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It wasn't pretty, exciting or convincing. But the Kansas City Chiefs got a win.
The Chiefs topped the Raiders 20 to 13 this afternoon in a rather boring contest.
Here are a few key points from the game:
At the end of the day, a win is a win. This feels great.
Rest of the AFC West
The Broncos are beating up on the Jets. Stats are here.
The Chargers lost 22 to 16 to the Falcons. Stats are here.
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JaMarcus Russell
Has got to be in the discussion for worst QB in the league right now. Unbelieveable how many wide open throws he screwed up. If the Raiders had a QB who was able to complete even half his throws I don’t think we pull out this win.
UCrawford - November 30, 2008
And It Wasn't Because Of Our Pass Rush
Zero sacks…again.
UCrawford - November 30, 2008
Hate to put it this way
But he seems too mentally slow to play the game.
Chris Thorman - November 30, 2008
He looks like he is trying to put a hole in the receiver everytime he throws a pass.
cmpotter - November 30, 2008
Yup
Everything’s a bullet, whether it’s 4 yards away or 40. The only receiver he seems to be able to hit is his tight end.
UCrawford - November 30, 2008
We forced three of his eleventy bad throws
DJ blitzed once and forced what should have been intentional grounding and Hali and Babin each forced one bad throw…is there a reason we are still only rushing 4 guys 90% of the time? Have we figured out that our front four isn’t good enough for that?
PVChiefsfan - November 30, 2008
+1.
Yeah, we got to him three times, but other than that he had all the time in the world. And he did just about nothing with it.
rockchalk - November 30, 2008
Easy.
He played really well against Denver last week, and he started off hot today, so I figured he might be on the way up. Finally figuring stuff out.
Uh, no. After his 4-6 start, he made about two good passes the rest of the game; everything else was thrown five feet over a receiver’s head and/or five feet ahead of him. It was pretty embarrassing. Bones certainly didn’t have one of his better games, and he made two terrible, atrocious throws, but he still clearly outshined JaMarcus.
rockchalk - November 30, 2008
Mathematically, we aren't eliminated from the playoffs yet
So just keep your “feel good” talk until next week
Official Arrowhead Pride Parade - November 30, 2008
2006 all over again?
Chris Thorman - November 30, 2008
We were mathematically eliminated
this afternoon-but we could still finish 2nd in the division
KHAZAD - December 1, 2008
Happy we finally put up a W on the road.
All I can say is thank you Raiders!!!
cmpotter - November 30, 2008
Is anyone tired of the TG basketball analogies yet?
How long has this guy been in the NFL. Sorry it just got old I guess.
cmpotter - November 30, 2008
What are the odds
that Herm is fired at the end of this season after this win?
Ridiculous Matt - November 30, 2008
Probably About The Same As If He Lost This And Every Other Game
I don’t think Clark Hunt cares that much any more. Herm’s probably coming back…and if this win is the reason for it, it shouldn’t be.
UCrawford - November 30, 2008
Realistically? >15%
Which is maybe down from like 17, but it’s entirely possible that it’s been 0 all season with the ‘rebuilding’ mantra going around.
This kills the ‘historically bad’ monkey on his back, but we’d be surprised if anybody major other than maybe special teams gets canned.
Official Arrowhead Pride Parade - November 30, 2008
Hate To Say It
But that’s probably right. And I’ll bet Herm will stick up for Priefer too so he probably won’t go either.
UCrawford - November 30, 2008
Our kick coverage has gotten better as the season progressed (perhaps because Barth can actually kick it to the endzone occasionally)
but our return game is still ridiculous (not in the good way)
PVChiefsfan - November 30, 2008
Yup
I’d attribute most of our improvement in that area to putting in a good kicker instead of the guy Herm and Priefer wanted.
UCrawford - November 30, 2008
Keep telling you guys, Herms job has not been in danger at any time this season
They knew this was going to be a rough season and it has been. Next year will be the determining year.
ChiefDJ - November 30, 2008
I've been sayin it
Play to Tony Gonzales and we will get to the W.
I never got to see or hear the game. Only what I’ve been reading around the net. It still feels good to see a win against those sad sack raiders in their own house.
GO CHIEFS!!
bigbearomaha - November 30, 2008
It was really nice to see us play well in the second half.
cmpotter - November 30, 2008
If Asomugha was on Gonzalez
who was shutting down Bowe? I think he only had three balls go his way (1 drop, 1 good catch, 1 great game saving catch)?
PVChiefsfan - November 30, 2008
Seemed like Thigpen was locked on TG most of the game
The Raiders were getting a lot of pressure on him so there wasn’t a lot of time to go through progressions, so maybe thats the reason. But didn’t seem like he was really looking for anyone else.
ChiefDJ - November 30, 2008
Sheesh
Bills scored THREE today. How terrible is our defense??
Chris Thorman - November 30, 2008
Run Defense, Run Defense, Run Defense
The difference had a lot more to do with the fact that Fargas is just not a good runner. We still made him look like a workhorse, but that dictated both games. Lynch and Jackson own the lines, Trend Edwards get his groove back. Fargas gets contained, McFadden is a no show on the ground, boom, Jamarcus Russell goes back to his hefty boy modelling school mode.
Official Arrowhead Pride Parade - November 30, 2008
Plus, we had five turnovers.
One of which directly led to a TD on the return. And they scored like 20 points off TOs, right?
So, there’s that, which is a huge difference. Plus Trent Edwards came out of the game in the second half.
But still, yeah, our D sucked. It played much better today, but it was absolutely pathetic last Sunday.
rockchalk - November 30, 2008
Strange Games
Last week: Bills beat us by 20, Raiders win big over the Broncos
This week: Bills get beat by SF, We beat the Raiders, and the Broncos win big over the Jets
Just goes to prove that the team has to show up and play the game. We did well today and I’ll give the team credit for playing better than the Raiders today, which is all that matters. Can we do it two weeks in a row? I think we can show up and beat the Broncos in their house as well.
TXChiefan - November 30, 2008
"I think we can show up and beat the Broncos in their house as well."
They do that, and they should turn a few heads.
We’ve been lousy at Mile-High for years. If Herm can haul in this year’s Bad News Chiefs (Bears), and even squeak out a win there, folks will need to re-think about screaming for his head.
Ain’t been a coach here that I can remember doing as well as .500 in Denver, long-term. Herm gets us to the point where we got a decent shot at 4 Home/away wins against the Faders & Donk-o’s, and he may be a keeper.
Bleedingredandgold - December 1, 2008
What's Glen Dorsey's deal?
DJ shows up today, Leggett and Boiman look serviceable, Hali even makes a few plays, but still no Dorsey playmaker plays.
Official Arrowhead Pride Parade - November 30, 2008
D-taclkes need help to make "big" plays
Especially the other tackle, ends, and LBs. If those ai’nt soaking up boidies, they double the best guy.
Ergo, how often was he 2teamed? Also, howoften did a 2team on him allow a good play by someone else?
Bleedingredandgold - November 30, 2008
Give the ST group a little credit today
they made some plays, if not picking up returns.
I miss Savage. He may not have had better results, but he was more fun to watch.
Bleedingredandgold - November 30, 2008
Agreed
Savage brings no less to the return game than Robinson and has more value to the offense.
Idahochief - November 30, 2008
Robinson
is by far the better returner to me. Doesn’t have lighting speed but he jukes well, is hard to hit, and controls the ball better than Savage. Savage doesn’t have the technique and he looks on the field like what he is: a fill in
KansasCityShuffle - November 30, 2008
When Robinson
starts breaking the occasional long one consistently, I’ll agree that he’s better.
Savage may not have the technique, but he’s generally been good for an extra yard or 3 after contact, and Robinson’s not as good a hitter, from what I’ve seen. What’s the stats sheet say?
Bleedingredandgold - December 1, 2008
It is sad
That Savage, who strains to be average, may be the best the Chiefs have shown us the past 2 years.
KHAZAD - December 1, 2008
Hold a good return man down
Then take advantage of a gift on ST to score= 1 win
KHAZAD - December 1, 2008
I'm confused
What happens now?
sir eccles - November 30, 2008
Chan earned his money today.
I thought Chan did an excellent job managing Thiggy today. He could tell his throwing was a little off so he utilized his other talents for gain. Adaptable play calling seems to be his strong suit.
Idahochief - November 30, 2008
+1
And Thiggy seems adaptable, too
Bleedingredandgold - November 30, 2008
Did Herb Taylor start today
Lanier63 - November 30, 2008
Not Sure
He was playing right guard for awhile, though.
UCrawford - November 30, 2008
Saw Wade Smith at RG most of the day
So Herb Taylor might have just been filling in for him a couple plays.
ChiefDJ - November 30, 2008
Probably
It was in the first quarter so he might have just subbed in for a bit. Got a false start penalty when he jumped the snap by a half-second.
UCrawford - November 30, 2008
He was playing RT on that play. The idiot announcers thought he was playing RG since Cottam was in a 3 point stance to the right of him.
DThomasReigns - November 30, 2008
He Was The Guard
He jumped right across the front of the center as he was snapping.
I agree with you about the announcers (we got a terrible draw for this game) but they were right about his position.
UCrawford - November 30, 2008
He was the RG.
Just on an unbalanced line, with McIntosh to the left of Albert effectively lining up as a ‘tight end’ and Cottam to the right of Taylor.
That’s why it looked like he was the RT.
rockchalk - December 1, 2008
I stand corrected. Thanks.
DThomasReigns - December 1, 2008
Niswanger was dinged up
the play before the false start- Smith moved to center, Taylor came in and played Guard.
KHAZAD - December 1, 2008
Good catch
ChiefDJ - December 1, 2008
Next time I should ask "Who's on first?" :)
Lanier63 - December 1, 2008
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