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And with the 34th pick in the NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select:

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Virginia Tech CB Brandon Flowers

This is a solid pick up in a major position of need. Kudos to the Chiefs' draft team. So far, they're doing a fantastic job. I'd imagine the Chiefs are feeing good about some later round linemen, which is why they would skip over that position in the second round.


We're approaching the second round folks. The Chiefs have had an ideal draft so far in many fans' eyes -- LSU DT Glenn Dorsey with the #5 pick and Virginia OG Brandon Albert at #15 via a trade with the Detroit Lions.

I opened this thread up because the first draft thread was freezing up on me. Let me know if this happens to you at all -- chiefssportsblognation@gmail.com.

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Good call, I just tried to scroll up, and was amazed
BTW-Awesome job with the new site, Chris.
The credit

goes to our guy Trei and his web team. But thanks.

Didn't have any trouble.

Though I’m glad SB Nation finally got around to updating the football blogs to the new format.

Yep

It was a long process. I think it came out pretty damn well.

Definitely.

I’ve been on multiple baseball blogs up to this point, just waiting for AP’s turn to come around. It’s a much more convenient format.

Just got back in

Battery issue in the parking lot of a 7 eleven. I’m almost freaked out.

Glad to be on the couch with a beer.

I love the new auto-refresh...

and the entire SB Nation 2.0.

Am in absolutely frickin’ love with it.

It has made this Draft a little better, although it is tough to get better than getting Dorsey and Albert so far…

Ive heard alot of people talk smack about brandon albert in the time leading up to the draft. I gotta say, so far im excited about our picks! Definately have done what Herm set out to do. Lets see what other picks we can get.

A lot of that smack

was based on picking Albert at #5. I think we got a great deal.

Exactly.

I was one of Albert’s biggest detractors, because I had no interest in spending the #5 overall pick (or even something like #10 after trading back) in a guard, who might be a tackle.

At 15, and having already picked up Dorsey, it is great value and I love the pick.

Is It Just Me...

or could Mike Mayock single handedly take over this NFL Network draft program and it be all the better for it?

It's almost like he has too much inside info
It's amazing...

how one man can have so much insight.

Mike Mayock >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kiper Jr.

+1.

It really isn’t close at all…

atlanta trades up
NOOOOOO!
We needed Baker in the 2nd
That hurts bad

I really wanted him

I mean, that's a huge hit

If he came out last year he would have been the 2nd tackle taken behind Joe Thomas.

He is a player. We missed out there.

That sucks.

Is this seriously that bad?
IMO, he's an elite tackle

but, I don’t really do this full time so who knows…

No the Chiefs deal or wait for Collins
What about WR?
wait

until the 5th round for D-Bowe’s twin.

well

they have three thirds… i think they might take a WR there. jordy nelson or early doucet if they are there still.

What about Mendenhall?
IF

chiefs take carson, trade back up for collins, i could get back to playing call of duty and be super freaking happy about what has happened in the the first day.

unfortunately, the cowboys are going CB as well.

or RB

With Felix Jones

dallas

has another pick though… where they go CB>

No WRs taken yet, they need them

looks like he is on the phone and out of the picture

hmm I appear to have replied to the wrong thread

There is some serious value falling right now.
That was a tremendous reach for Baker...

So while I wanted him at 35, I’m over it.

Right now, I want to sit at 35 and hope one of the ‘good’ corners fall to us. Jenkins, Cason or Flowers.

Mendenhall is gone right now to Dallas, I bet.

I still think it is Jones
probably...

Mendenhall is the better RB, IMO, but Felix Jones matches up better compared to Mario Barber…

Is Mendenhall's...

one year of numbers what’s hurting him right now?

If he is there in the 2nd, we need to look at him.
+1.

It would be kind of repetitive with LJ, but it would be absolutely tremendous value.

exactly

like i said, if we can get carson, then trade back up in the second for collins for a third and a third round swap… i would be pleased.

Extremely entertaining, fast, and satisfying 1st round.
+1.

Absolutely love the new format…

Did Goodell make the decision to streamline

or did the owners have to approve it?

Mendenhall

goes to the Steelers. Hes a power RB, the kind they love and works well in their set.

Good call.

Although they do have Willie Parker…

I wouldn’t be surprised if someone like Detroit tried to trade back into the first round and grabbed Mendenhall…

I am seriously loving the NFLN commentary...

Deion is crazy like Keyshawn, but good crazy IMO.

Mayock is worlds better than Kiper Jr, and right almost every time, and I like Marshall Faulk.

I was planning on switching back and forth, but I have stuck mostly with just NFLN. They are just so much better.

Plus, Eisen >>>>> Berman.

+1 on Eisen over Boomer

It all depends on if you want insight or catchphrases. NFLN offers the former, ESPN the latter.

wish we got NFLN on timewarner.

there is a live stream on nfl.com

Completely agree
Brohm/Henne

If they fall to the 2nd, should we take them to compete with Croyle?

Eh.

I would rather take a corner, but if Cason/Flowers/Jenkins are all gone at that point, I wouldn’t be opposed to Brohm.

Not a big fan of Henne..

doubt it. there is need elsewhere… i figure they’ll take woodsen if he’s there in the fourth

I'm of the side that thinks...

Croyle doesn’t need pushing yet. He and Bowe really hooked up when they were on the field together. Croyle’s got a gun on him, just a little erratic. I’d like to stick it out with him, and more so address our CB need before turning to any QB selections.

I say we trade and take 2 corners early in the second since Baker is gone
nah

i like collins in the second.

Whitlock says we will take Jeff George out of retirement
ESPN

Hadn’t shown the Steelers pick and NFLN had

11 more picks till we hit again
And

11 more picks for the Chiefs!

Go Herm!

Thought we lost one with the trade?
No, We swapped 3rd's
We lost

a 5th rounder

You are right. But a 5th was worth it.

lost a 5th pick though.

However,

We get the last pick in the draft, 7th round pick #32 :D

Yea, that is correct.

Only 10 picks left…

We traded three picks (1/3/5) for two (1/3).

Easily the best draft I've ever seen...

Last year, I watched more ESPN than NFLN. This year, NFLN instead of ESPN. Positive development…

Love the new 10-minute per pick rule. Makes things so much more exciting, and there doesn’t seem to be as much ‘dead time’ as before. Usually, by the time they are done discussing the previous pick, and spend a couple of minutes on who the upcoming team might pick, the clock is out and the pick is up. Great stuff…

Lastly, the Chiefs have had an awesome draft so far…

I’m loving it right now…

Me too

I kept thinking, “Was I just not that into the draft last year?”

The new format, the Chiefs great draft so far, and frankly this auto refresh are going to make my month.

QUARTERBACK, QUARTERBACK

Great first round. They probably got the best player in the draft, plus one that was in their top five (or maybe top 2 or 3). Dorsey was a no brainer dumb luck pick. Kudos to Carl on getting Albert. He probably can’t afford to screw up on getting them signed in view of the Chiefs’ dire situation and their cap room.

NOW DRAFT THE BEST AVAILABLE QUARTERBACK IN ROUND TWO!!

Brohm?
gotta be

henne is over-rated. i don’t like a QB in the 2nd though with so much left to fill. especially at o-line

And Brohm was an early first coming into this season.
I like Brohm a lot more than Henne...

Although I would prefer a corner over both…

Me too.
Don't Like Henne At All

Don’t know why everyone’s so high on him, other than he played at Michigan. He never really impressed me with his performance and he had a lot of weapons to work with. I’d much rather have Brohm.

I think the Chiefs like Brohm

If available, with an owner who wants a franchise quarterback, I don’t see how they could resist.

Chris Johnson -WOW
erik ainge

i dont really like henne or brohm alot. erik ainge was a leader at tennessee and played all 4 years. plus, hes a big quarterback who can actually see over the O-line, not like Croyle, the little twerp.

I am an Ainge fan also in the mid rounds
any young

qb with little nfl experience would look weak behind last years’ o-line, so lets stop clamoring for a qb right now, ok?

I saw Ainge

play a few games in Knoxville at UT his freshman year and I said from the first time I saw him that I thought he could be a successful NFL QB.

I like him.

i do prefer ainge

to the other qbs because we wouldnt have to use a 2nd round pick on him

Maybe in a little while...

I hate the short-tall argument on QBs, it is about 13th on the list for me on who is better. Who cares.

I haven’t looked that far down, but I would wait until the 4th or 5th round before we take someone like Ainge.

I’m not against it, just not for awhile now.

And frankly, I would rather take Woodsen…

short tall

does matter for QBs. look at the best QBs in the NFL: Manning, Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger, all are huge. The big QB wins, while the little one gets dominated by big D-lineman.

with the 35th pick in the nfl draft

the kansas city chiefs select. manute bol!

I'd Be Okay With Ainge In The 3rd or 4th

Not in the 2nd, though…I think if Brohm’s available in the 2nd we need to consider him. Collins would be a good pick too, I think, but a bit of a reach that high. But we do need o-linemen and I think Collins can make it.

I agree with everyone on this thread who said Mayock’s better than Kiper, by the way…I tried tuning into ESPN’s coverage for a bit and thought they were terrible in comparison to the NFLN.

WOW!

Who had Chris Johnson in the first round?

He is crazy fast, sure, and VY needs some options, but still.

Wow.

Devin Thomas is still out there.

What about WR? If Desean Jackson is available at 35, do we take him as the speedster to match up with Bowe? Or do we take Devin Thomas if he is still there? Limas Sweed, who I am REALLY high on?

I'm not sure about that either

The Titans chose him for a reason and I’m racking my brain to figure it out and I can’t.

I guess LenDale White isn’t working out?

It's gotta be speed.

That is his only thing that he is amazing at.

agreed

he can fly

of course

we take desean jackson if he is there. im actually liking a WR at 35 more and more now. especially because there are so many quality ones still on the board right now. if they aren’t there, where do we look, O-line again? maybe a tackle?

anybody hear

what espn just said about first round receivers? not having impact in their first years? i liked our guy…

I think D-Bowe was pretty damn awesome.
Thank the dear lord

for D Bowe.

Last year would have been that much more terrible without him.

early doucet

was just mentioined as a potential steal. when do you think he will go? if we could get him later, he might work well in our scheme. as mentioned before, he and bowe both are out of LSU, so maybe coming to our scheme from LSU is easier?

what about

linebackers. are we looking to get anyone to pair with derrick johnson in the first day? or are we still focusing on the O-line?

RIght now, here are the positions I want in order:

1) Corner
2) O-Line
3) WR
4) QB

Jenkins/Cason/Flowers is still my favorite option at #35, with someone like Desean Jackson or someone my next option.

Check
why do we

have to take a corner? we are so weak at so many spots, shouldn’t we take the best player available when we’re up, as long as it isn’t somewhere where we are already set? it doesn’t make sense to reach for a corner or O-lineman if someone like jackson or the MSU receiver(forgot his name) are there.

No surprise...

There goes Jenkins.

My money is that we get Flowers at 35…

Look at the Falcons,

They traded Hall and need CBs. And 2 (now) of the first picks in the 2nd. This is the most treacherous of situations in this draft since the Falcons have the same needs.

there goes

another tackle, duane brown

we

should have taken otah instead of albert. he’s going to be a star.

its a bit early

for an otah vs. albert debate. otah is a project, we want rookies who can play right away

why do

they have to play right away? we aren’t going to seriously compete for several years, so Otah is what we should be looking for when we are rebuilding. We need players with huge upside, ti doesn’t matter that they won’t be ready for a year or two.

albert

arguably also has upside. right?

If we want Flowers, we have to trade up.

He is not making it past GB.

Are all of these rookies going to play?

Or for that matter, make the roster? For all the commotion we’re making about having 12 picks, alot of them are late. Our last pick, the perverbial Mr. Insignificant, will surely be on the practice squad. But are we going to have a million rookies on our squad like the Titans did a few years ago? I guess what I’m saying is, how many of these guys do you guys think are really going to help the Chiefs.

well

to answer that, a vast majority. thats the whole idea of this draft for us. have you been paying much attention in the last few months?

All Of The Rookies Will Probably Play

We’re that devoid of talent with the veterans.

I just cant see a trade happening since Seattle and 49rs

haven’t picked anyone yet.

Kentwaan Balmer DE he's still there. Do you want him?
or merling for that matter

but yeah if either of those are there, i’d be down. we’d have a scary d-line, we already do. wow it feels good to say that just days after allen left

I was just going to write that.
well

there goes that plan

Merling is still there, but GB will go CB (I think).
i want

a receiver or henne/brohm at 35. theres a good chance at least one of henne, brohm or jackson will still be there.

Cant just focus

on the defensive side of the ball. Its our offense that hasnt been productive.

Outside of DeSean Jackson, it is questionable value here.
the way we play football now

requires a fantastic defense. and we’re building that. and i’m not complaining

yep

i’m thinking protection and maybe another weapon (like a fast wideout) but that’s not as neccesary as defense when you’re playing hermball.

young qbs without protection

i want henne and brohm to supplement croyle. maybe we can also pick up carr too and have four young rattled qbs. competition is healthy.

haha

love it. why not throw in harrington? is he still avaliable. what about marinovich? can we bring him out of retirement?

if young qb's

without protection can’t develop, then why does everyone seem to think that a small, oft-injured player like brodie croyle still has a chance of developing? realistically, we need a qb who can step in once our O-line is developed.

youre right

if we’re going to draft a qb, lets not do it this year, but next year or the year after, when our o-line is developed. then we could have a young qb ready to succeed.

its worth

a shot.

The Jets trade?!!!
We still may be able to get Flowers
Damn your fast fingers, Lanier
I think ATL goes Flowers to compensate for Hall
didnt atlanta make a trade?

did they get rid of their second rounder? thatd be sweet

Only 2 2nd's now
or espn

is just being lame, which is not out of character as far as today goes

I just looked at Draft Tracker on CBS Sportsline, I may be completely wrong.
i think

atl is picking 6th in the second round, which puts us ahead

With GB out of the way, we may get Flowers
Giants take Flowers
Glad I was wrong
Me too. We still have hope.
S Kenny Phillips
No WR taken in first round, first time that has ever happened
ATL may go WR for value, and we may get Flowers.
if washington

doesnt take merling, do we take him?

I don't know how we pass him up.
that was

short lived

Atlanta does not have another pick before us
They have the pick before us from the trade of Hall to the Raiders
I believe Wash got that one
Maybe, I'm trying to keep up with all the trades on the major sites.
I took someones advice earlier and am watching on NFL.com

it posts the trades and who has them

You were right, Lanier
hope brian brohm

wasnt on the phone with us

im kinda

hoping hes there for us at 35

i will

openly sob if we waste the pick in the fashion

brohm

would be nice. however, now im kind of leaning towards getting a WR and i like getting ainge or woodsen later, and if we dont get them, then just let croyle get raped this year and get a QB next year.

I don't think we can afford to not take a CB.
does any site have the best still available left list?
on espn draft tracker

you can view by top rated by position still available

stl

just took donnie avery

Donnie Avery?
who wouldve though

he wouldve been the first WR to go?

devin thomas

to wsh

Well Flowers is there
if we take brohm

with this pick im going to throw up

What an awful time for a commercial break.
desean jackson baby!
or flowers

i guess thats cool too.

let me be the first to say

wow, what a great day one

I LOVE THIS DRAFT!
Did they draft him? NFLN at comm break.
espn just

called us a star of this draft. mel gave us an A+

Absolutely!

No other team has had as good of a day as the Red and Gold

Dude- This is the greatest day ever.
Even if they are all busts, this is the best we could have done.
Yeah.

If none of this works out in 5 years, there aren’t too many teams who wouldn’t have made the exact same decisions in the Chiefs position.

WE ROCK!
Mayock:

“Right now, I’m loving Kansas City.”

That has to be the biggest compliment of the entire draft
I just proposed to Herm.
Tom Bahali, you are vindicated!
Its JasonM now
HIm too. It still hurts we didn't get him.
gb just picked jordy nelson

there goes everyone’s homer dream

Wow

Jordy hurts….I liked him

Rats

Nelson is going to be a star

I secretly

really wanted Jordy Nelson. But I’m fine with it.

Wanted him in the non-sexual sense of course.

Is it wrong...

if some of us wanted him in both senses?

Ok

So now with the first day behind us, What does everyone want with the big 3 in the 3rd?

We could and need to trade back into the 2nd. We are not done yet.
Too much value still on the board.
Dont be so sure we arn't done just yet
herm on espn
He says we are still open for business!
Too Bad About Nelson

But I’d love it if Anthony Collins or Chilo Rachal fell to us…or if we traded into the second to get one of them.

The Chiefs are doing a great job so far.

we should

trade up to get desean jackson. he’d be a great return man, the next DHall, plus it’d give us a great receiving corps for erik ainge to throw too :)

how about

making dennis dixon mr. irrelevant this year?

i know

you’re kidding, but someone will actually take him

http://www.dennisdixon10.com/

i actually

wasnt kidding. i’d be definitely down with taking him in the 7th if he’s still up there

+1.

I want him in the seventh…

Honestly,

THIS IS THE BEST DRAFT I HAVE EVER SEEN. Especially in the most important draft for us.

This, is how you try to build a dynasty
I just can't say enough about this draft so far.

Laugh at us now, we will kill your AFC West in 2 years. As long as we sign them, and not piss these great players off.

anybody else feel like partying?
We could trade two later thirds and a late 5th to Detroit

for their second at #45

Let's trade up and grab Rachal!
gone
You've been around for a while

But welcome!

You think that Roy Schueneing (totally misspelled it) will be around?

lets just wait for the third

and maybe use our fifth to trade up and get someone if we like someone there.

With the first day over

I’m feeling very content. The last three and half hours were so angst filled that I’m finally coming down.

Fantastic first day by the Kansas City Chiefs. We’ll do it all again tomorrow as well.

Great day

Not a huge Flowers fan, but he fits the cover 2 very well

Fantastic draft, so far.
So far

we have drafted 2 ACC and 1 SEC players

Chris' man Tyrell Johnson gone
Brohm still on the board
I dont know about you guys

but with the way things have gone down these last two years, it would be a nice decent thing to do to let the Chiefs mgmt know we appreciate what they have done with the Draft picks. Just my opinion.

You know what sucks about this

In 3 years if the Chiefs are an awesome team and the players drafted this year are the core of that team, Carl Peterson will claim all credit for it.

And not re-sign them to fair market value.
Im ok with that
Im not ok with the not resigining
DeSean Jackson

Has he been picked yet?

No. We should trade up. WR and KR
So much for Laws
Who needs Laws

We have Glenn FREAKING Dorsey!

hellllll yeah,
1 dt in the draft
True, but I also wanted Laws in the 3rd. I am GREEDY.
Third draft thread posted

Head on over there.

Great day to be a Chiefs fan, huh?

Awesome

day Chris. Thanks again for this awesome forum!

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