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Kansas City Chiefs January 2012 Approval Poll: Scott Pioli

We continue on with our monthly Kansas City Chiefs approval polls. We've already done a poll on Romeo Crennel this week, which is the first approval poll we've ever had with him at the helm.

So now we turn to Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

Like the Chiefs record, Pioli's approval numbers have been up and down all season, with a little more down. Previous month's numbers are posted after the jump. Pioli was at 42 percent last month.

But vote in the poll -- Do you approve of the job Scott Pioli is doing as the Chiefs GM?

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Poll
Do you approve of the job Scott Pioli is doing as the Chiefs GM?
Approve
880 votes
Do not approve
734 votes
Not sure
760 votes

2374 votes | Poll has closed

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it depends who pioli hires as hc
There is a poll every month.
That's one for "not sure."
for now it should be ONLY [ ] Not Sure

(angelic smile)

I voted a BIG FAT NO

His season just ended with his team missing the playoffs….the product he put on the field, players and coaches, was not good enough…could not win a division when the best record is 8-8…he didnt address needs from last year(B Richardson), he had to fire his head coach, the QBOTF he brought in just got outplayed by a guy we picked up off the waiver wire….Im not giving too much credit to him or Haley for last years BS 10 win season…easy schedule and we were STILL lucky to win the division….Pioli has not done anything that has impressed me yet….

He's in the "Show Me" State.....isn't it about time for him to perform?
I'm abstaining until the draft.

Get a QB asshole.

Agree, Get a Coach, get a QB, get an OC.
how about

he gets a QB, holds the asshole

Where are all the people who were praising him for saving cap space to sign players during the season?

What has he done with that cap space?
buying a lot of new caps for next year

free chiefs hat for the first 5.000 who renew season tichets
now you're talkin'
I can't wait to buy my season ticket in december and get that hat

because no one else is paying to watch a crappy team with no QB

not true

a lot of people did just that in 2011

they bought season tickets before the season based on 2010 performance

will they do the same based off the 2011 performance?

absolutely, happens every year in every NFL city
even the 0-16 detroit lions? amazing
I renewed

no pretty cap with flashy LEDs. :|

sometimes life just isn't fair
Picture Diva approves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saving that money for a kicker
Offensive MVP.
aka highest F in the class
To be fair.

Succop was pretty much money, after a shaky start.

Agree, but saying he was the Chiefs offensive MVP is like bragging about getting the highest F in the class
well the crow bar to hunt wallett opened up when we signed succup
had to claw through all the spider webs in there.

Suffers from T-Rex syndrome, short arms that can’t reach his pockets

were people actually making that argument?

Never ceases to amaze me how far some fans will bend over backwards to make excuses for these assholes

Many people, and it made sense until we were halfway through the season and there was absolutely no evidence of anyone being re-signed. But, hey, we locked the kicker up.

Fired Haley.

Named Crennel as interim.

Approve.

This

Pretty much the best he could do in the circumstances.

Sounds like our season (7/16 = 44%).
…up and down all season, with a little more down….Pioli was at 42 percent last month
Looking at that picture......

I hope Martz is not trying to impress Pioli…

Pioli has that

“WTF you talking about” look

absolutely approve

This team is set up nicely, asuming they have one more good offseason

and as long as the "new hire" doesn't do a restart
Yep, solid couple of drafts.

Need to hit more more good draft, and get a decent offensive coordinator.

would parcells come in and coach kc
he's over 70 years old ...

not that I have anything against old people, but … Parcells? nah, his time has passed

agreed

Just like I want a QBotF who’s going to stick around for more than few years at the end of their career, I want a HC who’s going to be here for more than a few years..
After Shotty we had:
Gunther 2 yrs
Vermeil 5 yrs
Edwards 3
Haley 2.5

I think you can make the argument, that Vermeil who was here the longest since Marty, came in with a QB and a vision and stuck around for more than 3 years because he had a QB he could run with. Although Vermeil’s D’s sucked…
Gunther had Grbac
Edwards had Huard and Thiggy
Haley had Cassel
None of those guys are long term solutions!

yeah, shame Vermeil couldn't envision a defense
and this is why

I dont see RAC becoming our hc, I mean how many more years is he going to coach, hes what 65, unless they make him hc and whomever they bring in for oc is the coach in waiting, I would just like to see a coach here for more then 3 years

5 yrs of Crennel would be a good thing in my book
if he coaches us for 5+ years

then I have no problem with him being our HC, I’m just tired of changing coaches and systems every 2-3 years, same with qb’s

Couldn't agree more.
I'd be ok with 5 or 6 years if he can pull it off.
Not many coaches last longer than that anyway.
Going back to the Elite conversation,

If you have an elite coach who has tied his horse to the elite QB, then they do.
I don’t see Payton, McCarthy or Tomlin leaving their respective teams anytime soo.
Nor do I see Coughlin or Belicheck who have been around longer than 5 on each of their respective teams.
So with the right coach and the right QB….

But you are right

That’s 6 coaches out of 32 teams.

True dat.

Then there’s Gruden, who collected QBs like they were trading cards, and a lot of people consider him elite.

but Chucky loves ALL players
no

he only loves them if they happen to be playing in the game that he is announcing that day

this guy?

that's the one :-)

talking about what a great coach he is … simple as Child’s Play

Heh. Heh. Heh.

nuff said :)

glad you got the
"point"

(my cutting wit)

ok, I’ll stop now

Jennifer Tilly is no child.

I'm speechless!
Then my work here is done. :)
Vermeil not only had JUST a QB he could run with

He struck gold with the PRIEST. Also didn’t help when Roaf and Shields were playing like GODS!

Also didn’t hurt when Roaf and Shields were playing like GODS!

Oops

Also didn’t help when Roaf and Shields were playing like GODS!

Agreed

Just saying that those teams with Huard and Thiggy, Grbac, wouldn’t have been the same. Mayyybe with Cassel, but Green had such better vision for the field, and a better long ball. He was accurate and dangerous. And we didn’t have any all pro wide receivers. Not including TGonz in that thought.

12 plus years

once you look at the time frame of the coaches we had Jeez been along time since the fun days of Marty

Yup. The game has pass him by even when he was HC in Dallas

C’mon Vinny? Drew Beldsoe? And he almost wanted to cut Tony Romo if it hadn’t been for Sean Payton wanting to keep Romo…

He is definitely 70 too old for any HC job

And would Parcells be able to have his son in law tell him what to do
I Put Not Sure

But was tempted to vote no since Carr & Bowe have not been locked up.

meh, it's early yet
never too early to sign proven talented players
on top of that

i think it will be harder to sign them, if they don’t know who will be running the team. Too much turmoil.

Martz: Tell McCluster to stand this far from Urlacher and he will catch the hailmary
'If you hire me as your OC...'

..I’ll kiss your ass like this’

thats martz refusing to give pioli vermeil phone number
Ahhhh, so it's times like this why we have a "Not Sure" option
thats martz saying i can't believe you one a game with palko
Generally approve

Locked up DJ,JC,Tamba,Flowers,Succop(laugh all ya want the dude carried us ALOT), got enough to lock up Bowe/Carr and do some damage in the offseason, brought in McClain,Breaston,Orton, fired the son of a bitch who single handedly tried to destroy our season. Not too shabby, let’s just hope he keeps the ball rollin!

Disapproved

Created a toxic team environment, Intrim coach was natural not genius selection..

do you think romeo got a better than 50% chance at getting the HC job

or will charlie weis leave kansas for the chiefs

weiss
weis
the man deserves 2 "s"
Ass has 2.

I’m just sayin’…

that's why weiss deserves 2 "s"
If that's the case, he needs three or four.

Weissss

just wondering, what exactly does pioli do?

besides writing paychecks

Pretty sure he doesn't write paychecks.
his secretary probably does
Or Clark
is that when he's on vacation or when he's somewhere other than KC?
He was of vacation during the season?

News to me

pioli was studying up on the right 53 formula on vacation
Sounds rational
he forgot to add QB
Didn't know Orton isn't a QB

Guess we should’ve just stuck with Palko huh?

we should have went with stanzi
because 5th rounders with no experience and no off-season practice time are always the best bet
considering that we're not in the playoffs. Why not?
We were still in it at the time we got Orton
considering had be defeated the Raiders we would have been in the playoffs ...

… that’s why not

you play to win the game … hello?

playoffs? playoffs?
TJ Yates did ok
Top run game, top defense

I would do good

texans..top defense???? LOL
4th in the league in pts allowed

that’s pretty significant since games are determined by … you know, points scored

that's because they're playig in a weak division

if manning was around, their D would be in the top 20

boy, stop!
let's see

indy, ten, and jac

play them 6 times a year

oh my blaine gabbert is so tough
matt hasselback is so tough
no peyton manning, oh my

they also BEAT Cin, Atl and Pitt
we had a chance to beat the pitts too

and guess what? under palko

So you think the 49'ers suck too?

Because they play the Rams, Cards and Seahawks?

Cause they have one of the top D’s this year too.

and watch them get their ass handed to them in the playoffs
THEY made it, WE didn't ...

any questions?

Oh so we're going to go by the assumed fact you can predict the future

why didn’t you put down nostradamus as you username

Right

Cuz 2 games against him would somehow do that. Gonna shit on a defense that was ballin cuz of the division, smooth

look at the rest of their division
Spin it however you want

Top D is top D is top D.

they're the 2010 chiefs

they’ll get their ass handed to them in the playoff

Playoffs are playoffs - it's anyone's game as we saw last year

And that wasn’t the point in question.

You were scoffing at them having a top defense in 2011 – which in fact they do/did have. You can’t look at the stats, which are facts, and just poo-poo it off because you don’t like it.

Nobody said having a top D was a guaranteed Championship game or Super Bowl appearance. KCinIL just said “Top D”. He didn’t say they were going to win the SB because they have a Top D.

Amen

I think your SF point kinda put his ridiculous argument to bed.

Yessir - climb out from under which rock you have been living...
  1. in overall D
  2. in pass D
  3. in rush D
  4. in sacks
  5. in scoring D

The only category they aren’t top 10 in is interceptions, where they hit #13.

So yes – top defense.

Jesus, stupid bullet points - that's not how this should look

2 in Overall D
3 in passing D
4 in rushing D
6 in sacks
4 in scoring D

the Texans overcame a LOT of injuries this year

RB, WR, QB … seriously, their injuries were as crucial as ours, they got it done, we didn’t … and yeah, they have a much better defense than people think

not to mention a much better OLine … that’s a very good, tough team

Wade Smith

Damn I wish we had em still!

It didn't hurt them to have AJ and Schaub
that's the deal, though

all those guys got hurt … including Foster … and they STILL did what they needed to do

Just think if we didn't run Palko out there

Over and over….god…I really hate Todd

I just am not sure who we would have run out there in his place?

Not that I’m apologizing for Haley. But initially who? Stanzi off his little time in the NFL? Maybe. Palko week one. That’s why we had him… Week 2? Ok maybe. We couldn’t have put Orton in much sooner and when he did go in. he got blown up.

I put my paycheck on the line

That Orton would’ve been good-to-go the game after Pit(especially with this playbook) hell he probably could’ve gone in that game the 2nd half and did better than that guy. I was at that game, I hated it. The Bears were tearing up our OL so we run him out there for a fle-flicking long route developing play, ridiculous.

Yeah I hear you.

Truth be told, he couldn’t have done any worse than Palko. And once he was in the system he was worlds better. Hell he made the team better b/c the D didn’t have to be out there for 55 minutes and the O line got better as well.

Thank god that experiments over

But damn, those games fuckin hurt!

They were straight up demoralizing.

I mean, after this season my whole take on a QBotF has changed. Not that I ever wanted us to Suck for Luck cuz of how badly that hurts the overall team’s growth. But… having a stellar QB changes so much.

so, Rodgers?
is a stellar QB

and his team plays like they know they will win. Cuz most of the time they will. Having faith in your QB to make plays makes you play better.

oh, I was hoping you were saying we'd get him ;-)
I wouldn't complain at all

But sure as shit not sure how that would happen. I think the constellations would have to align even more so than when they did in 06 and we fell into the playoffs.

Thier d hasn't played that good the last few games
Neither has Yates
He has gone 3-2 in 5 starts

not bad for a rookie

Not bad at all, but he hasn't been real good

It helps alot when you got a top run game and top D, all I’m sayin

I'm sure there is a stamp with a signature of someone that some secretary stamps on there.
Payroll department.
Makes personnel decisions
pioli teaches a class on how to communicate with the media without amswering questions
RAC is still working on it.

See his conversation about Carr

i like rac he tells it like it is from what i have seen
ditto. except pioli is rubbing off on RAC
yeah i know, phone line are probably tapped at arrowhead
they found out about Tarkus already?

damn, just when the good info was starting to trickle in …

Well, he would teach a class

except that would be giving away too much information.

btw who's playing tonight?
Clemson WV

In the who gives a shit attaboy bowl

is it sponsored by bank of america?
Knowing college football

Probably

That's NEXT monday.
Why would, or should, a GM ever obtain players without co-ordinating the needs with

the head coach. If you think about it, why would any coach be happy if your GM comes up to you and say, Hey, we just signed this guy, good luck. To me, this may be why there were problems with Haley and Pioli. The GM should discuss personal all the time with the coach and if the coach says he needs a certain player, the GM should be supportive and help go out and get that player (as with Breaston). I wonder if this would be Fisher’s problem right off the bat.

how dare you sound logically. This is the chiefs GM we're talking about here

don’t make me smack you

Fisher wants to be GM

And judging by all his misses in Ten he should be nowhere near 1 Arrowhead drive

Dude, Bud Adams was calling the shots in TN

If I remember right, Fisher wanted nothing to do with VY

He had alot of input if I remember right

And 1 person means nothing. The dudes a mediocre HC don’t know why people hype em up like he’s something special

What makes you think Haley was never consulted?

You think he had nothing to do with Breaston being signed? Baldwin being drafted? His boy Thomas Jones? Urban? Etc.

Right

And Im sure he got tired of telling Haley this Palko guy sucks and seeing Haley ignore em and continue to throw that waste of space out there

Agreed

I posted about the relationship between our HC’s over the last 15 years and their QB’s. I mean no wonder they last such short period’s of time here. Not defending either coach here, but saddling/expecting Gunther to win with Grbac, Edwards with Huard/Thiggy or Haley with Cassel on a long term basis is ridiculous.

who do u blame for the gaithers release then
Gaithers

did he come out and play better than anyone else when he was with us? if the answer is “no” then it’s really on him (my two cents)

probably because we never gave him the chance

1 snap. offsides. He’s gone.

and compare to how he’s with the chargers who gave him more chances: pro

the Chargers would have stuck a tree in at that position with the injuries they had
but compared him at LT for the chargers vs our LT. He's obviously better
no, he isn't "obviously better"
did you not watch Albert play this year

hes not better then Albert

I Used to NOT SURE

and DISAPPROVE (because of how much weight the Cassel deal made me loose faith in him)

I was leaning towards APPROVE (upon reading excerpts from War Room)
then Haley firing – after which I had no doubt: APPROVE

how do you loose faith?
Loose Faith

she’s been around the block way too many times. You need to lose her.

When Clark hired him, I started to believe KC was gonna finally make a big turn for the better

then when the Cassel deal happen… I started to doubt all the hype surrounding Pioli being an elite GM

SP needs to divorce Cassel

that’s the albatross around SP’s neck

Not sure

Had to fire the coach after 13 games. A lot of loose lips in the organization when things weren’t going so well. A serious lack of depth on the roster. We all knew it wasn’t there, just hoped and prayed the key stars would stay healthy, they didn’t.
Hopefully he’s learned from some of his mistakes because a lot of the problems in the organization shouldn’t be laid at Haley’s feet.

Everything said here perfectly describes why I voted "Disapprove".

Despite the vaunted tight-lipped New England way, they did plenty of talking out of the corners of their mouths. Pioli completely mishandled the Haley situation and I no longer trust him. But I don’t trust Hunt either.

CWW...this is mainly why I also went Not sure

Combined with some of the questionable FA signings at the end of the period….and a few oddball draft choices.

For me, the jury’s out…what Pioli does over the next few months will determine for me if he deserves an “approve”.

Ok, basing this off his recent moves.

1. Signed Orton
2. Released Gaither
3. Fired Haley

That’s 2 approves and 1 not sure for me. So overall, I approve.

The Chiefs had a bad year, but you cannot argue that Pioli wasn’t proactive. When he could make adjustments, he did so. I think that’s a very good sign, and those changes (Orton and Haley) almost got us into the playoffs.

The Chiefs had a bad year, but you cannot argue that Pioli wasn’t proactive.

That’s actually a very easy argument to make. How was he proactive? He waited until the “starting” QB was injured to get a competant back-up (and only after Orton happened to fall in his lap) and had shit for depth the entire season. He also kept Haley around after more than a few blow out losses. Isn’t that the definition of REactive?

No, reactive would be to wait until the end of the season and then address all of the concerns.

With 0 guarantees on getting a QB in the offseason, he was proactive by claiming Orton off of waivers (not to mention drafting Stanzi last year as well). He could have easily just demanded the team go with Stanzi as the starter, or even make Jason Whitlock’s dreams come true by giving Jeff George a shot. Getting the quality guy when he becomes available is being proactive.

Knowing that Haley wasn’t the right coach for the team, he fired him and gave Crennel a shot to show what he could do before entering the coaching hunt. He could have let Haley finish the season before starting a coach search. Giving a potential candidate an opportunity before having to make the real decision is being proactive.

That makes no sense. What does Orton have to do with the off season? He is a free agent. It was a direct REACTION to losing Cassel. How can you claim that going into the season with Tyler Palko as the back up is being proactive?

Approve only if

we lock up Thomas Jones for another few years and if we bring back Kelly Gregg and Sabby long term

Why do you hate Casey Wiegmann?

I’m ready for Casey and Ryan to move on. But I don’t hate B Rich nearly as much as everyone else around here.

Based on statistics for O-linemen, He is the worst in the league at his....
Sure... let's bring back Samie Parker and Bernard Pollard while we're at it.
Pollard was the last kick blocker we had...
How'd you make you reply go the other way?
Just a statement..

I wish we had that threat on special teams. Pollards downfall was his attitude, but he hit hard and would block a kick every once in a while.

I do hate Bernard Pollard for one reason and ONE REASON only

He was 100% responsible for bringing Matt Cassel to KC and I f***ing hate that

Haven't seen it that way, but your right...

I said it here along time ago..“the Grbac era” all over again. Bad thing is, it might not get any better….just a point, never a ringer.

The pick Joel selected would make an...........

interesting caption this

insert idiocracy pic here

“not sure”

How did he attain 75% in November for gosh sakes?
4-0 in October.

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