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Carl Peterson Resigns

No, seriously.

Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson resigned today effective at the end of the season.
"On behalf of my family and the entire Kansas City Chiefs organization, I want to thank Carl for his two decades of service to the Chiefs," Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt said. "Both Carl and I agreed that immediately initiating the search for the next Chiefs general manager would be the best thing for the future of the organization, and he will be resigning following the 2008 season."
Hunt said the search for a new General Manager will begin immediately. Vice President Denny Thum will serve as the Chiefs interim president and general manager.

“I am proud of my association with the Kansas City Chiefs and our many accomplishments over the last 20 years,” Peterson said. “I thank the Hunt family for the opportunity to lead the Chiefs organization and sincerely appreciate all the coaches, players, administrators and Chiefs employees with whom I’ve had the pleasure of working in my time here. Most importantly, I want to thank Chiefs fans around the country for their passionate support through the years. Chiefs fans are the finest in all of professional football.”

Per the statement by the team, he is resigning from all three positions he holds - General Manager, President and CEO.

Carl Peterson will leave the Kansas City Chiefs GM position with one year left on his contract. Don't get too excited about his absence though. Peterson will be picking his successor.

Read more from the Mothership.

Video of Clark Hunt's press conference.

Much, much more to come on this. Wow. Just wow.

Update: Via an appearance on the NFL Network, Clark Hunt said ultimately he will determine the fate of coach Herm Edwards.  He also said he expects the team's new GM to come from outside the organization without any ties to the Chiefs.

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BULLSHIT!

It’s not April 1st. Please, pretty please…….don’t play with our emotions like this, Chris

It's real

I’m floored. Didn’t expect this.

Nothing in the way of "news"

on this quite yet. We’ll see if anymore info comes out on why he’s leaving early.

I hope heads rolled

after yesterday’s loss. That Carl got called into Clark’s office and he laid it on the line for him. Wow! Christmas came early!

I have to give credit where credit is due

and perhaps Clark is a lot more savy than we cut him slack for

Herm to follow?

Surely he would not let the guy bring him in go, then keep Herm.

It's a great sign

We all saw how empty Arrowhead was yesterday. Couple that with yesterdays loss. Good time to show them the door……..don’t let ya hit on the ass on the way out!

don't let it hit ya
Don't let the door hit ya, where the good lord split ya!
I knew something was going to happen today, just felt it

Just did not know who was going to go. UC is dancing naked in the streets in Wichita!

810 reports the same.

HELL YESSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hopefully Washington

is stupid enough to fire Zorn after one season….

Is this all smoke and mirrors though?

 If Carl hires from within, is this just a sham for public support?

I am shocked!

Do we have any evidence that Clark gave him the axe? Or was this made by Carl?

Its on the team's website as well.

It is not coincidence that this occurred the day after one of the most absurd, catastrophic, improbable losses I have ever witnessed as a football fan (longtime fans will recall Mile High Stadium in 1992, when the Chiefs led 19-6 at the 2-minute warning). I’m certain Mr. Hunt had a conversation with CP and said this could be done graciously today, or it could be done ungraciously the day after the season finale.

Seeing that meltdown, and an embarrassingly empty stadium, had to be too much. The Chiefs are looking at 2-14, maybe 3-13. Something had to give. Let’s get a top-notch football guy running the show. There’s enough pieces in place that it shouldn’t take that long. I want it to be fun to be a Chiefs fan again. I want meaningful football in December.

Need coaching to go along with it.

It is not all on Carl, other than he brought in this lame duck.

I'm sorry I don't remember that Denver game

I was only two

My bet

The empty stadium was a bigger deal than the current results. Pure business decision.

Probably

I’m just glad that he’s gone. Business or not.

Exactly how

are the two not tied to each other?

NFL network is reporting

He will step down from all three positions.

Wow

Link or tv?

T.V. got it scrolling along the bottom.

Maybe it is not a sham, maybe Clark is going to clean house, so the new GM can start fresh!

Herm should follow, and step down as well.

He is just as big a part of this mess as Carl.

I wouldn't say

that Herm is just as big a part as Carl. Carl’s been here for 20 years!

I still am with Herm

I know some hate the way he coaches, but I think he has really shown us adaptability and the way he can learn as well. He is getting outstanding effort from the players, it is just that the players aren’t quite there yet.

It is coming. I hope Herm stays on one more year to prove his worth.

I'm with you TXC! I'll give Herm at least one more year.

Then for me I’ll feel that we gave him every opportunity to succeed.

My guess...

Is they promote Bill Kuharich…which I would not be against…he has been in the mix for every GM job in the past year…But a complete housecleaning would not hurt my feelings!

Jason Whitlock said back in October

That he thinks Kuharich would run personnel, Thum would be salary cap and Carl would move to the business side in a CEO role…

Would you be against that?

I’d prefer getting someone new.

I'd be totally against it

Completely new front office. Let the new guy decide on Herm.

Herm is a bs artist.

I would prefer a whole new setup.

Oh I get it

He resigned, as in re-signed, as in he signed again right? Another 20 years of Carl, hurrah!

LOL

I honestly thought that’s what it was at first…..WOW this is nuts!

The mothership says the same

All three positions.

haha...

I made sure…

What about Arrowhead?

Wasn’t Peterson in charge of the renovating Arrowhead? I’m glad to see him gone from the football side of things but what will happen to our stadium if the manager of the project leaves in the middle of the effort?

Guess he will still oversee the construction?
Don't worry

plenty of people know how to manage a rennovation project.

Wait, if there's a new GM effective ASAP

What are the chances that the new GM renews Herm Edwards contract? I think Edwards is gonna be gone after this year.

That would be my guess

Marty as GM and Cowher as Coach looks a lot more interesting. I still think Herm’s a good coach but I am not one to pass down an upgrade.

Not ASAP

At the end of the season.

The Chiefs named vice president Denny Thum as as interim president and general manager

Thats what espn’s story says

LOL

You scanned the post too quickly:

Vice President Denny Thum will serve as the Chiefs interim president and general manager.

This is interesting…

You think Herm is gone

at the end of the season PT?

No

I think he’s got another year.

Well

I mean it all depends on who the new GM is. He’s the one that will most likely be making the decision. Clark’s shown he’s fairly hands off.

Isn't

Marty looking for a GM job?

I think we see a return

of Marty with Cowher, do not let my alarm clock go off!

ha sure did! oops
ohh yeah

Its a freakin national holiday in chiefs world!!

No doubt

Mark it on your calendars, folks.

Important Note...

The link given in this article…The quote only says that when Carl was Re-Signed to his extension that they talked about him appointing a successor…I take that as, if the team is doing as well as it is now (when he signed it) then we will talk about your successor…It does not say it is a sure thing by any means…

So…yea…

And I didnt get a hat tip or anything?!?!? lol I dont deserve it for the horrid content I had in that thing lol

I tip my hat to you!!!!!!
LOL

We had ya beat by about 7 minutes. I was just floored when I heard the news. Then the Star link stopped working.

But

Thank you for posting it. It’s a lot easier to get all the news when everyone posts stuff you know.

yea...

it took me forever to get the deal…I got the news when 610 text me…is all…I just wanted to get it out…nothing more….lol

Yeah

Thanks….unfortunately I don’t listen to local radio a whole lot so I miss a lot of that stuff.

It's an exciting time to be a Chiefs Fan!

December 15th should become a national holiday!

Merry Christmas!

There is a Santa!

EVIDENCE CLARK READ MY POSTS HERE ON AP!
Alright Lanier

work one up quick on the HC!

I gotta say

Lanier deserves most of the credit for this :)

YEP!

Lanier are you still here? Get to work, you have a post due!

Agreed. And get to work, like Eric said. :)
May have to re-do

my signature! Oh well I am not afraid!

This is exciting but

I’ll say thanks to Carl for some great years. I do wish you and your family well.

I Will Agree With That

No hard feelings, thank you to Carl for taking the high road and stepping aside, and I appreciate the service rendered and I’m sure he did his best.

I agree...

…he turned the place around…and then took it back to crap…this is overdue…but yes, we wish him well..wherever he ends up….

And his 70 Million well too for 19 years of work.

I know Carl, you don’t know Carl and (thank goodness) you are no Carl ;)

He did his best

And took a lot of criticism but never faltered. I guess there’s some positive somewhere in that.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!

Am I dead? Is this heaven?

I think I’m having a heart attack.

Ha...

…oh there you are UC…lol

Oh Martha this is the big one!
I think

it’s Hey Elizabeth I think this is the big one, ah hell who cares. going streaking

LOL

I figured more than a few people would be happy with this.

Honestly, I was so happy and relieved I almost started to cry. It actually had to hold it back.
I'm Almost Crying Now

Honestly, I had resigned myself to him coming back. I want to drive up to Arrowhead right now and drive around the parking lot honking and screaming at the top of my lungs.

Herm, your ass is next, buddy.

think carl did it

to save herm?

Best Thing

To happen to the Chiefs all year. Including the draft.

year? how about decade
Clark live on NFLN
He expects the new GM to be from outside the organization and will be focusing his search on someone without ties to the Chiefs!!!!!!
no shit?
Yep, that's almost verbatim.
IT IS HEAVEN!!!

Bye bye Bill…your crappy drafts have not gone unnoticed or unpunished.

I’ve got no problems with Thum sticking around, by the way…he was just an accountant anyway and he did a good job with the caps and contracts. It wasn’t his fault that Peterson affixed those contracts to crappy players.

They are talking about it

 Clark is talking on NFL network! They are going to evaluate Herm in the off season!

I don't have NFLN

What did he say??

See my post above this one
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY!!!

VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!

ROFLMAO

Pioli….COME ON DOWN

Outside of the organization!
Someone from outside the org!
I FRIGGIN KNEW

that something was up.

Clark has assured ticket sales for next year. Wise business decision Clark, wise business decision.

cynical much?
No Realist...just like about this season

You should try it sometime…does wonders for attitudes

you are goofy...

lol…

Considering the Mickey Mouse season we've had

…I’ll take that as a compliment :)

I Don't Blame Clark For Caring About The Bottom Line

That’s what good businessmen do.

As long as he combines that with a drive to win a championship, he’s still aces in my book.

Superbowl =good business
Agreed

The bottom line should always be combined with an attempt to put the best possible product on the field. With Peterson the fans got one for the last decade, but not the other. Hopefully the new guy can deliver both.

And Play Nice, Truth...

This is a good day for Chiefs fans. We don’t have to squabble about Peterson any more because he’s OUT OF HERE!!! We can find new things to squabble about. Better things. Things that don’t involve having to rehash a decade of futility.

Just need to vent a little

It’s been such a long time coming. Just the idea that the status quo has changed and we have the POTENTIAL to become a SB team with a new outlook.

I have to admit that my views of Clark have become more positive. Maybe he is the type of owner that will “only take so much”

God, I Hope So

His dad never got rid of the people who mismanaged that team. Even Jack Steadman hung around forever. Maybe Clark really is different.

Thank you, Clark Hunt…thank you.

New GM will evaluate

Coaching, fresh set of eyes to evaluate everything, and new GM will decide on coach.

Lombardi says...

its 50-50 whether herm will be back next season…

Herm is as good as gone!

No GM from outside the org will want his A$$!

Dude, We Should Have An Arrowhead Pride Party This Weekend

I don’t care if we don’t know each other…is there anyplace we can get together and drink heavily?

Arrowhead....sunday?
Cannot drink anymore

Wildman comes out, bad things happen!

I will drive from Tampa Florida for this.
Thank god our nightmare is over.

Carl, thanks for your first 10 years, I wish both parties had moved on a decade ago and we’d all be better off.

Fantastic news that we’ll be bringing in someone from outside.

Scott Pioli please! You’ve got to at least offer it to him!

I don’t care about Herm Edwards anymore. As long as we bring in a competent GM, then the new guy will pick a coach, and that coach won’t be Herm.

Marty or Cowher if we had a choice?

GM or Coach if we had a choice?
I would love Cowher as our coach, and keeping Gailey would be good.

See my post above!
I DON'T CARE, I DON'T CARE, I DON'T CARE

All I care about right now is that it’s over!!! I’ll worry about what the Chiefs should do to replace him tomorrow.

This just made my week.

Better go on a beer run!
Im Back

UCrawford you have to be the happiest man alive. I’ve decided to join the Chiefs cause again. I went into Hibernation after the Jets loss and told myself I will not talk about the Chiefs until Carl or Herm and hopefully both go. Now that Carl is gone, I am back.

Welcome Back, Brother

I am ecstatic and it’s a good day to be a Chiefs fan.

Pioli. Wouldn't he love to come here as GM and stick it to the Chargers twice a year?!!
YEP...and he doesn't even need to brush up the resume
From now on....

Holidays added to the Chiefs calendar in the same fashion as Good Friday and Easter…

Dec. 13th…Day our Founder died…
Dec. 15th…Day Carl Resigned

Into the darkness and brought back out…HAZAAA

Ugh. Well, get ready for a decade of suck.

At least a decade.

You don’t lose the people in charge of the rebuilding in the middle of the rebuilding. The guys who come in will have a different vision of how things should be done and change it up.

You think they’ll stick with Thiggy and the ArrowSpread? Probably not. Especially not if you bring in Cowher and Marty.

That means that we start rebuilding. Again. We get to enjoy several more seasons of nothing good while the new guys try to get their systems in place. Except, now we’ve got the precedent established that you bail out when it doesn’t work immediately.

So, Clark’ll get frustrated when they don’t go from 2-14 or 3-13 to 13-3 in a single season.

Welcome to New Detroit, guys.

Actually...

Detroit suffered from KEEPING the same guy….so…doesnt really translate…

I was about to say that

but then I remebered Detroit’s record this year too.

Millen Got Fired Mid-Season

There’s nothing Mayhew could have done to fix that situation except what he did…trade Roy Williams for an exorbitant price. Millen could never have pulled that off.

By the way, if the Chiefs are going to be looking for new GM candidates immediately, I wonder if this bumps Mayhew out of the running since he’s still the guy in Detroit?

I'm not saying Millen wasn't the problem

I’m just pointing out an obvious comeback.

What, Millen Coming Here?

It’s not going to happen. His career as a front office executive is fucking over. Nobody will ever hire him to run a team.

I didn't say I want Millen!

NO NO NO! I do NOT want MIllen!

Dude

Carl Peterson’s teams haven’t won a playoff game in 15 years. This was the decade of suck. And it’s finally come to an end.

Not yet

We’ve got to get a competent replacement first. Can’t get ahead of ourselves and anger the football gods.

Agreed

I need to get home and start doing up a short list…I wonder if the Chiefs will announce who their candidates are? If we can find out, we can start digging and checking their bios.

Good idea

I am looking forward to what you find.

Yes...

…We already HAVE been a shinier version of Detroit…

lol...I never thought of it that way.

But considering the past two seasons…we haven’t been that far apart.

Yea...

and I mean that we have been winning some games…but not when it matters…in a looooooong time….so we are just like them already…just a flashier version of the Lions…

If there will even be anyone at the game on Sunday...

They should ALL have “COME BACK MARTY” signs

Doesn't matter.

I don’t care. You don’t fire the guy in charge of the rebuiliding efforts in the middle of the rebuilding.

This is a bigger setback to the Chiefs becoming a playoff contender any time in the near future than letting Carl finish this out would’ve been. Clark should’ve let Carl and Herm finish it out until the end of Herm’s contract next year. Then, if it didn’t work, scrap it and start over.

Now, we’ve had two years of scrapping it and starting over (or, in actuality, one year of trying to hold it together with duct tape and one year of actually starting over) and they’re scrapping it before they see if it’s got a shot at working.

So, rather than seeing improvement next year, we’re going to get to see more rebuilding as the new guys try to fit Herm’s square pegs into their own round holes. And then, when that doesn’t work, they’ll blame it on Herm’s system and scrap it.

Then, they’ll bring in their own guys that fit their own system. And, they’ll try to make that work. Except, midway through the season where things are looking bleak in the record books but you’re seeing improvement on the field, Carl balks.

And, then we’re looking at new guys in the front office and in the coaching staff and the whole thing starts all over again.

“Carl balks” should’ve been “Clark balks”. Too many people in this drama with ‘C’, ‘A’, ‘R’, and ‘L’ in their names.

I understand your point

but I honestly don’t see how things could get much worse. Rebuild the rebuild I say.

Clark want's to build the organization the right way.
I agree and I don't see how the new GM

brings back Herm and the Gang. Start from scratch.

We already were.

We already are starting from scratch. This is the first year that Herm had really been given the chance to start things over and get rid of all of the old players and build it all back up with rookies.

Exactly my point

So how could it get any worse. If you are going to make a change, a change that I think needs to be made, now is the time. Why wait for another year to see if they can turn this around? A change needed to be made and soon because what decent candidates there might be out there for the GM position are going to get grabbed up quickly. We may never see this many GM jobs open at once and I feel pretty good about the fact that the Chiefs job is a premier one. Great franchise, great fans, good owner (definitely renewed my trust in him. Thanks Clark). Perhaps we can grab a fresh mind who can shape the Chiefs for the next 10-15 years? Carl has been the King for most of my adult life and I can’t take one more season.

I am worried that you could be right

starting another rebuild in the middle of a rebuild, the only way to make it not as bad is keeping the coach, which many wouldn’t be happy with either.

This is going to implode.

No two ways about it.

No way, there are better

Football minds out there, Herm, and Carl were not the end all be all of things.

They Weren't Even Close To The End All, Be All

Like I said, it’s the same mentality as an abusive relationship. Chiefs fans have been getting mistreated by Peterson for so long that they start believing he really is the only thing keeping this team together. But in actuality, he’s just the guy holding the team back.

FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, LORD GOD ALMIGHTY WE ARE FREE AT LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dr. Martin Luther Chief

This has got to be the nail in Herm's coffin too

A new GM would almost have to start complety over with a new coaching staff. I feel sorry for all those families at Christmas time, but now is the time to start looking for a new GM. With the Lions position and possibly a couple of others besides us, there should be some people throwing their hat in the ring. If you want a GM position, this would be a great time to become one. This jobs don’t open very often.

I just realized

he was hired on Dec. 19th 1989 and announced his resignation on Dec. 15th. Should have waited until Friday…nah, it’s good…today is good.

I'm happy it was today

Makes life feel good

haha...

….better for the team….get the distraction over with earlier in the week…

Wow...

People are going bonkers here! Hahahaha!!!

Finially

some good Chiefs news

Now lets move and get some fresh blood in here

From outside the organization?

Now I know how Lions fans felt when Millen stepped down (and I hope that our fate is better than theirs have been so far.) This is an amazing early Christmas present!

It will be

He left mid-season so his replacement really hasn’t been given enough time to make a difference….now I’m not saying he should be given 19 years mind you ;)

I've already forgotten

the Chargers loss.

Interview with Clark Hunt on 810 right now
it was just a few questions, though
Anything good?
Hunt said

“Carl was supportive of the decision”, which Keitzman says implies that Carl was terminated and didn’t resign.
Also, that the business side and the football side will be seperated like most of the rest of the NFL does.

Now they are talking to Mitch Holtus

Clark also said

that the new GM will have big input on the coaching staff once the season is over. But Clark will ultimately make the final decision. Interesting.

Clark said the business side hires may come from within and
and the GM interviews will be with some members of playoff teams
and the GM will have major input on the coaching staff
Like our current GM does.
AHHHHH!!!!

See ya, Hermie!!!

I’m sure that EVERYONE outside of the organization knows that Herm is NOT the head coach for this team.

Wow

That’s interesting.

I think we all should pray...

Please… God.

Bring to us Bill Cowher and Marty Shottenheimer. I promise I wont steal pens from work anymore. I promise to stop lying to my girlfriend when I say “I’m tired. I wanna go to sleep now” when I’m REALLY playing Madden and she’s only distracting me.

PLEASE GOD!

LOL!!

(cough) I don’t know anyone who has done that (cough)

Yeah.

Bring back Martyball. That was an exciting time to be a Chiefs fan.

Or, get Cowher so we can go smashmouth and forget all about the passing game. I mean, it isn’t really like we like watching D Bowe and Tony G anyway, right? They can just be there to support the straight-ahead, power-running style of … well, whomever we bring in because it won’t be LJ.

Gee golly am I jazzed about what’s ahead.

Mitch Holtus's show in Olathe tonight

T-gon is the guest and Clark Hunt is going to lead off the show with an interview.

Damn you, Esteban. You keep beating me! :)
my radio broadcast is quicker

I forgot about Lenny, though, so you had taht on me.

I've never listened to it but I think he said it is on around 7:10 PM CST.
Holthus said Clark Hunt, Tony G, and Lenny will be on his radio show on 101 The Fox tonight.
Cue the church bells!

The kind is dead!

Thanks for everything, Carl. This is about 10 years too late but good news nonetheless.

Ding Dong the Bitch is dead!
I feel like we're the munchkins in Munchkin-Land

FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, LORD GOD ALMIGHTY WE ARE FREE AT LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder if Tony G will be more inclined to stay in KC over the off-season now? I hope Mitch asks him tonight.
I haven't seen so much Chiefs unity in soooooo long a time. Finally, something positive the vast majority has wanted

…Tito, give me some tissue…Jermaine, stop teasing

Clark's interview on 810 let it slip that Carl was fired, he didn't resign.

Clark said “he (Carl) supported the decision.”

Meaning, Clark made the decision and Carl supported it.

Translation

He was asked to resign gracefully.

Smart Way To Handle It

No sense in throwing Carl to the wolves if there’s no need. And prospective GM candidates will appreciate a boss who exercises discretion more than one who throws his employees under the bus publicly to make a statement.

Clark Hunt handled it well.

where can i listen to this interview!!!

http://radiotime.com/WebTuner.aspx?StationId=29237&

This is just 810 streaming, but they have played it twice already and may do it again.

yeah you can also go to 810whb.com and listen to live broadcast
I'm on a Mac and sometimes have problems with WHB's stream for some reason.
If the first link doesn't work you can launch from this page:

http://radiotime.com/station/s_29237/Sports_Radio_810_810.aspx

Ohhhh more stuff

NFL Network is about to hear from Clark Hunt after the break. Might be more of the same but I’ll report if there is anything interesting.

I will wait and let you post this time. :P
no by all means throw in your info too

we are the media messengers right now I gues

Damn Time Warner

I wish I had NFLN.

ESTEBAN!! ESTEBAN!! ESTEBAN!!! ESTEBAN!!! ESTEBAN!!

(Sorry… Life Aquatic… Bill Murray)

I was apart of team zissou for halloween!
NO WAY!!

I HAVE A LIFE AQUATIC PARTY LAST WEEK!!

I saw people in Hollywood dressed up as that on Halloween.

haha perfect, we even got the team zissou shoes online

classic movie

paart of*

some friends and I

Very happy about this

This franchise so desperately needed a change like this.

Chris, PT, is the site getting blown up by visits with this news? It seems a little laggy.
maybe we need a second half thread
LOL

Yeah there are a ton of hits coming through.

OMG....810 is going nuts. They're playing "Celebration" and then "the muchkins" from Wizard of Oz

I’m happier then a $5 hooker getting a $10 tip…..what a great line.

I'm not even lying...

I was SO happy… I freakin texted my Father (who I havent spoken to in 6 years) and said, “WE FIRED CARL PETERSON!!”

(TRUTH, I’m laughing my ass off here at work when I hear how crazy people are going on 810 and they play that song.)

Dude...I'm so happy for you. Keitzman went NUTS and they keep replaying it.

He said it’ll probably be on youtube…can’t wait.

Probably good timing

The replacement is gonna need to get on their pony regarding our next draft.

Innerwebz hugs to all!!!
Wow

Chris and PT you guys should make a poll to see how many people are in favor of this! For me it’s about time. Let the good times roll..this is just the beginning of the chiefs back to glory

Good idea
And then...

 DEATH TO ANYONE WHO ISNT IN FAVOR OF IT!

One thing I will give him credit...

for is the whole youth movement that we took on. In the long run it will prove to have been a good decision.

Thank you, Sweet Jesus

Christmas came early!

Poll is up!

Head here to vote!

Also, use that thread when this one gets full.

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