Arrowhead Pride

And also

Despite everything, we’re two blocked FG’s from being the division winner…

not to mention one questionably blocked FG

KC Nate - January 2, 2012 reply

Ugh

I fully agree with you...

For all the obstacles that they had to hurdle to get to 7-9… they have a long ways to go though.

ravenhawk - January 1, 2012 reply

totally agree

WinnipegChiefs - January 1, 2012 reply

totally agree

HughSchloobie - January 1, 2012 reply

apparently my internet connection likes to play the mimic game

“totally agree” x2

HughSchloobie - January 1, 2012 reply

Agreed, think about how far we've come in a few years

To be able to sustain this many injuries to key starters and not go 2-14 or 4-12.

Now the Broncs can lose 4 in a row

they won’t hold up to a playoff caliber team.

Chiefs4Life - January 1, 2012 reply

Playing Pittsburgh will be be a laugh all the way

35-0 Pitt?

super8 - January 1, 2012 reply

Pitt on the road....

5-3 and 2 of the wins were in KC by 3 and in Indy by 4.

Pitt is NOT a good road team, and with Big Ben hobbled, I’m taking Denver plus the points for sure!

Charlie Batch >>>>>>>>>>>>>> teblow

Pit in the playoffs

Take it all day everyday

I have Denver winning the next game...possibly.

It’s a really good match-up for them.

MountainManMike - January 1, 2012 reply

At this point, I'm glad we're last place

Higher draft pick and schedule. Next year, this division is going to be really close between us, Chargers and Raiders. Any slight advantage could decide things, and our schedule may be the deciding factor.

super8 - January 1, 2012 reply

What a depressing victory...

hey, on the BRIGHT side ... we pick AHEAD of those three teams in the draft ;-)

so …

Romeo as HC
Wouldn’t mind Norv at OC
Need to re-sign Carr … like yesterday
Re-sign Bowe as well
David DeCastro first round choice, please and thank you
Jamaal, TonyM and Urc Burry ALL need to come back healthy and strong
Dear Oakland: we did OUR part, but once again you blew it! Don’t blame us …
Matt Stafford … how close is he to “Elite” status? damned near there in my book
Dear Eli: please do your very best Peyton impersonation and ring up 49 on the Cowgirls
Final Four: Packers, Saints, Lions, Ravens, Pats, Steelers … what? that’s six? right!

upamtn - January 1, 2012 reply

I agree on DeCastro as 1st Round pick...

as long as the three big-name OT are gone. DeCastro, based on his play this year, looks to be an absolute stud at guard. A DeCastro, Hudson, Asamoah interior should be solid for the next ten years.

Now to figure out the OT…..

MattL - January 1, 2012 reply

Id imagine a decent tackle will hit free agency

During the offseason. Otherwise there is always Mins :)

Scaryclouds - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

Jamaal, TonyM and Urc Burry ALL need to come back healthy and strong

Arenas too, depending how serious his injury was today.

Looking at the interior...

We will be getting bigger on the line if Hudson takes over at Center. Add in Decastro, or Nicks… and we have some beef that can push for the first down.

I want to beef up the center of our line, and get an athletic Tackle… not necessarily big.

ravenhawk - January 2, 2012 reply

schedule

Den, Oak, SD X2
NO, Atl, Car, TB
Pitt, Balt, Cincy, Cleveland
Buffalo Indy

joplin chiefs fan - January 1, 2012 reply

some tough games there, too

NO, Atl, Car if Newton gets help, Pitt, Balt, Cincy perhaps … it’s never easy in the Enn Eff Ell

upamtn - January 1, 2012 reply

And don't forget that we let Miami and Buffalo stomp the living shit out of us this year

Can't wait for revenge against Buffalo

Buffalo is better than you think.

Let’s not forget KC went 0-4 against the AFC East, and they weren’t even close… and even during the Bills seven game losing streak, they were putting up points.

neiowakcfan - January 2, 2012 reply

You don't know how good I think they are ;)

What matters is relative strength and I definitely think full-strength, not coming off the “take-it-slow” preseason approach, we can beat them.

Wait and See - January 2, 2012 reply

I'm in Charlotte

hoping the Chiefs play at Carolina so I can see my first Chiefs game in over 10 years

1kmilesfromkc - January 1, 2012 reply

Oh nos

Buffalo

Caleb Alan Rhoades - January 1, 2012 reply

Via wiki

Home games: Den,Oak,SD,Bal,Cin,Ind,Atl,Car. Away games: Den,Oak,SD,Cle,Pit,Buf,Saints,Bucs.

finally

a home game against indy. it’s been so many freakin games we’ve had to play at their dome… why the hell does the nfl set it like that. now after this we’ll go back to playin in indy for the next 4 years

KC Nate - January 2, 2012 reply

I believe that there is an alternating 4 year rule...

with the AFC and NFC south. I’ll have to double check this thing that I was reading from a few weeks ago as it might just be the AFC.

It was kinda strange.

ravenhawk - January 2, 2012 reply

If we had made 1 of those 2 blocked field goals last week, we'd be in the playoffs.

We didn’t even get to knock out Denver, so it really would have just been better for us to lose and secure top 10 in the draft. Now we’ll be top 15.

Hopefully the win will bring some momentum going into the offseason. Keep Romeo as coach and bring in a competent OC with a new QB. Orton isn’t the answer.

it's never better to lose ...

… if frogs had wins, ok?

upamtn - January 1, 2012 reply

TCU has quite a few wins.

'ribbit!

Better to lose?

I much rather prefer not keeping swept by Tebow.

being swept* sorry

Wouldn't have gotten Top 10 pick

We were 11 before this week. The two teams we were tied with that we could have jumped (Buffalo, Carolina) both lost, so likely, we would have stayed at 11. Now we are likely the #13 pick. I’ll get over it.

I count 10 teams with a worse record than KC,

and one team tied at 7-9 (Seattle), so I assume that means KC picks either 11 or 12?

MattL - January 1, 2012 reply

I don'

I don't believe in top 10 picks anyway

too expewnsive and hard to sign for the risk of a rookie player. I hope they trade down to 15-20, pick up a good value in the 1st, and pick up an extra later-round pick.

I hope we don't

cause at least in this 2012 draft you are sacrificing talent for numbers.

The Chiefs don’t need numbers right now but quality players.

Maybe 3 will get us back into the playoffs and a win too

With the new CBA

Top 10 picks shouldn’t be insanely overpaid anymore.

They aren't

Standard 4 mill per year contracts for most of them I think.

ChiefWarPaint - January 1, 2012 reply

think we are 12th pick

Chief1 - January 1, 2012 reply

Correct

Losing would have put us at 10.

F@#$ the Raiders. I want the Raiders to miss the playoffs for as long as I am on this green Earth. The Raider hate is strong with this one!

crashman6 - January 1, 2012 reply

this

This was my dream scenario. The Broncos backing in

WHAT???? Last place schedule will be brutal!

We play our rivals, who we split with this season, the AFC North, which is 3 playoff teams, the NFC South, with Cam, Brees, and Ryan, and the Colts with Manning back and the Bills who we never beat!!!!!!!(or is it dolphins)

I could be off

but my quick look at the standings tells me we will draft at number 11. I believe with the other results even had we lost we would have topped out at 9

Steve

I will take the 11 for a Win :)

totally agree

13.

We have a much tougher sched than the other 7-9 team. (Arizona) That means we pick after them.

We were 11 last week, so our big win only cost us 2 spots.

Arizona is 8-8

Arizona won today over Seattle.

So Seattle is 7-9 and Arizona is 8-8

Can we please

Not hear about trading Bowe any time soon?

Totally different offensive production once he left the field. The numbers are staggering.

The O went in the Dumpster, Gumpster

Rec'd for the rhyme time

Must be fifty ways to pay your reciever, right Steve?

Back up a Brinks Truck, Chuck…
Use the installment plan, Stan…

Ha

Better to pay the Receiver than lose the lover :)

The staff lost confidence in the rest of the guys.

But that doesn’t make Bowe a must have.

I lost confidence in the rest of the guys.

So you want an offense of guys the coaches have no confidence in

trentchiefsfan - January 1, 2012 reply

I want different (offensive) coaches.

as long as they are not offensive

Playcalling was very offensive today.

yes it was

Once Muir ran out of his cool sixteen scripted plays, it was over.

I think if he’s got a week, he can draw up ten to twenty winners…which is why we usually look good in the first and second quarters.

But once he’s off his cheat sheet and forced to get creative, well, THAT’S when he starts to fall back on that patented sweep with TJ, or his world-famous McCluster Draw.

i heard muir ran out of red bull that was the problem

he would of been good for 24 plays or a case of red bull

niageriannit1 - January 1, 2012 reply

Ok

If we trade Bowe it’ll be for 2 1’s or a 1 and 2, something like that. How would you not at least think about that?

To Denver

They wouldn’t use him, best of both worlds

I actually wouldn't want Bowe with Tebow.

Bowe’s a great “bailout” WR, and Tebow’s a guy who’s good at extending plays.

He’s TERRIBLE at finding the open man, but if he had a stud to lock onto like Bowe I think he’d look a lot better out there.

I would think about it, and seriously

But he was shaking Champ all day, and no one else could get open once he went out. I’m just saying that he makes a difference just being on the field. It’s not all about his catches it’s the other catches he makes possible. Not to mention his blocking, I think our running game suffered when he e=went down today as well.

Better to trade Dorsey, who doesn’t really fit in our D anyway.

Dorsey will get nowhere near the trade value Bowe will

And coppers usually in on running plays alot too. Are running game sucked cuz we have Muir calling plays

No way we'll get that

We’d be lucky to get two 2nds, and we’d still need to franchise him.

ChiefWarPaint - January 1, 2012 reply

That was my point

In order for him to be traded he’d have to be franchised first, which is gonna make teams have to give up alot if they want to grab em.

no sign up bowe long term

u don’t find guys like bowe, even though he drops some, he too good of a weapon not to have

niageriannit1 - January 1, 2012 reply

Hey, last is the AFC Wests Next Years First!

God I love giving MHR a taste of their own medicine

No JC, no Berry, no ToMo, went threw 3 QBs and 1 HC and an 80 yr old OC. The other teams are their record WITH all their top weapons. I’ll take that good feeling going into the offseason

There's a giant circle jerk going on over there right now.

I love seeing the “Enjoy your team being on vacation next week!” comments. Let them feel good about it. It’ll last for a week until the Steelers start playing playoff football. 8-8 vs 12-4? Beechez please.

Oh I already been called classless

But fuck that, they live over here talking that bullshit. What goes around comes right back to MHR! And we came within 4 to the Steelers with PALKO. They wont even get to double digits it’ll be an all out blowout

Well, the Steelers are worse than their record.

They got a pretty cake schedule playing the NFC West and AFC South. Of those 8 games, they lost to San Fran and Houston. (the only teams from those divisions that are in the playoffs)

If the spread is 7 or more, I’m taking Denver and the points.

No way

The Steelers in the playoffs are a different breed of beasts. It wont even be close

Steelers' run game might be terrible.

Redman can ball

Plus they pass a shit load anyway and Denver can’t cover

They even screw up when they win!

WHO CARES!! If they really felt they needed to play for something they should have showed up last fuckin week! That win cost us the 8th pick in the draft and now we are picking 12th!!

Lol I love seeing wins more

Sorry bout that

NJChieffan16 - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

And what better player would we have gotten at 8?

Barkley? Nope.
Luck? Nope.
….

The o-lineman of our dreams will still be there. Or the ILB. Or S. Or another bad-ass wideout…although I’m stuck on us going O-line, personally. DeCastro would be a hell of a pickup for this team.

I need to look into DeCastro more

Seems to be an early favorite pick.

That's also not correct. We would have been 10th on Strength of Schedule tiebreaker.

Chiefs draft #11?

I will take it.. Is it true? Does any one know?
Good win by the Chiefs today. With out 1/2 our team…

Atomic Punx - January 1, 2012 reply

I think it's that or 12. You can't rely on the NFL league standings.

12.

We were 11 before last week. Tied with Buffalo and Carolina.

They both lost and I don’t think their SoS was affected enough to get above ours, so we would have stayed at 11 even with a loss.

We are actually tied for the 11 spot with 7-9 Arizona, but again, their SoS was worse than ours so we get the 12 spot.

So overall, winning only lost us 1 spot in the draft, not a Top 10 pick like some whiners were bemoaning.

Arizona won today

They’re 8-8, not 7-9.

Skip Bayless already making apologies for Tebow. Lol.

Brady_Rendzia - January 1, 2012 reply

NEW QB?

HOW DOES MATT FLYNN SOUND?

JustaArrowheadDude - January 1, 2012 via Android app reply

Cassel scenario all over again.

hell yea

We need a OL first!!

HELL yeah!

a good O line means a better running game AND a bnetter passing game

Sorta...

But Flynn has the arm strength that Cassel lacks.

I dunno. When Matt sets his feet, his arm strength is above average--he can get it done.

His passes are just terribly placed. When his feet aren’t set? Ye gawds, his arm is…well…Palkolicious.

The knock on Flynn coming out of college was his lack of PT in a pro-style offense, and his weak arm. A boffo game with the kind of weapons GB has? Against a Lions D that evidently was scared of playing like men?

Not sold on Flynn yet, he looks like more of what we have right now.

We don't have the talent that GB has to make him look that good.

One game!!!

And people start drinking Koolaid

Huh?

just Drinking

It's two games, actually.

Flynn nearly beat the Patriots last year in his only start, I believe after Rodgers concussion against Detroit. Dude looks way better than Cassel, but is still a back-up. A free agent back-up, who increased his value considerably, and might be looking for a place to start. Again, just like Cassel.

neiowakcfan - January 2, 2012 reply

Exactly Falcon, exactly.

We officially go into the off season with a QB controversy!!

My vote ORTON

Atomic Punx - January 1, 2012 reply

I'm not a fan of Orton anymore. But I don't think Cassel is the answer either.

We’re in trouble.

Rather have Orton than Cassel, but rather have a good Qb than either.

saskwatch - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

Agreed.

Give Orton an offseason with our weapons

Along w new C,RT, LG I think we’re set. Oh, and an actual OC worth a damn

Yeah.... we don't need MUCH... HAHA

Ha well if you think about it

It aint TOO TOO bad. OL can be had in FA and draft. I’m all about just drafting OL, DT and LB. And we’ll have a new OC.

+111111111111111111111111111111111111111

Who do you take?

Palko or Tebow?

tebow.

be cee - January 1, 2012 reply

for HC

This just explains how god awful Palko was....

At QB or just as a player.

None of the above for QB, would take Tebow and convert to H Back or LB

As your only choice for a future franchise QB

Then Tebow

Say whatever he’s a winner

Except when he loses.

Such as the last three games. Soon to be four straight.

Can I take a Bullet instead?

so if you take a test

and your options are true, or false, do you write none of the above? your choices are one or the other, not make up your own.

be cee - January 1, 2012 reply

We officially go into the off season with a -QB- HC controversy!!

Anyone else excited for Training Camp?

I live in St. Joseph, about 3 minutes from the complex. Its the highlight of my summer.

The Girls are that bad up there?

In St. Joe? YES.

Just wondering, not trying to troll fellow Chiefs fans

but is there, in your opinions, a more negative fanbase than KC?

Bonofied - January 1, 2012 reply

Cleveland maybe?

Sam D - January 1, 2012 reply

all of the others

I don't think we are a negative fanbase, think it was just a rough year

and we have a lot of holes on this team. The defense is solid but needs a NT really bad. The offense has some playmakers but needs upgrades at OLine and QB. We also need depth all over.

Fozzyboyd - January 1, 2012 reply

need another pass rusher

Yeah, seems like Houston and Bailey may be able to help with that

Plus, I think a legitimate NT can help with that

Fozzyboyd - January 1, 2012 reply

Great question

I don’t believe so. The Cleveland guess is a good one though.

Ha Cleveland fans become Chiefs fans for the Upgrade

Realism only sounds like Negativity.

Well.

Considering people around here were wanting to suck for Luck after the first two games of the season…..

This fanbase

Is insanely negative. We literally have one bad preseason possession and people are screaming for players to be released and coaches to be gone. It’s amazing.

Flowers24 - January 1, 2012 reply

Yep.

Though I have no idea if it’s better or worse than other NFL blogs.

joplin chiefs fan - January 1, 2012 reply

Just jaded

Haven’t won a playoff game in 20 years.

I think this might be right

it’s been a long 20 years. I know I’m not immune to the negative feelings sometimes.

Bonofied - January 1, 2012 reply

We Can Be

There are a few teams in the NFL whose fans deserve to be as pessimistic as they want. The Browns, Chiefs, and Lions. None of these teams have been to, much less won, a Super Bowl since before 1971. The only other teams to not have a Super Bowl appearance are expansion teams, which are still relatively young. Every other team in the NFL has reached the big show. We’ve been abused as fans for decades now, so please excuse us if we get a little snippy. It’s been a rough 40 years.

ctconard - January 2, 2012 reply

Everyone in our division went 3-3 in the division

I have a feeling this could be a much tougher division in the next few years.

Fozzyboyd - January 1, 2012 reply

Broncos:

First in the AFC West and first team out of the playoffs.

ArrowSkull - January 1, 2012 reply

Only if their game is first.

Reports in that Spags is out in StL

not a big surprise

LINK?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7411847/source-st-louis-rams-fire-coach-steve-spagnuolo-gm-billy-devaney

So... still just an expectation... not a confirmed firing.

Yepper

Its ESPN so take it with a grain of salt.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/01/report-rams-will-fire-spagnuolo-and-devaney/

This one too, but all speculation

Bilk - January 1, 2012 reply

Best case scenario happened if you ask me.

Raiders wasted two premium picks on nothing. Denver is stuck with Tebow for the near future, which should set the team back about 5 years and Norv and all his aging talent mightve bought themselves another year. Win win win.

agree completely. this was imo the best case scenario going into today for all the reasons you listed

SDChief - January 1, 2012 reply

disagree... a loss might have given us a higher draft pick.

Otherwise the rest is true.

Moving up one or two spots isn't really going to make that much of a difference considering where we're picking.

Not considering the aformentioned damage to the division.

Idahochief - January 1, 2012 reply

BEST case scenario

Would’ve involved OAK going to the playoffs and winning a game.

Because then the 2nd rounder they sent to CIN turns into a first rounder.

I believe they would have to win two games...

the second conditional 1st round pick requires them making the conference championship game.

neiowakcfan - January 2, 2012 reply

Oh, well then nevermind

It wouldn’t be worth it to have Raiders fans insufferable over getting to the conference championship…

FAITH HILL TIME!

Good call.

Idahochief - January 1, 2012 reply

BENNY HILL TIME!

LINK? LOL

Jack Benny Time!

JACK DANIELS TIME!

Opening Line

first one out is Pitt -7.5

No Mendenhall says Tomlin. This is actually a decent line for Bronco backers but it should move a bunch during the week.

New Orleans -9 over Detroit

Houston -3

Also

lots of really cool tweets from Chiefs players flooding Twitter. Nice to see them giving thanks to the fans and their teammates. Check it out if you can. Too many to fanshot.

My hope at this point is Fisher for HC.

Rumor has it...

Fisher was @ the Buc’s hotel today..

Atomic Punx - January 1, 2012 reply

Not a rumor.

He was there to watch his son in a bowl game or something.

Draft RG3!!

RG3 RG3 RG3 RG3 RG3 RG3…
We won but I still dont think orton is the answer
Cassel sucks and stanzi is not nfl ready!

albuquerquechiefsfan - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

The only way we do this is trade up 7 picks.

Pioli won’t do it. We need to fix other problems first… like the OL. For like the fifth year in a row.

Our 1st and 3rd this year and first and 3rd next year, plus Cassel and Orton

For a spot to draft RG3

So we draft who? I know its early and combine tends to mix things up a bit but

If it were my decision, I would do everything possible to trade up and draft RG3.

I can see us drafting an Olineman( Riley Reiff -Iowa/ Jonathan Martin-STanford/ David Decastro – Stanford) or Trent Richardson. Otherwise we trade back for more picks, but still fill those positions.

They can build a team with FA too, but they really haven’t shown a history of that

My early vote goes to Martin.

Reiff or side of the Stanford beef would work for me.

DeCastro in particular would be a fine choice…

barring a crazy trade or things getting shaken up during the combine

I think the chances are high that we draft one of the guys i mentioned

Yep, I agree

Agreed

Agreed but Pioli wanting to trade back seems much more likely to me

I'd love RGIII, maybe even over Luck. Looks like Flynn might be a good possibility too.

chill out on flynn

even Palko would have looked good in Flynns spot out there

Flynn = a less athletic Cassel

Cassel made his bones throwing to Randy Moss, Wes Welker for a season. Flynn has made his throwing to Nelson, Finley etc.

No thanks, I’ll stick with our caretakers we currently have. Let’s draft the young passer of the future, if we can.

Flynn has a better arm than Cassel

Felt I should mention that if you’re comparing the two.

ChiefWarPaint - January 1, 2012 reply

To you Flynn haters...

aaaaaaaaaaghk!

You’re wrong. The only thing stopping this guy from starting in the NFL is some dude named Rodgers. And btw, Cassel didn’t work out. Get over it.

Orton has proven that argument quite substantially. Even on today’s crappy passing day for Orton, he still finished with 180 yards… only 10 yards shy of Cassel’s average for the season.

And whoever wrote that post about Flynn being less athletic than Cassel: BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Based on WHAT research?

Personally, I like what Orton brings to the table. With that being said, bring in Flynn and let’s see who can lead the team. Think about it, half of Flynn’s old LSU teammates are already here.

Hi, J_r0kk. I'm the one who aksed about Flynn, athleticism, Cassel, etc.

Guess we need to be introduced. I checked out your profile, and see you hail from Cajun country. That explains the Flynn love; you’d actually know more about him than I would then.

1) I’m not a Flynn hater. If the man’s destined to be a star—and he could be, remember, Len Dawson was a backup before arriving in KC—he will be and someone will give him the chance.
2) I’m not wowed by a player putting up Tecmo stats with a loaded offense. Flynn may be a starter in waiting, but his numbers today came from an insanely good opportunity against an opponent who couldn’t stop Flynn OR Flynn’s teammates. So did Cassel’s big money year in NE…he just had another fourteen games to show it in that one year. Both men showed their skill in loaded offenses as backups to the league’s best passer (at that time). That’s all I was saying.
3) Don’t misread me, I’m over Cassel. I got over Cassel in training camp when I saw ZERO improvement. My acceptance of Cassel’s mediocrity, in fact, is possibly biasing me against Matt Flynn.
4) The athleticism comment comes from the Athlon Pro Sports 2007 Draft scouting report (yes, I still have the magazine). I cannot web-link it but the mag sits in my spare bedroom.
5) I too dig Orton as a skilled placeholder QB…if hell freezes and he becomes more, I’m all for it. But I want to see this team snag a real, young passer to groom, preferably in the draft.

Give me some good info on Flynn…strengths? Weaknesses? And out of curiosity, is LSU’s passer worth a rookie FA contract or not?

Sup Sal...

I’ll answer your questions as you have them numbered. (Love the name btw. I was a huge Saleaumua fan from back in the day).

1) The guy has always played behind superstar QBs. At LSU he had to watch JaMarcus Russell lead the team until he was drafted by the Raiders. Although “doughboy” Russell was a complete bust in the pros, he was a force to be reckoned with in college. In his first full year as a starting QB at the college level, he led LSU to the national championship. Even in college, without much seasoning, the guy was a winner.

Then, of course, in the pros he follows another superstar in Aaron Rodgers. IMO though, I think it’s the best thing that could have ever happened to Flynn. For four years he’s been able to sit behind Rodgers and study the defense as Rodgers sees it. Today was his day to show everyone what he’s made of.

2) I understand what you’re saying about the Madden stats. Looking back though, I’m really not that impressed with the stats Cassel put up in his year with NE. They weren’t much better than Tyler Thigpens even though he was surrounded with all that talent (he only averaged 230 yds/game passing and 89.4 QB rating vs. Thigpen’s 186 yds/game passing and 76.0 QB rating). TD:INT were almost even between the two QBs that season. I think they thought they had something special in Cassel, but they were wrong.

3) You and me both. I think Cassel has regressed since the 2010 season. More often than not, Cassel has gone for his first option in passing situations (whether his receivers are locked up like Fort Knox or not) and he has repeatedly failed to work his progressions in the routes being run. He is the prototypical “primary receiver or dump off” option QB. There is no middle ground with him. I have seen him pass on so many wide open receivers this year because he simply misread the development of the patterns being run. It’s actually quite a shame. I would have thought a $63 million investment would have paid better dividends. Cassel has proven to be a serviceable back up.

4) Here’s a scouting report I dug up from his combine:
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles?id=367#tabs:tab-analysis
Give it a read and you will get a better understanding of this guy.

5) I agree with the “draft and develop a QB” mentality. But c’mon. We’re talking about the Chiefs. We haven’t done that since… since… since… hahahahahaha. Either way, I look at it like this: If you can’t get Luck, you’re throwing darts in the dark. Just wait until your guy becomes available. Don’t try to force it.

As far as your last question, I would imagine you’re talking about Jarett Lee? I like the kid and I believe he’s a transfer from Harvard so he’s obviously got some intellegence. After college he will probably be a very good insurance salesman.

I hope this insight helped a little.

Not Jarrett, the other one. Jefferson?

Read a report talking up his measurables, wondered about his intellect. Lee is all intellect and no measurables.

I appreciate the run-over—and the scouting report on Flynn. It actually HAS changed my mind somewhat…you know what, he has potential. His physical skills sound better than I’d first understood.

If we were hiring the coach from the Packers, Philbin, I could see a run for Flynn. But he’s not a Parcells/Belichick “system guy,” which leads me to suspect we’d pass over him for Cassel (again) or Orton (again). Especially since, like you said, we don’t exactly draft our passers in KC.

Jordan Jefferson?

OH

PLEASE

GOD

NO!

LOL...allrighty. That's all I needed to know.

...that could be, WP. The knock I keep seeing/saw back in '07 was his arm.

And we know Cassel ain’t Jeff George…

Chiefs will be picking 11 or 12.

The only 7-9 teams are the Chiefs and the Seahawks. For those saying Arizona, you’re wrong. They won today and are now 8-8.

I just read that KC and Seattle

will flip a coin for draft position. Evidently, they tied on all of the tiebreakers.

MattL - January 1, 2012 reply

Worst case......Orton over Cassel any day.

Happy New Year AP!

Happy New Year LC!

1-0 in 2012!

Undefeated!

And I bet we don’t lose for months!

Haley’s first year ends with a victory over the Broncos in Denver.

Haley’s last season, even if he wasn’t here for it, ends with a victory over the Broncos in Denver.

It was funny. I think it was our first time on offense and right away, Richardson got

called for procedure. It’s almost automatic every game.

And people made a big deal over Gaither's false start.

It's like he has no "head" for what's going on out there. None.

Anyone see him fall on his butt without getting touched?

MountainManMike - January 2, 2012 reply

I think this year doesn't count because of the lockout.

It’s just like the season finale of The League. This year was tainted. The Chiefs remain division champions one more year!

is anyone else as

Excited as I am to watch this defense play next year with berry back. I mean if it wasn’t for arenas fumbling that punt we probably shut them out today

banshee_01 - January 1, 2012 reply

Love the addition of the salsa music when Cruz scores a TD.

ArrowSpread - January 1, 2012 reply

that is excellent

husker_doc - January 1, 2012 reply

Time to move on

I think Kyle Orton has shown the last two weeks that he is not the answer at QB in KC. Since Stanzi apparently isn’t good enough to play then it must be time to draft a QB.

maddirishman - January 1, 2012 reply

No sane Chiefs fan sees Orton as "the answer."

But he is a much better caretaker QB than Cassel is, that’s for sure. And you and I can bet money we don’t have all night long, but you KNOW Pioli isn’t going to sacrifice the picks we’d need to spend to get Griffin.

I do think we’ll draft someone, just not sure who yet…

I'd still bring Orton back

Try to trade Cassel and if no one bites, keep him through camp. Never know when a team will lose a QB or two in preseason and get desperate. After that, keep whichever three QB’s look the best.

so your answer is starting over ?

Willie Beamon - January 1, 2012 reply

The highlights of the 1st day of 2012

1.Chiefs beating Donkeys
2.Teblow getting picked off on the last play
3. Watching pissed Gayder fans leaving Oakland Coliseum

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