. Or he just does not like women.

If He Screws Up That Much

He’ll have bigger problems than what he’s got now…Goodell has been very consistent in cracking down on this sort of behavior with suspensions. And teams have no interest in adding more baggage unless they’re completely desperate. Also, if he was making threats and engages in behavior that violates his contract, he could end up being forced to repay guaranteed money.

Plus, if Johnson were to get cut, his reported history of negative behavior this season towards the coaching staff and team in general is going to severely hurt his ability to find another job. So I doubt it’s a gambit. I think Johnson’s just a moron.

Maybe he's hoping to get picked up by the Cowboys

He’d be a good fit there.

dave-o - October 20, 2008 reply

What is it about midnight?

Nothing good happens after midnight.

Does in my house!

I guess there are exceptions

I Always Thought That Was A Good Statement

Right up there with “If you can’t get any by midnight, go home and go to bed.” (Barry Goldwater)

Ridiculous Matt - October 20, 2008 reply

CLEAN HOUSE

I want the entire organization flushed. Burn the damn team to the ground and start over. I am so unfathomably disappointed in this team right now.

Matt you have turned360 degrees!

180 degrees

360 is full circle.

Mully - October 20, 2008 reply

That Too

He just did it twice. :)

He was saying the

same things last year, did a 180, then did another.

Ridiculous Matt - October 20, 2008 reply

I never turned back on LJ

I’ve been saying he’s a problem for a long time.

As far as the organization goes, the continued tolerance of stuff like this, the way they’ve handled Tony, they’ve ruined all the faith I gave them.

HAHA

webby37 - October 20, 2008 reply

Kill your boyfriend....

That sounds like terroristic threat on top of the assault charge.

Dang, dont add fuel to that fire.

Am I wrong though?

Hahaha!

No! Not at all… I just want to hear that. We don’t want L.J. to be our version of Michael Vick…. At least I don’t.

I mean...

I just DON’T want to hear that…. Larry IS screwing up. I know that… Let the guy serve his consequence. Hopefully he changes.

Official Arrowhead Pride Parade - October 20, 2008 reply

Threatening Harm

Is actually 3rd degree assault in the eyes of the law only if the person felt threatened.

ashleylat - October 20, 2008 reply

*Immediate harm

Not sure if it’s the same in MO, but there’s still probably a misdemeanor when combined with the direct assault on the woman.

Yeah

My experience is just saying I’m going to kill your boyfriend will bring a 3rd degree assault charge he could be looking at a 2 separate charges from this one incident.

ashleylat - October 21, 2008 reply

Announcing the 2008 NFL Shit squad

QB – Michale Vick
RB – Larry Johnson
RB – Travis Henry
WR – Chris Henry
WR – Terrell Owens
DB – Pacman Jones
DL – Tank Johnson

Jerseys now on sale! (all monies raised go the defense funds of these needy athletes)
*Note – the stripes on these jerseys are not to be confused with referee stripes. Prison stripes are a unique brand under a licensing agreement with Al Davis.

Tank Johnson

Has actually been doing a very good job of staying out of trouble since he went to Dallas. And the charges that got him kicked off the Bears were dropped and the NFL didn’t feel they merited further suspension.

Guilt by association?

I’m like the New York post, why print any truth?

He Was A Young Guy Who Made A Few Mistakes

And he seems to have overcome them. He can’t really be equated with Henry, Vick, Johnson, and Jones who’ve screwed up repeatedly well past the age where it could be described as youthful indiscretion or who’ve done things that can’t really be pawned off on “being young”.

T.O. probably falls into a different camp since he’s generally stayed out of trouble off the field except for that overdose (which may very well have been accidental). But I don’t have a problem with him being on the list because he’s a team-killing cancer who’s only been quiet in Dallas because they let him do whatever he wants (even if it hurts the team).

you forgot

Cedric Benson

Igorash - October 20, 2008 reply

Eh

Considering both of those charges were dropped I’d say he got hosed on that deal.

As I said yesterday, cut the sh!tbag.

I doubt he'd get cut.

Look at how many chances Pac-Man has gotten. Plus, Herm (being the “player’s coach”) that he is, he won’t cut him. He’ll probably let him serve his suspension and learn from it. I don’t think L.J. has ever had to deal with the league to this degree. I mean, I know he got fined for pulling Troy Palamalu up by the hair, but this is huge… Hopefully he learns his lesson and seeks to redeem himself.

Pacman never hit a woman.

Rather he was trying to help struggling women with his garbage bag of singles.

I have been saying it all day

LJ is plain ol’ trash. There is NO excuse for his behavior and unfortunately, I know of other incidents that didn’t get reported either.

I saw him early on the night that this happened and he was hammered drunk and talking crap to everyone that would listen to him. I promptly got my drink and went the other direction to avoid his sad display. Not only did he have the problem reported but he was talking crap to another friend of mine who left the club rather than be around his behavior.

Just drop him…no one like that is worth having on a team no matter how good they are!

THS '94 - October 20, 2008 reply

LJ's a pussy, on and off the field.

Dances behind the line of scrimmage on the field. Roughs up chicks off the field. Hope he feels like man while he’s pushing a woman around.

I'd take....

100 Bam Morris’s or Vanover’s over a single woman basher. Drug trafficking is fueled by poor judgment and greed. Beating on females, repeatedly, is just disturbing.

Official Arrowhead Pride Parade - October 20, 2008 reply

Larry Johnson is a monster and a predator and belongs in Cincinatti or Leavenworth, not here.

Dan Holmes - October 20, 2008 reply

Cincinatti is lovely!

It’s the KC of the Mideast, and skyline chili, while over-rated is still pretty tasty.

Why not cut LJ now?

We have approx $40M in cap space this year that is not going to be used. We will surely have a lot of cap room next year.

We absorb the hit with no consequence this year, are able to function normally under the cap next year, we cut LJ, and we don’t wait until we are competitive and need every dime of the cap.

DO IT NOW…please.

The hit would come in 2009

And it would be around $16 million. That would be like 15% of our total cap space on a player that isn’t on the team. Let’s run his ass into the ground so he can’t get another job.

You are an evil dude PT, I like it!

I like that idea… As a matter of fact, we kinda have a situation where we don’t really have a qb. Larry complained he wasn’t getting the ball enough why don’t we cut everything out of the playbook and and every play we hand it of to Larry and run him to to the right side every play.

KC Tat Guy - October 20, 2008 reply

sounds good to me....where's that complicated playbook that we had?

aPacificChief - October 21, 2008 reply

Valid point

But are we going to be spending like crazy on free agents next year? If next year is comparable to this one, we would still have $24M of unused cap space after cutting LJ and after singing a top 5 pick, and he is off the books by 2010.

We need a QB

Actually a couple QBs and those are the most expensive contracts. On top of that, the extra cap space is kind of a misnomer because some of it will be used in resigning guys to longterm deals.

Outside of DJ, who warrants a big money deal?

And what FA QBs are we going to sign who demand big money? Are there any out there…at all?

There will be someone

There always is. Pollard (?), Hali (? not big money), Bowe…I know they’re very early into their deals but we could push a bunch of the money up front and get it out of the way.