The Kansas City Chiefs could enter the 2012 season with multiple coaching spots to fill if things fall the way we think they will. We think Romeo Crennel will get the head coaching job and, according to reports, we think Bill Muir will "likely" retire.
So if that scenario plays out then the Chiefs could have multiple coaching spots to fill, along with whatever other natural attrition comes up.
First, it would be a defensive coordinator. Crennel was the team's defensive coordinator under Todd Haley and continued in that role when he took over as interim coach. He was asked at Monday's season-ending press conference if he would hire a defensive coordinator if he were given the full-time job and he didn't give a clear answer. Basically, he would evaluate his options.
Second, the Chiefs could need a new offensive coordinator. Reports dating back several weeks have indicated the Chiefs will be looking for offensive coordinators but Muir is stilli officially in that position. That said, if Muir does retire, as it's been suggested, then the Chiefs will be looking for a new offensive coorinator.
Third, the Chiefs could need a new offensive line coach if Muir retires. He held both positions and Pat Perles helped him out on the offensive line.
Fourth, if Crennel is named head coach, he could choose to make other coaching changes. We just don't know what those are yet.
So the Chiefs very well could be busy this year in the coaching department. I suspect they've already got a good idea of what's going to happen.
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Also, Gibbs and/or Thomas could leave for a promotion.
Either one could be seen as a DC candidate for another team.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
or in line for promotion here ...
upamtn - January 3, 2012
I'm hoping this
I’d like to see Thomas as our DC, he’s done a heck of a job with our secondary.
Spiderwomn69 - January 3, 2012
I think Gibbs would be in line to take over.
Thomas has been a secondary coach for a very long time, which says something about his perceived ability to take on more responsibility. Moving up Gibbs would also keep continuity in the defense.
BinSC - January 3, 2012
He's only been a dedicated DB coach since he came to KC. His resume per Wikipedia:
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
saved me some time B
He would be a fine candidate to take over the D, he might be ready for another run at it.
Yep, then we could hire Herm to Coach the DB’s, Haley to Coach the WR’s and Vermeil to be the OC… okay not really.
However, Emmitt as DC would suffice, but we would have to replace him. It’s hard to replace a legend.
Chief-blinders-on - January 3, 2012
Emmitt as assistant head coach, Gibbs as DC,
Cowher as LBs coach, Dungy as DBs coach. Get the old team back together. The Kansas City Way.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
Carl Peterson
Water boy during the draft?
Chief-blinders-on - January 3, 2012
Ticket taker.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
Well shit, if we're getting the band back together
Marty for DC, Gunther for LB coach, Green for QB. Problems solved.
TheScootness - January 3, 2012
Wow, nice info
Thanks
MNchiefsfan - January 3, 2012
Don't thank me,
thank Sue Gardner.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
Heck of a lady
MNchiefsfan - January 3, 2012
They should try to get Will Shileds to be the new oline coach
I heard for the past couple years he has been working with guards entering the draft on their technique Why not bring those skills back home.
KingChief - January 3, 2012
he owns/runs a workout/training facility
Chief Willie Wildcat - January 3, 2012
WHY WHY WHY would we want a new DC
You might as well take a fat sh1t on the defense and trade away our playmakers
CorFueled - January 3, 2012
Because if rac is not a HC here, he will be a HC somewhere else next year. So, no matter what, chiefs need a new DC next year
Okie Red - January 3, 2012 via mobile
I think he's saying that RAC should do DC duties along with HC
MNchiefsfan - January 3, 2012
You got that from him talking about shitting on the defense...
Man law school makes you really perceptive.
Chief-blinders-on - January 3, 2012
I try
MNchiefsfan - January 3, 2012
The ONLY way I'll accept Crennel as Head Coach is if he is our acting DC too.
If RAC being HC means we need a new DC then I am 100% against RAC as head coach
CorFueled - January 3, 2012
wow, good thing you have this inside information that nobody else on the planet knows!
upamtn - January 3, 2012
Note the word "if"
MNchiefsfan - January 3, 2012
Hopefully we'd get a young guy that Romeo could tutor.
If he stays in the HC spot, I hope the Hoopla keeps calling plays. Just needs a young grasshopper to do the in-week grunt work.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
I would hate to keep RAC as DC if he becomes HC
Frankly, there just aren’t many people that do well as both HC and as a Coordinator. Fact is though that no matter who he hires as DC the guy will be running the defense the way RAC wants it. It’s not like he would hire a chump and just let the guy ruin the defense.
Fozzyboyd - January 3, 2012
Seems like most of the recent Super Bowl champs
have had head coaches doing double-duty on one side of the ball. Belichick, Payton, McCarthy…
Tarkus - January 3, 2012
Fine, don’t accept it and live in a fantasy world
Okie Red - January 3, 2012 via mobile
Need a new special teams coach
HIV 2 Elway - January 3, 2012
This
I was about to type this. ST has really under performed and the last 3 games cost us some huge plays. The second blocked FG against the Raiders should have sent our ST coach packing.
Spiderwomn69 - January 3, 2012
+1000
KingChief - January 3, 2012
I remember Hoffman being touted as a ST "guru."
Was he really a supposed to be a special teams guru, or a kicking guru?
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
Kicking guru
Which he’s done a fantastic job. I would say he’s done a good job with our coverage units as well. The problem is the constant errors by his players and the fact that potentially one of the most dynamic returners in the league is being wasted.
GenericBrand - January 3, 2012
The fact that Arenas finished 3rd in punt returns and never took any to the house shows you how good he can be.
saskwatch - January 3, 2012
Yeah.
He almost always has someone in his face. It’s amazing he’s done as well as he has.
Tarkus - January 3, 2012
This..
Chieffan_Toby - January 3, 2012
Yes. We need to keep Hoffman as the kicking guru at the very least
But other than that gaffe I think he’s done well overall.
TheScootness - January 3, 2012
HIV
We are often on different pages, but I’m with you on this one! How Steve Hoffman remains the SP Team coach is a complete mystery. Please FIRE this guy! SOON!
Chief1 - January 3, 2012
what about
Zorn? surely there’s room to promote him somewhere?
kaorder1 - January 3, 2012
yeah, he's done such a GREAT job with Cassel and Palko this year!
upamtn - January 3, 2012
Yeah because the talent sure is there
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
oh, no talent you say? true dat! so that means Zorn isn't at fault ... hmmmmm
then who is it responsible for that lack of talent? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
upamtn - January 3, 2012
how
many Brady’s, Mannings, Brees and rapist Ben’s are out there?
kaorder1 - January 3, 2012
Watch the news
There are plenty of rapist Ben’s out there…
Chief-blinders-on - January 3, 2012
That can be put on the GMs shoulders
Back-up caliber players can’t suddenly become elite over a shortened offseason.
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
Give him an off-season and full camp first.
Kind of hard to evaluate his effectiveness yet. QB coach is most valuable during the off-season when more teaching is done and not just game prep.
BinSC - January 3, 2012
I'm not necessarily opposed to Zorn.
But let’s not forget that he went straight from QB coach to HC. He was never a coordinator. I’m not sure how he would do in that capacity.
polodude017 - January 3, 2012
right,
b/c McDaniels will get so much out of the Offense after his tour of duty with the Donks & Lambs…..
kaorder1 - January 3, 2012
Promote
Zorn to OC
Thomas to DC
Sirianni to QB coach
Then hire outside for Oline coach, DB coach.
Crennel fired Carthon as OC in Cleveland…I hope he does it again here….I’m not a Mo fan.
I also hope we get a different WR coach. Anderson has not help develop any WR.
Matt_Grbac - January 3, 2012 via mobile
I hear some guy named Haley is free and is good with wr’s, maybe we could get him
Okie Red - January 3, 2012 via mobile
Why do you not like Carthon?
Tarkus - January 3, 2012
Well
For starters he has been fired every he has been.
Second I just didn’t think he did a good job with RB development.
Third he is a Haley guy….he smells of Haley and I want him gone.
Matt_Grbac - January 3, 2012 via mobile
He didn't get fired from AZ
??
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
Plus
He was an OC for Crennel at one point, more like a Parcells guy.
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
Parcell tree
Haley guy…
Matt_Grbac - January 3, 2012 via mobile
He's a Parcells guy first and foremost
Played for him with the Giants
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
Ok
He WAS a Parcells guy. Now he is a Haley guy. He last worked for Haley and was his Assistant Head Coach. He deserves to hit the road.
Matt_Grbac - January 3, 2012 via mobile
He last worked for Crennel lol
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
Pretty much all coaches get fired everywhere they've been.
Charles has done pretty well under him. Jones? Meh. Battle did a good job for a #3 back.
Don’t really care either way if he’s a Haley guy.
Tarkus - January 3, 2012
How about
Priest Holmes as RB coach
Eddie Kennison WR coach
Matt_Grbac - January 3, 2012 via mobile
Meh.
Great players don’t necessarily make great coaches. Have either of those guys even coached elsewhere? Do they even want to?
Tarkus - January 3, 2012
Johnnie Morton as our new Worm Coach?
Or maybe our new Getting Ripped Coach?
GenericBrand - January 3, 2012
Steve Breaston is a Haley guy.
We should get rid of him toomisterbrain - January 3, 2012
Ok but we can't get rid of ALL the Haley guys.
At least let me keep Urban!
polodude017 - January 3, 2012
Disagree with all the in-house promotions
This team was not very good this year…yet we want to keep the same crap around why?
I say hire outside for OC; Norv Turner. I wouldn’t have much beef with Gibbs as DC, but still I’d prefer a different HC and RAC stay on in DC capacity.
SCKSChief - January 3, 2012
Gibbs to DC, Bewsaf to offensive line coach, Kalo to LB coach.
GenericBrand - January 3, 2012
HIV to PR director.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
They would have to pay him in cash though
Because I doubt he would accept a cheque signed by Hunt. Unless it was one of those huge random house lottery cheques.
GenericBrand - January 3, 2012
Funk would blast through the Arrowhead speakers.
Would everyone have chained square-rims, like Romeo wears for reading glasses when he looks at the call sheet?
Fuck it, I’m for this. GB just got a rec outta me.
go_saleaumua - January 4, 2012
What I think will happen
Gibbs promoted to DC, I remember Crennel crediting him with helping with the gameplan against the Pack, so it sounds like he’s in Crennels ear. Young guy that failed at DC previously, but give Crennel the reigns to playcalling and have Gibbs in an apprentice role.
Next Zorn, although some might not like this you can clearly see on the sidelines that he’s got a play chart and has been apart of offensive decisions since he got here. Crennel also credited him with gameplanning, and given the reigns to the O who knows could be a success. Better than the committee approach we’ve had going.
If not Zorn I want Tom Clements from GB I think he’s got a bright future.
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
I like GIbbs as DC too.
And he probably deserves it if you’re promoting anyone from our team. I don’t mind Zorn but I’m a big Clements fan. If Tom does come though he can leave Flynn in Green Bay.
GenericBrand - January 3, 2012
I consider this the most realistic option. The DC should be a promotion and OC should be someone who will take over HC in a few years.
JComp11 - January 3, 2012
If that scenario plays out then I'd much rather the OC be Clements then Zorn.
Zorny was a badddddddddd HC.
GenericBrand - January 3, 2012
Bad HC but
The redskins were a pretty turrible situation too
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
It was definitely a gong show.
I liked the nice touch of removing playcalling away from Zorn to a guy that Zorn didn’t even hire to his staff who had been with the team less then a month.
GenericBrand - January 3, 2012
Lol yeah not much to work with
I honestly felt bad for him when he was in Washington, he seemed miserable in the sidelines
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
...and who had also been most recently employed as a bingo caller.
polodude017 - January 3, 2012
thats whats going to happen
only it will be McNugget
banshee_01 - January 3, 2012
When you look at improvements made by every single one of our starting LB's over the last few years
And Houston’s rapid improvement as the year went on, it seems very logical to give the job to Gibbs.
MNchiefsfan - January 3, 2012
What about Thomas?
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
Old
He doesn’t have many years left, pretty sure he’s older than Crennel
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
Born 1943. Gibbs was born in 1952.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
So 10 years difference
Makes Gibbs even more appealing
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
Yeah, I guess 10 years would seem like a lot when it's half your life :)
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
But it is true that Thomas is nearing traditional retirement age.
I wonder if he realizes that.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
I think he does and I think he's happy where he's at
He did go the HOF as a Chief, and might just retire as one.
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
Dude seems to be in great shape
He could easily go another ten years.
MNchiefsfan - January 3, 2012
He's a possibility as well
But I saw more improvement from our LBs than our CBs over their tenure. Plus, Gibbs has some experience and is younger.
I’d be fine with either though.
MNchiefsfan - January 3, 2012
DC or HC Romeo HAS to stay
Could you imagine our offseason if we gotta look for an OC,DC,HC,ST<——DAMN
KCinIL - January 3, 2012
why?
plenty of people got fired on monday….time to steal a few?
or we could go 49ers and hire college coaches
Chiefshero - January 3, 2012
Come on
For every Harbaugh is 5 Saban/Spurriers. Just cuz they’re young guys doesn’t mean they’re gonna automatically groom into a great coach(cough cough, Todd, cough cough)
KCinIL - January 3, 2012
Except that there’s usually a pretty good reason why those folks got fired and, generally, that reason is epic failure.
JacinB - January 3, 2012
RAC was fired and we pick him up
I think he’s doing a good job. But that’s just me
Chiefshero - January 3, 2012
Who got cut that you would want though
KCinIL - January 3, 2012
Meh.
By that logic, Clancy Pendergast also got fired. We oughta bring him back.
Or, heck, Todd Haley got fired. He’s going to be another Marv Levy, where as soon as he’s gone from the Chiefs, he finds great success. Heck, let’s just bring him back on so that that great success can be found here.
There’s no one on the list of people who were fired that immediately jump out to me as people who ought to immediately be brought on to improve our team. Unless, there’s someone out there that you’re seeing that no one else is.
JacinB - January 3, 2012
so by your logic, we should fire RAC?
Chiefshero - January 3, 2012
Nope, but nice attempt at deflection.
JacinB - January 3, 2012
so you're saying we shouldn't pick up those who got fired. So why not fire RAC?
Chiefshero - January 3, 2012
I see, can't stand being wrong and that RAC was a decent DC after being fired?
Chiefshero - January 3, 2012
For one thing, your timeline is off.
Romeo was fired as Head Coach, took several years away, and then came back to a lower level position at which he’d previously excelled.
So, using Romeo as an example, you ought to only be looking for our coordinators from the list of people who were fired from head coaching positions after the 2009 season that they initially got after having previously lead teams to multiple Super Bowl victories (and, you know, ideally, have had a hip replaced).
Should be a short list, I’d imagine. Let us know what you come up with.
JacinB - January 3, 2012
Let me be a bit more specific
So, using Romeo as an example, you ought to only be looking for our coordinators from the list of people who were fired from head coaching positions after the 2009 season that they initially got after having previously lead teams to multiple Super Bowl victories at whichever coordinator spot you’re looking to fill (and, you know, ideally, have had a hip replaced).
It was implied, but I wanted to make sure we were bothclear in what you were looking for.
JacinB - January 3, 2012
why you gotta go hating?
Chiefshero - January 3, 2012
Still there are good positional coaches out there...
We need a list of quality special teams guys.
Even if we don’t can Hoffman, they need some new blood to design blocking patterns and actually teach the players the fundamentals of blocking on returns.
Not to mention blocking guys named Dick.
Chief-blinders-on - January 3, 2012
Im half expecting the entire Cowboys staff to get blown up.
They have a good ST coach.
GenericBrand - January 3, 2012
Too bad they don't fire Lovie Smith in Chicago
It would be nice to get their guy to work with Arenas and McCluster.
I don’t know why they hold on to Lovie/
Chief-blinders-on - January 3, 2012
He is the Norv Turner of the NFC
Chief-blinders-on - January 3, 2012
He is an elite coach because he took them to a SB
KingChief - January 3, 2012
He is elite?
Okay… If getting to the Super Bowl and winning made you elite then wouldn’t Brian Billick would have a job?
if going and losing made you elite, then why isn’t Jim Fassel coaching?
He has done some good things for the bears, but I think they should move on.
Chief-blinders-on - January 3, 2012
Billick does have a job
And he’s happy doing it I think
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
Good to know that ChiefWarPaint of Arrowhead Pride fame thinks that Brian Billick is happy.
When he has said he would coach again.
Chief-blinders-on - January 3, 2012
That was sarcasm
People say Fisher is elite for taking the Titans to the SB so I just said Lovie is elite for the same reason
KingChief - January 3, 2012
Awe, sarcasm
Chief-blinders-on - January 3, 2012
You mean like Steve Hoffman
He came from Dallas Cowboys didn’t he?
Chief1 - January 3, 2012
Would be awesome if Vrabel became DC
Chiefshero - January 3, 2012
Only a matter of time.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
Could promote Gibbs and fill the empty LB coach spot with Vrabel.
GenericBrand - January 3, 2012
His dream job is Ohio State.
I don’t see him making a lateral move away from there.
Tarkus - January 3, 2012
With Mims at HC
Wed be unstoppable
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
Nice segment on ESPN's First Tebow
of Mangini breaking down the Chiefs’ defense against the Broncos.
Tarkus - January 3, 2012
well how else are they going to the playoffs????
Chiefshero - January 3, 2012
I'm not following you.
Tarkus - January 3, 2012
Chiefshero - January 3, 2012
Yeah, that's pretty funny!
Tarkus - January 3, 2012
Yeah I saw
Skips still adamant Tambas non facemask call would’ve changed the game. What a douche
KCinIL - January 3, 2012
What's funny is
If it was reversed you’d nEver hear anything about it
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
Any of about sixteen missed holding calls would have changed the game back the other way, so.....
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
Skip has become a caricature of himself.
Which is really saying something, considering what himself is.
Tarkus - January 3, 2012
A really ugly woman?
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
seriously, how did he even get that job? He's either pro or anti something and reverse when
it becomes popular
Chiefshero - January 3, 2012
And he doesn't have a hot blond co-host to keep his ratings up.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
That's his job lol
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
Yep.
He loves playing the role of the villain.
Tarkus - January 3, 2012
And look at all this debate he's created
People love to hate and just mentioning his name gets people riled up, sounds like good ratings to me.
ChiefWarPaint - January 3, 2012
so he's basically a troll
ugly one
Chiefshero - January 3, 2012
Let me guess....
We basically played one on one defense across the board except for our weakest spot (safety), and Tebow was not a good enough NFL player to beat NFL players one on one.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
Ca-Ching
KCinIL - January 3, 2012
They showed man press.
With a safety playing the middle of the field. DJ contained the outside, and forced a triangle surrounding Tebow as he scrambled back. Meanwhile, all the DBs playing man stuck right with their guys throughout the entire play. He pointed out that other teams have left their man to help contain Tebow, but the Chiefs remained disciplined in their coverage.
Tarkus - January 3, 2012
That late discipline was the key.
Tebow time is a function of him getting desperate enough to fling passes that he was afraid to throw earlier. He has open (NFL definitions of open) receivers throughout the game, and I think he sees them, he just doesn’t trust himself to get the ball to them until he has no choice.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
Yep.
Tarkus - January 3, 2012
Must be absolutely KILLING McD to watch his boy out there on his own :)
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
My crystal ball is more awesome than yours
Here we go with the speculation. Crennel will be our head coach. No, McDaniels will be. No, McDaniels can’t be head coach because Pioli can’t sell it to the fanbase, so he’ll be the OC for a couple years, only to fill the HC vacancy when Crennel retires. Bring in Fischer! No, bring Norv Turner as the OC! I said Zorn should be OC!!!! I CAN YELL LOUDER THAN EVERYONE!!!!!
Let’s all calm down a moment…because I’m about to speculate based on logic. All signs DO point to Crennel being the HC. He’s a Pioli guy (New England/Bill Parcells). The players like him. Most importantly, he’s old…and Pioli will use him as a stopgap in order to get another HC in a couple years. The only way Pioli can survive another coaching change in the future is if the HC in waiting is on the current staff.
What do we know: Pioli hires within his circle. His circle mainly consisting of the Patriots and Bill Parcells. Well – I’ve got two names for you – both previously head coaches. Both at a point in their career where they’d take and OC/DC position in an organization. Both connected to the Patriots and/or Bill Parcells.
OC – Tony Sparano. This was Parcells guy.
DC – Eric Mangini. Patriots.
I’m not saying I like it. I’m saying there’s a high probability. Now – feel free to blast me as you wish. But seriously, my crystal ball is rad.
camucr - January 3, 2012
I think that is possible, but if RAC is HC, then he gets to pick the OC and DC, you see
Bigcherokeechief - January 3, 2012
screw HC, DC, and OC. make RAC all three
Chiefshero - January 3, 2012
Can't see Mangini working for/with Crennel.
Or most other former Patriots staffers. Actually, I think that’s the main reason Pioli came here instead of Cleveland, because they asked him if he could work with Mangini as his coach.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
This
And I can’t see mangini wanting to run romeos defense regardless of how close they are. Especially since Romeo would likely keep playcalling duties.
GenericBrand - January 3, 2012
I've heard good things about Sparano, though. But don't know much about him.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
His players sure love him.
GenericBrand - January 3, 2012
That's the big stumbling block
Mangini wouldn’t want to run Crennel’s defense. Which flips my prediction on it’s head and lays the groundwork for promotion from within the organization.
My crystal ball is still hungover from New Years.
camucr - January 3, 2012
Yes Mangini
is not likely..
Bigcherokeechief - January 3, 2012
I don't like the move for Eric Mangini (his brightest moment was when Tony Soprano mentioned him.)
but after I watched the Chiefs hire back Gunther… any rifts can close.
Chief-blinders-on - January 3, 2012
Hmmm
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
Hilarity
I love me some Belichick.
GenericBrand - January 3, 2012
That's the big stumbling block
Mangini wouldn’t want to run Crennel’s defense. Which flips my prediction on it’s head and lays the groundwork for promotion from within the organization.
My crystal ball is still hungover from New Years.
camucr - January 3, 2012
Master the reply button you must.
Brsrkr - January 3, 2012
Apparently, I'm hungover from New Years.
camucr - January 3, 2012
Is the reply button hung over too?
LOL
SCKSChief - January 3, 2012
I don't even know what the means. But the answer's yes.
camucr - January 3, 2012
Just sign Peyton Manning. We get our QB and he can be the OC.
Crennel can be HC and DC.
Problems solved.
CorFueled - January 3, 2012
This is Haley's coaching staff right now. Whoever the new HC is they should have the autonomy to hire their own coaches.
Fuck continuity. Hire the best possible coaching staff.
Rev. Slappy - January 3, 2012
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