Good evening Chiefs fans. Sorry about the late post, but I was on another thread here at AP commenting and lost track of the time. In addition, let me apologize for last week. (What the heck am I talking about?) It seems that the holiday season got me all turned about and I forgot what day it was. Instead of posting on Tuesday, I posted on Monday. I didn't even realize I had done it until Wednesday evening. What can you expect from an idiot? Chris, Joel, and the Arrowhead Pride readers are getting a level of competency equal to the salary I earn for this gig.
Now that we all know just how sorry I am let's get into this weeks topic so I'll have something to be ashamed of for the remainder of the week. Without further ado : Cheese Wheels and Stereophonic Headphones
*** Just Kidding. Only 1 of you is going to find that even slightly amusing, but that's okay because I wrote it just for you.

Any good Chiefs fan is already well aware that we've employed four offensive coordinators over the last three seasons (Chan Gailey, Todd Haley, Charlie Weis, and Bill Muir). As the team sits today we'll most likely be hiring another one for 2012. With each new coordinator came a new, or majorly tweaked, offensive scheme. Matt Cassel has had more different playbooks to learn in his career than anyone except Jason Campbell, and it shows. No, I'm not about to make any excuses for Matt Cassel, but I am going to imply that the ever swinging door at offensive coordinator is the biggest contributor to the lack of improvement by the Chiefs offense. If I were Matt Cassel I would have handed Bill Muir back the playbook this past off season and told him, "Nah, I'm gonna skip that one, and just wait for the next new one."
Sitting here at my desk, I'm surrounded by stacks of paperwork on all sides piled higher than my monitor stands. Namely, I'm buried in play by play, quarter by quarter, and game by game drive charts for the Chiefs 2011 offense. (Hint: all this information may somehow make it's way into a post sometime during the long off season ahead) Without making things overly complicated (or even remotely complicated), the short story is: The Chiefs offense sucked. Sure, there were bright spots and small success stories. Yes, the outcome was hindered by injuries and play calling; but the bottom line remains. The Chiefs offense is just plain bad. The reasons are many, but the number one culprit is lack of consistency.
Look no further than the a fore mentioned Jason Campbell for the proof. Having suffered three offensive coordinators in three seasons Campbell had to start over again every year with the Redskins. He was eventually traded to the Raiders and yet another new system. Finally, in 2011, he was afforded the opportunity to start a season without starting over on the offensive scheme. Hue Jackson moved from coordinator to head coach, and nothing else changed for Campbell. The Raiders quarterback came out firing on all cylinders, and had the best start to a season of his career; as well as the most consistency from game to game that he'd ever shown. Things were finally looking up for Mr. Campbell. His career looked to be on an upswing that it sorely needed. For all the potential Campbell had shown, he'd never been able to turn the corner from a mediocre quarterback to a true unquestioned starter. Campbell would be secure in his job for the first time in his career, and would act as a mentor to a supplemental draft prospect in Pryor.
And then..... in one hit, it was all over. Campbell was out injured. He made moves to rush himself into surgery so that his recovery timetable could have him back on the field in late November (all things going well) or early December. Campbell underwent the necessary procedures, only to wake up from surgery to the news that the Raiders had traded for Carson Palmer. The now infamous trade all but assured that Campbell's career in Oakland was over. After the team traded away a possible two first round picks for Palmer, there was no need for him to rush his recovery anymore. If Campbell is lucky enough to get another quarterback job in 2012, it will most likely be for a new team, coordinator, and scheme. So much for consistency.
Matty Nice is out injured. He's already had four coordinators with a fifth one on the way. Is it really a shock to anyone that the offense has not been able to make the same kind of strides over the last three seasons that the defense has accomplished? You'll never hear Cassel complain publicly about the inconsistencies in coaching and scheme that he's had to deal with.. so I'll do it for him.
The Chiefs have weapons on offense. Dwayne Bowe is a big talented receiver that can run a slant and make a lot of yards after the catch. He's the same kind of receivers that Todd Haley had a hand in developing for the Cardinals. Bowe's not a speed daemon, but he isn't asked to be one either. Dwayne Bowe is a more talented receiver than Boldin and, I believe, as polished as Fitz. If Bowe ever finds a cure for the dropsies he could set all time Chiefs records. And yet, with another new coordinator and another new scheme Bowe will be forced to spend the off season learning how to do things the way the new guy wants them done instead of polishing the edges on a scheme he's already familiar with.
Breaston and Baldwin will be headed into their second years as Chiefs with new coaches and a new system to learn. Breaston likely came to Kansas City at least in part due to his prior relationship with Haley, and will suffer the same 'new scheme' bumps as Bowe. Baldwin, having had no off-season as a rookie, has the easiest path under a new offensive system. However, he may be asked to throw out everything he's spent a season learning to start from scratch.
An offensive system is more than pass patterns. It's blocking assignments, blitz reads, and stunts as well. Our returning offensive linemen will be coming back to face possible wholesale changes to the system. We'll likely be fielding a new starting center that has to call the protections, and they may not be the same protections he's spent all season learning.
Timing is everything to an offense. Each piece of the machine must be able to quickly and correctly identify their responsibility and then execute it. A quarterback has to be able to trust that the receivers will peel off their routes after reading the oncoming blitz. The running backs must follow the protection calls of the center and the quarterback so they know if they need to block, run, chip, or make themselves available in the flat. And of course, the quarterback and his receivers have to be in tune enough with each other to develop pattern recognition, route timing, and to know each others preferences in any given situation. The icing on the cake is that all eleven players have to be able to trust that the men on either side of them know what to do, and will be able to do it when the ball is snapped. The cherry on the icing is the rapport (see uptman, I do learn) the quarterback and receivers must develop in timing pattern throws
A new scheme puts every player in doubt, and rounds the edges on every piece of the puzzle. Once again, the Chiefs will be starting a season with ill fitting puzzle pieces and less than complete trust in each other. Todd Haley is gone and his base system leaves with him. We will be scrambling to install a new offense during camp, and likely bungling it all up for at least the first quarter of the season (if not longer) before the offense begins to truly gel. In Texas Hold'em terms, the Chiefs are going to bluff their way through the flop while praying on the river card to keep them in the hand, yet again.
The most important decision of Romeo Crennel's head coaching run for the Chiefs is likely the first one he'll have to answer. Who should he hire as an offensive coordinator? Considering Crennel's age, the next few years will probably his last run at a title. The defense seems to have turned the corner and threatens to break into it's stride. The offense, on the other hand, has stalled in the blocks for yet another season. I don't claim to know much about offensive football, but I know this: The Chiefs are desperately in need of consistency at the offensive coordinator position. Romeo's hire has to last longer than one season. The new OC has got to be the horse the Chiefs hitch their buggy to for years, not months.
*** In a completely separate argument: With the entire offense starting over from scratch, will there ever be a better time to put a rookie quarterback on the field to build the offense around?
1 recs | 379 comments
I see what you did there ... both times
clever boy, but you’re still wrong when you and I disagree … which you’d have learned long ago but, Idiot that you are, some things never change
/no homo
upamtn - January 10, 2012
addendum: an argument could be made that, in re OC's, we've hired four and used one
upamtn - January 10, 2012
changed a few things in the body of the text.
and added a egg just for you.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
I noticed ...
just before I called The Village to tell them you got out again … you’re fortunate I enjoy bad humor, you a reprieve
upamtn - January 10, 2012
I didn't "get out" of the village
I’m their king. I get to do what I want, and that includes leaving the village now and again to pee upstream of the watering hole.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
oh, you've graduated up to Cretin?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
TC....Ups told me you wouldn't mind having an Imbecile in the village, is that true, cause I'd love to join in!
Masons - January 10, 2012
imbeciles have their own tent (its an Indian TeePee Village).....
It has a sun roof for lighting. It’s a little damp when it rains, but the fresh air helps to control the smell.
(The rest of the village uses a corner of that tent to poop in.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
TeePee'd Village!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
you taught a tree to wipe it's butt?
..wait.. your trees have butts?
Im confused.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
the status is quo
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Isn't a Tee Pee supposed to be round?
HughSchloobie - January 11, 2012
AND ... I told Masons that you, Tex, are our Official and Only Idiot
that title belongs to you and you alone, Tex … others will have to learn to live with lesser titles
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Who named you King Idiot of naming the Idiots?
Idiot!!!
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Nah.. I'm not the ONLY idiot.
I’m just the only one officially recognized by SB Nation.
Which makes me the King of the Idiots.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
can't argue with that kind of logic!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
So would that make me a rogue idiot?
TRSChief - January 11, 2012
i say bring back Al
Since vermeil is probably out of the question is have to say Al saunders would be my pick.
Dead Believer - January 10, 2012 via mobile
I would take my chances with change again
If certain coaches can come in and install a different offense with the same players on other teams and be successful in the first year, no reason it can’t be done here
RememberDelaney37 - January 10, 2012 via mobile
is there another harbaugh?
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
Yeah, Baltimore has one.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
is he still under contract?
we could always hire oregon’s OC
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
Chip Kelly is supposedly talking to an NFL team.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
uh oh ... NCAA leaning on him for recruiting violations?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
bet it ain't Seattle
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
everything is a NCAA violation
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
Ya like that Bowl system
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
well how else is LSU/alabama going to get rid of their annual losers?
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
and the NFL has rules against slobber knocking hits
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
the question is do they have rules against...
showering with little boys in the locker room after the players leave
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
Well no
I don’t think so.
Tebow does it all the time, in a good way
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
no
it’s a mandatory requirement
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
It's hilarious that this is the first thing that occurred to you.
And in under a minute!
Brsrkr - January 11, 2012
Why would anyone want to continue this offensive mess?
Not to say this system couldn’t work, but it’s not like there is much to lose by trying something different.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
like bootlegs and screens?
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
I say scrap it.................
and call the junk man!
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
Junk mEn
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
left out lamont
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
I hear Fred and Lamount will make us a hell of a deal on a scrap heap QB named orton =P
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
Fred could make a deal for the big on!
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
elizabeth i'm coming to see u honey
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
dummy
His Royal Greatness - January 10, 2012
Hey look!
Romeo and his dad!
TheScootness - January 11, 2012
Now that he's free
I’m really hoping for Hue Jackson.
Before we hired Haley as HC I was on the Hue Jackson bandwagon.
I’d never let him make the decisions on how to spend draft picks =) but he’s a good offensive mind.
Plus, anyone that can make Campbell look like more than a stop gap should be able to work with Cassel or Orton if they are absolutely FORCED to.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
Jackson or Saunders woukd work for me
MNchiefsfan - January 10, 2012
so ... same style? same scheme? same philosophy?
change everything? change little things? what’s on your pointy little mind?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Trade for RG3
and let Hue Jackson build the offense and scheme around his strengths, obviously
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
I knew you were going to say that :-)
upamtn - January 10, 2012
I'm not really that concerned with what scheme we actually run
I’m much more interested in picking one coach and one system…..and then sticking with them for a several seasons.
Tweaking the scheme.. or building on the base system year after year = development and improvement…
All we seem to do is continually start over from scratch.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
teams actually DO that?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
It is called
WINNING
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
I heard that was Clark Hunt's plan
something about the Pittsburgh Steelers model…
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
It's a process
Wichita Chief - January 10, 2012
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Frog in a Blender
Older than almost anything else on the net… but still filled with awesome
If you don’t know Joe Cartoon…. You aren’t old enough to appreciate the internet )
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
Holy cow. Blast from the past.
TRSChief - January 11, 2012
didn't we used to do that like back in the 90's?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
We sent Head Coaches of to the NFL like Fleas in the 90's
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
2 1sts and a third and change
maybe send em Lewis
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
1 first, a 3rd, and Bowe
a 4th next year if it’s needed.
MNchiefsfan - January 10, 2012
and if that's not enough? how much more do you give away?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
since we can't trade Bowe
i wonder what the offer really is
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
THE All-Purpose picture du jour
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Deux
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
There's no way he just walks
We either sign him long term or franchise him.
MNchiefsfan - January 10, 2012
agreed
upamtn - January 10, 2012
or tag and trade him
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
Yeah, I meant that as well when I say "franchise him"
Frankly, if we can’t reach an agreement I say tag and trade.
If that’s the scenario that presents itself, I say go all in and go get RG3.
MNchiefsfan - January 10, 2012
Use your hate. Let it flow through you.
Join me on the dark side and become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
I can see the merit in both arguments
If Bowe and Carr both sign withlout any problems, it’d be tougher to trade up.
But we’re close. Very close. Tough not to go for broke for the QB…
MNchiefsfan - January 10, 2012
Why does this come to mind right now?
TRSChief - January 11, 2012
thats the exact picture I posts that worked for an hour and then errored out... 2 comments down
Texas Chief - January 11, 2012
don't do it, MN ... he'll only betray you in the end!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
I'd tell you that I'm your father, but no one would believe I'm that old.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
the most intelligent comment you've made in 2 years
have a cookie
upamtn - January 10, 2012
It depends on what other FA moves have been made prior to the draft
MNchiefsfan - January 10, 2012
no thanks i don't want another record year in penalties
fujirio - January 10, 2012
Because that would totally be on an offensive coordinator, and not a head coach.
TRSChief - January 11, 2012
We should sign Campbell
dammit
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
I have a lot to say on this subject
Maybe I will quit being lazy and put something together soon…
Good stuff Texas Chief. I will say this, despite the OC changes of the past. This team should what nothing to do with 2011’s offense. It needs to forget as a team, that it ever happened, terminology and all.
There is no way that I ever want to see a Chiefs offense that piss poor ever again. It is time to go play caller shopping.
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
*want
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
sign tebow, we'll have 31.6 yards per throw
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
New Hue for Chief's Offense
I agree Hue Jackson is the man for OC of the Chiefs. He will be as big a Raider Hater as the rest of us and be determined to rip them to shreds twice a year.
He has has the experience and proven track record. Get him asap and elevate Hall of Famer Emmitt Thomas to Defensive Coordinator to carry on Romeo’s work on the defensive side.
Minimal disruption to the defense and a proven coach for the offense.
Lakedog - January 10, 2012
I kinda like the Hue idea, too
could do worse, but can we do better?
Bleedingredandgold - January 10, 2012
#6
I like Puzzles and Poker
not good at either, but the Chiefs at OC are not either
we will learn for 24 games :)
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
When we sign an OC we will know whether it is long-term or stop-gap
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
CatChief left you a whole post of Southern Comfort
upamtn - January 10, 2012
simple, the chiefs should make a wheel
put “run, screen, bootleg, 10+ yard pass, 20+ yard pass, 30+, hail mary, delay draw, slant, FG, and punt”
spin the wheel and go with it.
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
chiefs already do that
fujirio - January 10, 2012
cassel is the OC?
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
Ya but the only options
were screen pass, oh shit, and run up the middle to Dex/TJ
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
or..........
the happy feet dance
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
Matt Cassel prepares to throw deep...
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
and falls
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
Cassel goes deep
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
Jamaal Charles that is huge
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
See what u did there.
NJChieffan16 - January 10, 2012 via mobile
WHOA!!!!!!
Masons - January 10, 2012
I just poped on and that thing scared the crap out of me...lol
Masons - January 10, 2012
popped...lol
Masons - January 10, 2012
what, you got something against the Strolling Bones?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
DB's check the tongue for how hard Cassel is getting
to go deep
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
Reggie Tongue?
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
I would be OK with Hue Jackson or Al Saunders, but I would also want them to come with Jason Campbell in tow. I think that he’s turned the corner to an above average QB, and whomever signs him will be a lucky team.
Topchief1 - January 10, 2012
I'd rather have Orton.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
I rather have favre
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
I rather have Montana
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
I'd rather have a great QB/play caller combo.
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Manning?
Brsrkr - January 11, 2012
Poop
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Argh....blinders was that you
Masons - January 10, 2012
damn CBO
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
thank you, Steve! (someone had to do it!)
upamtn - January 10, 2012
I'm going to have to visit this "village of idiots" more often, didn't know what I was missing!
…………I kinda feel at home ; )
Masons - January 10, 2012
We are an in-breed bunch
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
as long as I don't have to squeel like a pig
Masons - January 10, 2012
Maxwell, is that you?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Definitely not
We have them on the spit already
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
Village of Blathering Idiots
sounds better than Village of the Damned (which is what we are if Cassel starts in 2012)
upamtn - January 10, 2012
IDEA!!!! scary I know "The Imbecile" has an idea....but get ready
…………..why don’t we all get together and pull a nancy kerrigan on Cassel
Masons - January 10, 2012
this could work ...
upamtn - January 10, 2012
I'll get the Louisville
Masons - January 10, 2012
what did you say
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
OMG Steve...enough with that....I left you a comment on your post the other day, did you see it....bad memories
Masons - January 10, 2012
they were resureccted
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
yup, nothing like an intelligent football discussion from SB Nation's most knowledgeable fan base!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
fixed
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
derp
I feel creepy tonight
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
Good Lord is that a chewed up penis in her mouth
Masons - January 10, 2012
I think she was going to say dermatologist
but… her face fell off.
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
she can't believe the raiders fired there head coach
raiders fan
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
I'd hit it.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
Looks like you already did
And she just didn’t get down to the free clinic in time.
Penicillin could have to prevented so much…
TRSChief - January 11, 2012
Is that Al?
Did he come back to fire Hue?
Wichita Chief - January 10, 2012
Hue's been fired, no word yet on Al
upamtn - January 10, 2012
and we could get the bats from the Royals ... they certainly don't use them (ZING!)
upamtn - January 10, 2012
If you don't read AP
Part of you will be missing

Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Make it stop
Masons - January 10, 2012
I just wish someone would let that poor kid out of the van
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
pleaasse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
Just look at the right side...
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
I can't
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
That's breaking bad, man.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
Gus
dying like a boss…
Looking fly and in control until the very last moment.
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
That was freakin' sweet.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
amazing writing...
great show, one of the best on TV.
Another non Chiefs reason that I can’t wait until August.
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Dammit Waiting again
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
At least Aiken will keep us all entertained with his lockout posts during the off months...
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Nuclear Winter!
runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
run like idiots
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Who am I kidding, that is the best run ever...
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
if he's a Free Agent then maybe ...
upamtn - January 10, 2012
sign him up!
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
Doh!!!
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Maybe we'll get lucky, and there will be another lock out this year to write about.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
yea it was
be cee - January 11, 2012
raider fan in the black hole
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
Another IDEA!!!!.....................lets trade our next five 1st round picks, Berry, Charles and Hali for RG3
Masons - January 10, 2012
Oh and next years 3rd
Masons - January 10, 2012
no way, man ... for that much we should get Trent Richardson, at least!
moron!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
I feel Lucky
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
Or at least a guy named Palmer
No. Not Arnold………..
Wichita Chief - January 10, 2012
+Emerson & Lake
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
That would be a steal
Wichita Chief - January 10, 2012
I volunteer to travel to the Canary Islands to find Carl
kabrink - January 10, 2012
And if they don't take it.
throw in DJ and Flowers!
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
nah. We should draft 7 offensive linemen every single year for the next 21 years and then celebrate our 50th
anniversary since drafting a quarterback in the first round by signing some other teams cast off!
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
then what are we supposed to do with our 48 TE's?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
and what about the 48 Cheerleaders
?
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
no problem. Leave the Cheerleaders to me. I'll put them to good use
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
Are you Kidding?
What an Idiot :)
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
I just wanna make em climb ladders and paint my house while I supervise from the ground and the roof
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
some things are sacred!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
if the cast off is peyton manning take it
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
Agreed
he was always an It

Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
OK, so seriously...
Besides Jackson and Saunders… what other names are we looking at for an OC?
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
you mean you haven't kept track?
useless, absolutely useless!
who else is out there?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
not mike mularkey
he just got hired as the Jaguars HC
BeauJackson - January 10, 2012
Mularky? wow ... bit of a surprise there
wonder if he keeps whatshisname as DC
upamtn - January 10, 2012
What a crappy hire for a brand new owner...
Way to cut the red tape with a chainsaw.
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Is he from Texas?
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
I thought he was from the Jungle Book
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
his mentoring of Matt Ryan was a big selling point to the Jaguars apparently
Blain Gabbert set to dominate just like Ryan.
BeauJackson - January 10, 2012
When or what has Matt Ryan dominated?
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
ice?
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
My, my Lady....that has to be your sexiest pic yet....
Masons - January 10, 2012
i try not to use the sarcasm font
sometimes it would help.
BeauJackson - January 10, 2012
if you have to explain a joke
it’s not funny anymore
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
sarcasm
is better when it is obviousChief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
and if it's obvious then it obviously doesn't need to be explained
upamtn - January 10, 2012
What if the recipient is
obviously oblivious to the obvious.
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
I don't get it ...
(do NOT overthink this!)
upamtn - January 10, 2012
you see... it's funny because
… oranges don’t taste like haggas
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
did you walk to school ...
… or bring your lunch?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
I rode in the very far back seat of the bus
It sucked because I had to walk all the way down the isle past all 5 rows every day… both ways.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
you needed a shorter bus
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Laugh Out Loud
CMatthews - January 10, 2012
Ha!!!!!!!!!!
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
not enough room for my lunch
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
now me, we were so poor I had to ride this ...
upamtn - January 10, 2012
I used to be the guy that used the big padded stick to shove kids into that...
..and then I had to pedal it to the 1/2 full dumpster they used for a classroom.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
and yet somehow there test scores are amazing...
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
upamtn is about to make fun of you in
3….2…..1……
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
Well this is the idiot thread...
The specifics of there, their and they’re are not required in here or over theiy’re.
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
when in doubt, just substitute "you's guys"
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
or, when referring to the younger crowd ...
yoots!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
boobs
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
did you say yoots?
What’s a yoot?
Did you say Jerry Gallo? Jerry Gallo’s dead! I’m not Jerry Callo.. “SEA..A…LL..O”
Chevy didn’t make a 327 in ‘55. The 327 didn’t come out til ‘62, and it wasn’t offered with a 4 barrel carb until ’64. However, in ’1964 the correct ignition timing would be 4 degrees before top dead center"
….uhhhh…. she’s acceptable your honor.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
I hate grits!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
do you like your grits regular, creamy , or al dente
.. uhh.. just regula’ I guess.
I can quote most of that movie btw.
Any time I’m flipping through channels and it’s on… I watch it again.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
do you think Bambi CARES what you're wearing?
that, sir, was one hilarious flick
upamtn - January 10, 2012
fail!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
changed my profile pic with you in mind ups..
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
THAT sir, is classic
and scary :-)
upamtn - January 10, 2012
and true
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
That Mel Tucker part is discouraging
A coach like him will be wise to keep Tucker…boo.
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
What a bunch of marlarky!
Wichita Chief - January 10, 2012
Mo Carthon
Jim Zorn
Jeff Davidson
Tom Clements
Greg Olson
Peyton Manning QB/OC
Dirk Koetter
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Mo is the man.......
Masons - January 10, 2012
vomit
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
I mean, I respect your opinion on Mo being the man
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
i don't .. /vomit
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
barf?
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
John Candy's character in Space Balls?
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
the scary thing is that people actually dress like that ...
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Mo is a candidate, I didn't say he was a good one.
I’d rather the team move in a different direction at running backs coach too. TBH.
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
clearly
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Mo is the man.......
Masons - January 10, 2012
and Stanzi is the Manzi
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
Here...
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
No Mo
Masons - January 10, 2012
What do you like about Mo Masons?
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Mo was one of my favorites in the 80s...thats all....lol
Masons - January 10, 2012
you were a Giants fan?
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Yes sir
Masons - January 10, 2012
Well... I'm sorry about that truth.
Mo Carthon has never impressed me as a coach and I would enjoy the Chiefs moving in a different direction with the running game. No Muir, Carthon or Haley with their greasy fingers in the playbook at all.
This team needs a fresh start on offense IMO, some people that can harvest the talent they well have on the team in 2012.
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
a fresh start? what, get rid of Jamaal Charles? Moeaki?
trade off Hudson and Asamoah and use a different blocking scheme, too … while we’re at it, let’s ditch the defense and trade Berry for a 4th round pick
upamtn - January 10, 2012
hmmmm
a fresh start? what, get rid of Jamaal Charles? Moeaki?use a different blocking schemetrade off Hudson and Asamoah and
, too … while we’re at it, let’s ditch the defense and trade Berry for a 4th round pickChief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
ok, I MIGHT allow you to remain a Chiefs fan ...
but no more scary pictures!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
does that mean no more nudies?
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
that is a lot to ask
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Herm the Germ!
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
tell ya what..
if we promote Thomas to DC.. Herm can come back and coach the defensive backs…. as long as he promises not to talk to Eric Berry… ever.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
He'll need some duct tape
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
I loved watching him throw footballs at players sitting in the kybo.
Helmets - January 11, 2012
mine isn't :-)
(see sig)
upamtn - January 10, 2012
yep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZgVRJ-H8U
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
I prefer Shemp
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
ols school
Masons - January 10, 2012
old school
Masons - January 10, 2012
did marty get the bucs job
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
he's not getting anything ...
upamtn - January 10, 2012
did the bucs hire someone yet
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
not that I'm aware
but it won’t be Marty … he’s done
upamtn - January 10, 2012
And you know this... how?
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
Ups is a fortune teller
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
which is as close as I'll ever get to a fortune
upamtn - January 10, 2012
it's really awkward to see him in that tent at the fair wearing full bell dancers silks.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
you're grounded
forever
upamtn - January 10, 2012
The truth hurts
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
he can tell time?
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
sure I can ... I have a sundial
upamtn - January 10, 2012
just lay down outside on a clear day.
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
that only works for upamtn when there are sheep nearby
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
do they talk to him
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
they run too fast for me to catch these days ...
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
w00000000000000000000000000t!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
not to be mistaken with:
y00000000000000000000000000ts!
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
annnnndddd... rec'd
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
He could deflaye it instead
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
THIS is why we have RULES
No Darts!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
bar or lawn?
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
He was referring to the darts on a dress.
He doesn’t like the way the they lay across the sheep’s hips.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
either one
not while my sheep is around
upamtn - January 10, 2012
only during the day
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
you just scared him
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
I've taught middle school for 20 years ...
NOTHING scares me
upamtn - January 10, 2012
And he still hasn't gotten a date for the 8th grade prom
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
8th grades have prom?
man I’m getting old
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
only in a middle school
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
The rules are different when you are 22 in the 8th grade right TC?
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
yep. If you're that far ahead you get special treatment.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
yanno, Tex used to walk his kid to kindergarten every single day for a year ...
… only stopped cuz the kid finally went on to 1st grade and Tez was still in kindergarten …
upamtn - January 10, 2012
I used to walk to kindergarten every single day...
only stopped because the police came
i kid i kid
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
well done?
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
stick a fork in him
upamtn - January 10, 2012
the bucs need somebody like marty
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
Mel Tucker would be great for THEM
upamtn - January 10, 2012
That would be out with the old, in with the similar...wouldn't it?
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
but it would work
upamtn - January 10, 2012
They will screw it up no matter who they get in Tampa...
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
maybe they'll get Gruden back after he tells the Raiders to go screw themselves
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
I'm sure that is on the docket...
I’m not sure where the Raiders will go, becoming the Green Bay Packers is interesting, but I don’t see that working for them long term with Winston Moss as the coach.
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
yeah i said the same thing
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
Schottenheimer won’t return to Jets
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
poor Brian
that team is a mess and he’s taking the fall
upamtn - January 10, 2012
interesting
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Poor guy
will land on his feet, I’m sure. A lot better than most.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
definitely
Sanchez is a nitemare for any system to have,
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
and won't be coming to KC
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
not likely, no
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
interesting................
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
Marty and Brian reunited in Tampa Bay!!
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
Not according to Ups.
But I could see that. Marty turn them around, with Brian as his heir apparent.
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
don't forget kurt
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
our special teams coach kurt schotteinheimer
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
I wonder what kurt doing these days
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
marty might get the job
who else are the bucs looking at
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
Why is there so much talk about getting a coordinator that can be "groomed into a HC"?
Pioli needs to focus on winning now, because if he doesn’t he won’t be around to see how this apprentice turns out. Besides its a stupid idea anyway.
rich04 - January 10, 2012
marty could get it turned around in tampa in 2 to 3 years then
become the gm of the bucs
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
Maybe Hue would love to come to KC
to get a shot to take down the Raiders twice a year
ExRoyalsFan - January 10, 2012
he knows cassel from long ago as well
if that is the road the chiefs are still on. his stints in atlanta and washington aren’t impressive whatever that is worth.
BeauJackson - January 10, 2012
I wonder what his relationship is like w/ Emmit Thomas?
Possibly ET could entice him to come aboard.
ExRoyalsFan - January 10, 2012
ET wouldn't be bad as as DC ... he's had plenty of experience
and been Asst HC as well
upamtn - January 10, 2012
I'm liking the sounds of
RAC as HC
Hue as OC
ET as DC
ExRoyalsFan - January 10, 2012
and RG3 and QB.. make it so
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
I think we would be RAC’n up some wins.
ExRoyalsFan - January 10, 2012
touche!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
al saunders would work too for oc
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
What about STC?
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
Alabama's guy?
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Ray?
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
Romano?
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
Cheese?
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Bobby Williams?
just throwing darts…
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
they at least know each other from their time in atlanta
some connections, possibility to stick it to the raiders twice a year, maybe that is enough.
BeauJackson - January 10, 2012
looking at his stints as OC in atlanta and washington
that was with petrino and spurrier, who were disasters, so maybe just ignore those seasons.
BeauJackson - January 10, 2012
How to be consistent? Win more
It’s just that simple
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
because I have to
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
and he had no idea ... sad, just sad
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Jags hired Mularky
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
old news ... sheeesh, follow the thread!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
God Lady... try and keep up.
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
I'll try
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
Okie Dokie
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
eric mangini for DC
???????????
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
NO!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
nope
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
louder
upamtn - January 10, 2012
HELL NO!
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
much gooder!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
I don't understand why people think he is good
one year as DC… one! 2005
17th in points allowed
26th in yards
The Pats were 10-6.
This was on the heels of a dynasty
Twice fired as head coach…
Where is the intrigue?
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
everyone loves a good trainwreck
upamtn - January 10, 2012
then he becomes the fugitive
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
YES! and make him OC too!
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
When hell freezes over
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
what about tebow winning the SB?
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
why do u hate mangini lady chief
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
he worked with romeo in NE
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
NO!
upamtn - January 10, 2012
say it again
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
I know a couple retarded kids that work at McDonalds with Ray Crock
I still wouldn’t put them in charge of the store though.
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
I hit a nerve
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
ya think?
upamtn - January 10, 2012
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
and now... May I suggest Larry Johnson be hired as a sensitivity trainer
Texas Chief - January 10, 2012
I am thinking spitting coach
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
How about gunther if he gets canned
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
he'll probably go to the bucs
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
on three, people ... 1, 2, 3 ...
upamtn - January 10, 2012
It will be for good reason?
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
I hope marty gets the job in tampa
niageriannit1 - January 10, 2012
Jim Zorn
Tito42 - January 10, 2012
Who is the QB coach for KC, Alex?
Tarkus - January 10, 2012
Last Word?
Steve_Chiefs - January 10, 2012
Chiefshero - January 10, 2012
fanshot.............
speculation that our oc could be brian daboll
LadyChief - January 10, 2012
Interesting
Not the best resume
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
Didn't think of him or the guy he replaced Dan Henning
Henning was another member of that magical 1998 Jets team
Chief-blinders-on - January 10, 2012
it's and ill-uuuuuuuuuuuu...sion...
Oh wait, thats Doug Henning
Texas Chief - January 11, 2012
New offensive coordinator
Jed ClampettHis Royal Greatness - January 10, 2012
Brian shottenheimer
Our next oc??
Drewsky2010 - January 11, 2012 via mobile
hope not
ExRoyalsFan - January 11, 2012
42 Years Ago TODAY!
Jan. 11, 1970 – Super Bowl IV – Kansas City 23, Minnesota 7
Wishing and Hoping!
Jason Drue Keith - January 11, 2012
2,3, & 6 are correct...
Skrappy - January 11, 2012
I have been making that point too, that the Chiefs lack of a long-term OC is what has ultimately hurt them. My belief is that Haley was to blame. He couldn’t work with anyone! Surely, it is just a coincidence that under Todd Haley’s tenure there were a total of 4 different OCs. Gailey wouldn’t adjust to Haley’s scheme, and he was fired. Weis was brought in, and we clearly saw how great the Chiefs offense could be. He’s proven. I couldn’t have enjoyed his time in KC more. Again, it wasn’t coincidence that the Chiefs O was great under Weis.
The issue with Weis is: did he get the job at UF, then quit on the Chiefs? Or did Haley want his control back at the latter stages of the season and force Weis to look for different jobs? I don’t know….I live in Buffalo Bills country, and I don’t listen to (nor do I make an effort) to listen to Chiefs sports talk or read articles from the KC Star.
Then there was Muir. Please. He would never stand up to Haley.
Whoever the Chiefs hire next they should plan as their guy to be OC for a long ass time.
ibuc05 - January 11, 2012
right now, I think KC has to consider Hue Jackson.
Or…Peyton Manning. If they sign (or have to trade for) him, he’s basically the OC anyway.
chief Stevie_k - January 11, 2012
Trade Bowe and a first rounder or two?
Hell yeah! That’s a smart fuckin strategy. Get rid of possibly the best WR to ever wear a Chief’s uniform and throw in a first rounder or two too boot. That’s a plan for success! Didn’t Ditka do that for Ricky Williams? I’m glad none of you are in the running for the GM position!
Racyman - January 12, 2012
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