The Kansas City Chiefs last week signed six of their practice squad players to reserve/future contracts and on Tuesday signed G Darryl Harris.
Harris was on the Chiefs practice squad last season (and the year before that). He had quite a bit of time with the team in training camp a couple years ago when Brian Waters was down but hasn't seen any regular season time.
It'll be interesting to see what happens to Harris, and the guards specifically.
The Chiefs have Ryan Lilja and Jon Asamoah at guard while Rodney Hudson backed up last year. Hudson could be moving on to replace Casey Wiegmann as the center of the future so there could be a depth spot open on the interior offensive line.
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Cool, got Hudson and Harris who can both play either guard or center.
Should give Pioli a lot of flexibility in the draft.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
true, but Harris isn't what one would call an overly exciting signing ... not upset with it, of course
upamtn - January 10, 2012
It will be interesting to see if he even survives once the Chiefs bring in a new OL guy...
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
What you apparently dont realize is that the chiefs are one Darryl Harris away from a championship.
Harris > Mims. (Oh yea i went there!!!!)
nateforchiefs - January 10, 2012 via mobile
You, sir, are a brave soul.
I will mourn your death.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
so, the fanshot on the Broncos "illegal formation"
I think someone needs a VERY large cheese wheel to go with the whine
upamtn - January 10, 2012
He's not the world's worst player either, just never seems to be healthy enough to get a shot at a starting job.
Why not try him at LG this spring and summer? He’s athletic and strong, but has never settled on one line position….
If he washes out he washes out, not a huge thing.
go_saleaumua - January 10, 2012
is Lilja a free agent?
I wouldn’t be surprised if they let him go and let Hudson stay at OG, where he played well. But that means Chiefs need to drafty an OT and a C. Good centers can usually be got later in the draft.
Nicoloco - January 10, 2012
Nah, they could still draft/sign a guard. If Hudson got hurt, Harris moves over and the backup plays guard.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
with the very strong possibility of Weigs retiring (hopefully), i can more easily see them retaining Lilja,
have Hudson start @ C and keep Harris as depth….this gives them a bit more flexibility in the draft.
reedeasy - January 10, 2012 via Android app
I don't think so, but I'm not positive ...
Wiegs most likely retires, and I believe Hudson would be better at C position than OG (he’s a bit “light” for OG) … I’d love to see the Chiefs get David DeCastro (OG) in the first round and have the interior of the OLine locked down for years with DeCastro-Hudson-Asamoah
upamtn - January 10, 2012
that would be "wicked retahded"
as they say out east…
reedeasy - January 10, 2012 via Android app
I would be fine with that but I could see Lilja being servicable for another year or two
and my bigger worry is Right Tackle. So it will depend on the T/G available at 11. You can also get pretty good guards with a 2nd or 3rd. Martin with 1st, best guard with 2nd. OLine is set. Although if we can sign one of the good free agents out there that would make things so much nicer.
Fozzyboyd - January 10, 2012
You can also get pretty good right tackles with a 2nd or 3rd.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
draft Martin from Stanford in the first round
and then pick up Carl Nicks in free agency. He is a premiere guard in the NFL and still young. The Saints may be able to resign him, but i think with Brees and other being free agents that they may let him go. With those two on the line along with asamoah, albert and hudson we should be solid for years to come.
KC_Chiefer - January 10, 2012
We could also get a pretty good right tackle in the 2nd or 3rd.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
True
But with having one of the elite running backs in the game, and a lot of QB’s who aren’t very agile i think the Oline is a position group that we can’t afford to have anything but the best. a pretty good right tackle will only get you so far in this league unless you have a mobile QB. Just my opinion though. thats why i think we have to go tackle in the first round, or go after someone in free agency.
KC_Chiefer - January 10, 2012
Barry Richardson blocked for Charles during his 6.4 ypc year.
Sure, a better right tackle would almost certainly produce even better results. But we’re not in an emergency situation right now, so I’d rather use that first rounder for something besides a luxury right tackle. Trade down if nothing else.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
Someone please make him stop.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
Too much draft hijack?
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
too much logic ;-)
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Sorry, I'll tone it down.
I already made a math mistake this morning, and I was trying to make up for that.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
see? cheap TVs = cheap Calculators
in the end it always ends up costing you
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Yeah! Yeah, that's it, it was my calculator's fault. Damn machines....
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
Too much
acceptance of having the worst RT in the NFL on our team. Not saying we should spend a 1st on one, but it’s certainly an emergency situation.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
and what metrics were used to determine this "worst RT in the NFL" ranking that you cite?
source?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
I saw something
Pro Football, or Outsiders or something that had BR as the worst Tackle in the NFL.
AZDiamond75 - January 10, 2012
This ^^^^^
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
If Richardson isn't the worst starting right tackle in the NFL, that just means that there are some other REALLY shitty right tackles out there.
It doesn’t mean that Richardson isn’t terrible. I don’t want to spend a 1st on RT, but I definitely wouldn’t mind spending a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th on it.
I don’t care if the solution comes in free agency, the draft, a trade, or the in-house development of somebody like Mims (a longshot, to say the least). Richardson should not, under any circumstances, be our starting right tackle next year.
MtHammer - January 10, 2012
This ^^^^^
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
Pro Football Focus
MNchiefsfan - January 10, 2012
Then we pretty much agree.
We need competition at tackle, but not enough to panic away a first round pick.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
We agree?
Let me rethink my position…
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
That would be wise.
So we agree again……
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
D'oh!
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
This is true
But in that year he was playing at a much higher level than he was this year. He may have been playing though some injuries we didn’t know about this year, but he regressed quite a bit. So if 2010 was the best we were going to see out of him then i think a new right tackle is more than a luxury, its a must.
KC_Chiefer - January 10, 2012
Tackle is a luxury?
Did you watch B-Rich play this year? Or last year? Or through his career here? The man is like a matador, isn’t going to stop anything but will let them all run right on by.
Even his so called “good year” was subpar for most tackles. He was ranked by many to be the worst or bottom 3 in starting tackles this year.
Fozzyboyd - January 10, 2012
No, FIRST ROUND right tackle is a luxury.
No reason to spend a first rounder on somebody who doesn’t need to be as good as Albert. Trade down and get TWO right tackles. Or a right tackle and a guard, or a right tackle and a linebacker……
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
and the premiere OT is Kalil, and he's gone WAY early anyway
upamtn - January 10, 2012
either way, O line should be given top priority as far as player aquisition goes.
Martin, DeCastro, Nicks…all upgrades, but RT is the most glaring need….C right after that. I like Hudson in that case.
reedeasy - January 10, 2012 via Android app
Absolutely
We must do something at right tackle, and i think we will, i think we will draft a tackle with our first pick. Either way i think Pioli knows that he needs to produce, and produce quickly. Which leads me to believe he will be a bit looser with his wallet when free agency comes around. Hopefully he will go after one premier player for the Oline.
KC_Chiefer - January 10, 2012
I disagree. I think the middle needs to be solidified first.
I am definitely worried about tackle depth. If Albert goes down, we’re screwed. But depth and guards and right tackles shouldn’t require first round picks.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
Think SD will let Gaither go?
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
Well, he probably won't be the starter next year. So it depends
on if they can sign him for backup or right tackle. If he got enough good press, some team like the Falcons or Rams might offer him a left tackle spot.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
I triple this thought
upamtn - January 10, 2012
well, the OLine in general ... I agree with Brsrkr (who agrees with me) that interior is a crucial spot
upamtn - January 10, 2012
It's a shortest path thing.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
should be a small o there on the right...
ExtraMetal - January 10, 2012
The QB's lunch?
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
Richardson.
or maybe an x since he works for them so often.
ExtraMetal - January 10, 2012
Chiefer, doubt the Aints let Nicks walk away ...
and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Drew Brees pull off a Manning and agree to a few million less to make sure he keeps his offense intact
(and since the guy is in line for a few bazillion, what’s a coupla million or so less here or there?)
upamtn - January 10, 2012
You make a good point
I absolutely see Brees doing something like that to keep his offense intact and even more so to keep his line intact. But i still think its hard to believe that they will pay that much money on two guards. Maybe they will, but thats a lot of money going into those two players.
KC_Chiefer - January 10, 2012
oh yeah, lotta money for sure
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Typically Tackles are in more demand than guards though.
So the good tackles tend to go fast, while guards can usually be found later in a draft. A good tackle can also help hide a bad guard to an extent. yes, our guards pull and zone block but they also don’t have to handle speed rushers from the outside. I would be fine going into next year with Lilja, Hudson, and Asamoah but I am not comfortable with B-Rich as a starter. RT is a much more pressing need than guard right now.
Fozzyboyd - January 10, 2012
I can't really argue with that. But we just disagree on Lilja.
I think he’s about at the end, and we need a quality backup for him if not a replacement. The middle of the line is more important than the edges, even if the tackles are usually more skilled.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
I really think we will go after interior linemen in free agency
Like i said above Pioli knows that he needs to start producing here, so i think he will be a little looser and spend some of that cap room. Hopefully going after one linemen. then going after a tackle in the draft
KC_Chiefer - January 10, 2012
That would be nice. It's just that in my football fantasies, I don't count on free agency.
It’s such a crap shoot. You can control who you go after in the draft much better. I mean, the guard we all want to target in FA is Nicks, but we’ve only got a 1/32 chance of getting him. The draft has several good guards, and we can choose where and if we draft them.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
I think we will draft a guard
I just don’t think it will be one of their top priorities, i think they are going to look at a tackle first because in my opinion we could go another year with Lilja if we had to, but i don’t think the fans or organization wants to see another year with B Rich. plus you can always draft a guard in the 3rd or 4th round.
KC_Chiefer - January 10, 2012
and Pioli always does what the fans want and think should be done
right?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
No, not at all
But i do think he realizes that it is a position that needs and upgrade immediately, and is more of a need than replacing Lilja.
KC_Chiefer - January 10, 2012
Lilja is only 30.
He’ll be serviceable at least another year. I think they’ll draft a LGOTF, ala Asamoah and Hudson. Interior could be all kinds of studly a couple years from now.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
"Serviceable" depends a lot on scheme and physique.
If his body is 100% and we stick with a (primarily) zone scheme, he’s adequate + for 2012. If we go with more of a man, or a power zone scheme…he’d better learn to snap the ball or seek employment elsewhere.
Not trying to dog on Lilja, he had an up-and-down ‘11 but he was our best lineman two years’ back. But I just dunno if we’re married to the zone system still, or not. And with a lineman who is 288, 290 pounds (or whatever), system means a lot in today’s NFL.
go_saleaumua - January 10, 2012
Straight up replacing Lilja is a bit of a luxury for this team right now
If they could bring in a sure thing FA to replace him, then sure…go for it. Chances are though, they’ll get a guard in the 3rd round who should back him up for a season and ideally be ready the following year as a starter.
There is no reason Barry Richardson should be starting on this team next year though. He needs to be replaced immediately by a FA or relatively high draft pick.
cheapham - January 10, 2012
I think there are a couple pretty good Guard FA's this year
SD and NO both have really good guards that will be FA.
If Richturdson is starting for us next year, I will Tonya Harding the guy.
Fozzyboyd - January 10, 2012
If we go to a man-blocking scheme, how would you feel about him lining up at guard?
He gets toasted on the outside, but he could use his athleticism AND his power more effectively…
go_saleaumua - January 10, 2012
Fozzy, I hear ya, but I'd rather have KILLER GOOD than "serviceable" ... not just QB protection but power blocking in the Red Zone ... ergo, get the best while the best is there to be had
upamtn - January 10, 2012
You sound like me when I was shopping for a TV.
I wanted the KILLER GOOD big screen, and I got it. Then my brother got a cheapo model. Crappy thing is that the game looked just about as good on his cheapo TV, and he had money left for a down payment on a Piper Cub. /jealous now
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
for now, maybe ... but how long will his last, a year or two? how long will YOURS last? 5 yrs? 10 yrs?
how much is the ACTUAL cost in the end? see what I mean?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
I don't think I spent my money on reliability....
Are we still talking about football? Don’t draft a RB in the first, they break too easy.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
precisely
they may look great at first, but …
upamtn - January 10, 2012
The kid from Utah State has huge value, and if we keep some kind of zone scheme he'll be a real find.
One cut and he pushes upfield, quick, strong…
go_saleaumua - January 10, 2012
Turbin?
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
Think so, yeah.
TJ’s height but he actually runs with some power.
go_saleaumua - January 10, 2012
Actually...
The cheaper HDTV is the way to go with prices being what they are. If picture quality is at or near the same and the constant improvements in all the extras a $400 – $500 HDTV that needs to be replaced in two to three years will run you around $300 – $400 when you do replace it. Or you could go with the high end $1500 – $2000 HDTV that you will need to replace in five to six years for close to the same price the next time around.
And seeing as how there are only five or six panel makers for all the various TV manufacturers the chances that the panel on the cheapo HDTV is the same as on the high end HDTV are pretty good.
Zif - January 10, 2012
Great. Where the hell were you six months ago?
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
Right here...
But I was talkiing football then, not electronics. Another tip… Read Tom’s hardware reviews. There was a review of HDMI cables. The recommendation? Buy cheap if you are not planning on moving your TV around a lot. HDMI cables are digital so they either work, or they don’t. There is no improved quality of picture from a high cost HDMI cable.
Zif - January 10, 2012
Tell that to the suckers
giving $100 to Monster for a short HDMI cable.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
Heh, not even I am that suckerish.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
I think I paid about $4 on Amazon for my 6' cables.
Paid about $10 for a 25’ cable, but haven’t tried it yet (it gets good customer reviews, though).
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
For some reason
I tend to go with Newegg. Got a 6’ HDMI cable for about $3.50 the first time for my set top box, and the next time I ordered a cable for my Roku2 the cheapest they had was $4.50.
Zif - January 10, 2012
I like Newegg
but Amazon usually beats them on regular prices. Newegg has some great sales, though.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
Why not take two tackles in this years draft?
I’m not bashing on Albert. I think he is doing a good job. After hearing what Muir said about him being good, but he will never make it to Canton, as a tackle, makes me want to see us draft Reiff in Rd 1. I say draft a tackle that will make it to there. Move Albert over to LG where I think he will excel. He will know what the LT faces and can help out a rookie. Then look to get RT in the draft or FA. I haven’t been too impressed with Lilga this year.
flip8744 - January 10, 2012
I would be surprised if Pioli did NOT double down on O line in this draft.
But stop right there with the Albert is a guard talk. No way any rookie moves him out of left tackle, much less Reiff. And you can’t count on drafting a HoF’er.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
Agree with both
No rookie is going to supplant Albert immediately at LT, but I think they should draft a high-upside LT, someone who they think has the potential to be an upgrade – more like a value pick in 2nd or 3rd rather than using the 1st.
If all goes well, after a year of seasoning, you’d have a very good LT, a great LG. If not, hopefully the new tackle can be a good fit at RT. And failing that you’d have a backup tackle for depth.
SagehenMacGyver47 - January 10, 2012
Yep, Pioli needs to do his talent-genius thing.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
I have often wondered what they will do with Hudson now
He could have played Center last year if Casey hadn’t returned, but he was possible the best guard ever at Florida State. Since he didn’t have to play center because Weigmann didn’t retire, are there centers we should look at in THIS draft and have Hudson, Rookie, Asamoah in the middle?
PVChiefsfan - January 10, 2012
If Konz doesn't come out early...no, none that'd be better.
Daryl Harris might be our underrated C or LG then…only because he’s more experienced in our system, really.
We could throw money at someone else’s C in free agency perhaps.
go_saleaumua - January 10, 2012
This is a great signing......
He has been injury prone. The time I have seen him he has been very productive at center. I do think this gives us a option of covering multiple positions with two guys and allowing us to draft another g/c. A tackle in f/a or draft retain Richardson for depth. This line is looking young and strong I like this signing.
78Chief - January 10, 2012 via mobile
2009 draft class
looks a lot better if you lump in Belcher & Harris
KansasCityShuffle - January 10, 2012
True. That's how SD got their jump start, hitting on UDFAs.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
you know who's an undrafted FA...
starts w M, ends w IMS!!!! : )
reedeasy - January 10, 2012 via Android app
Some guy named
Marcus Tims ?
chiefsman! - January 10, 2012 via mobile
Mavis Jokims.
reedeasy - January 10, 2012 via Android app
Molly Sims.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
My favorite M....IMS so far.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
yawn
sm7600 - January 10, 2012
more exciting than the game last night.
snooze-o-rama.
reedeasy - January 10, 2012 via Android app
THAT WAS AN AWESOME DEFENSIVE DISPLAY, YOU ARENA LEAGUER
/sarcasm
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
I'm so tired this morning...
that game was so damn exciting I could sleep afterwards.
HIV 2 Elway - January 10, 2012
if not during
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Yeah, I was up all night.
Because I couldn’t stay awake during the game.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
ha!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
fart
severn58 - January 10, 2012
Well this may mean
Chiefs are going after Bowe , McClain , and Carr now . I could see some bigger name signings pretty soon. Hopefully
chiefsman! - January 10, 2012 via mobile
I like Daryl Harris.
Hopefully this is the year that he makes the teams and is a quality backup for us.
MtHammer - January 10, 2012
Does he have any more PS eligibility left?
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
I believe it is now or never.
I’m thinking he will end up being replaced by a draft pick…
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
He does not.
MtHammer - January 10, 2012
I have heard how much they 'like' Harris for a while
…but if he was really any good somebody would have signed him off the PS
FrankPitts - January 10, 2012
Of course
other teams wouldn’t have near as much info on him as the Chiefs. It’s not like there haven’t been other practice squad players who have gone on to be very good players.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
Lilja.
Brsrkr - January 10, 2012
Yeah, but he plays a different position.
Oh wait…
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
Draft Martin in the first rd to play left tackle.
Move Albert to left guard, Hudson to center, Asamoah to RG and draft a RT in the second rd. An offensive line we can be proud of for years.
Mustang fever - January 10, 2012
Martin will be gone by 11
I want Decastro or Burfict at 11. I’m leaning towards Decastro, hes the best OG to come out in a long time. Absolutely dominant on the ground game with great athleticism to pull and block in space. He will be a starter and a Pro Bowler from year one and we wont have to pay him 60 million until his 4 year contract runs out. 57 million is what NO other OG got and I’m sure thats what Nicks will want. Plug Decastro in at LG and sign Levi Brown in FA and you have a line that looks like Albert/Decastro/Hudon/Aso/Brown. We could also draft pure RT Bobbie Massie in the 3rd. I wish Ricky Wagner would have come out this year, hes another Gabe Carimi.
BigRatt - January 10, 2012
With a line like that, Charles runs for 2000 yards!
With Albert/Decastro/Hudson we could easily have one of the better left OLs in the league.
BigRatt - January 10, 2012
what about?
mike caputo center from nebraska might……not even have to use a draft pick on him? lots of playing time from the huskers
royalsandchiefs - January 10, 2012
David Mims is the answer at RT (or LT) this season. Begin believing Chiefs Nation
Hey Chief Nation Fans, a quick reminder: David Mims was signed and developed to play this season. Bring in all of the draft picks you can, but pencil in Mims on the OL. This freak of nature only needed time to learn his craft (and NFL footwork). Because no one outside of the Chiefs have seen Mims since the pre-season, I’d venture to say his skill set has improved leaps and bounds (just ask Gaither and the 8 other OL brought into camp last year). This kid has worked to get to this level, now is the time for Mims to show he’s ready to start, and he is…. Go Chiefs
Big Daddy Booster - January 11, 2012
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