We wrote yesterday that the talk of Josh McDaniels going to the Kansas City Chiefs seems to have dried up. NFL Network's Michael Lombardi reported on Wednesday that McDaniels is not coming to KC in any capacity but now a report out of St. Louis suggests there could be more going on.
Inside a Q&A with other reporters, Bryan Burwell of the St. Louis Post Dispatch writes:

"A well-placed league source says both the Patriots and Chiefs have reached out to the Rams to seek permission to talk to McDaniels, but no word on if the Rams gave it."
The KC Star's Sam Mellinger previously reported that McDaniels has not and will not interview for the head coaching job. Offensive coordinator? Maybe, but that's a lateral move and the Rams would have to approve the discussions.
The Patriots lost Bill O'Brien, their offensive coordinator, to Penn State.
So let's think about this logically.
On the one hand, you have Lombardi, who has broken plenty of Chiefs news, saying this will not happen. He's been reliable in the past and he's clear in saying, "[H]e is not going to KC in any role."
On the other hand, you have a report out of St. Louis that calls McDaniels a "valuable commodity" and furthers the market for him by saying both the Chiefs and Patriots are interested and reaching out to him.
Hmm. Aren't coaching rumors fun?
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Maybe the Rams think so little of him that they're puffing him up themselves, hoping to get rid of him.
Conspiracy theory for that ass!
severn58 - January 6, 2012
Yep. Otherwise they have to pay him.
electriclight - January 6, 2012
Makes sense to me
Chief_Elmo - January 6, 2012
right here ... proof that it has to be fictitious, bogus, fabricated brom BS and smoke
upamtn - January 6, 2012
More likely, they are playing the "HC wants a new OC" odds
Jist like Haley and Chan. The “Chiefs” didn’t have a problem with Gaily and kept him around. Once they finally got Haley, the friction between the “old” and the “new” system grew until we released our OC, right before the season.
This could be nothing more than a signal to HC prospects that McDouche is not a “package deal” with the Rams, but you can keep him if you want him.
It’s a strategic communique.
juvatbull - January 6, 2012 via mobile
And yes...
I realize your comments above were sarcastic.
juvatbull - January 6, 2012 via mobile
From what I have been able to understand, McD is like Martz, an arrogant ass who doesn't
play well with others, but is very good as an offensive mind and coordinator. On the other hand he is young and learning and may be able to curb his opinions of himself and become a fine HC someday.
dubld - January 6, 2012
Which is why he managed the worst offense in the league.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
Beacuse he had so much to do with the complete lack of talent on that team
HIV 2 Elway - January 6, 2012
Bradford?
I mean yeah he had bad receivers and a shoddy o line, but a good QB can cover up some of that.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
maybe the scheme was just trash?
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
Not when he's running for his life
It was bad this year. Throw in Steven Jackson hurt all year, hard to judge em on this years squad
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
Maybe they were sacked more than any other team in the NFL
HIV 2 Elway - January 6, 2012
Bradford's a 2nd year quarterback.
He’s not Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning. He’s not going to make the hapless Rams look like The Greatest Show on Turf 2.0. Give it a rest. We get it, you want to have McHoodie’s Red and Gold baby.
“But, but… McHoodie was the last guy to be successful with both of our quarterbacks.” Wow. If that’s your sole argument for the guy, the Chiefs are in a very, VERY bad way.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
Sorry. That was not meant entirely for you. I'm tired.
2 week old at home. No sleepy.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
Vintage Peyton
couldn’t cover up that abomination of an offense.
SCKSChief - January 6, 2012
Though he also managed the best offense in the league, and the 6th best passing offense with a pretty bad Broncos roster.
m.yashi - January 6, 2012
Yeah, it's so obvious he's caused a trainwreck in St. Louis.
And how stupid are the people saying things like this?
“Depending on who ultimately becomes the head coach, McDaniels could be retained. Sam Bradford genuinely loves this offense. He has talked with several QBs and coaches who have run this offense and everyone tells him it takes two to three years to master it. Surprisingly, if given a choice between the west coast offense he learned as a rookie and the ‘Patriot’ offense he used this year, Bradford says he’d prefer McDaniels’ offense.
Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/round-two/will-mcdaniels-be-back-with-rams-in/article_f8fba558-37ca-11e1-b35d-0019bb30f31a.html#ixzz1igrtx6eE"
Obviously we know so much more than the people who actually work with McDaniels….
jmcgoblue - January 6, 2012
Just took an up and coming offense and now it's the worst in the league.
Just calls em like I sees ’em.
You want McDumbiels here? FIne. I don’t. Both places he’s been, the fans hate him. I talked to St. Louis fans on the Turf Show Times blog, and they want him gone.
When you refuse to call a Steven Jackson run for 7 plays on the goal line, there’s something wrong with you as an offensive play caller.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
What was the defense doing on those plays?
Are you sure Bradford didn’t audible out of running plays?
jmcgoblue - January 6, 2012
You can't blame the defense for this one.
They were on the sidelines.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
I mean the opposing defense
I really don’t know…I’m not familiar with the sequence you’re talking about, just being the devil’s advocate.
jmcgoblue - January 6, 2012
With Jackson, as he jumped around trying to get them to put him in.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
They hate him in Denver because he traded away the best players on the team
and I think the hate from everyone elsse is more of a carry over affect.
KingChief - January 6, 2012
Hmmmm, hire McD. Trade up fro the Dreadie. Dominate
HIV 2 Elway - January 6, 2012
Hopefully we get 7 chances on some of our goal line stands.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
Sounds like outr current GM, match made in Heavan
HIV 2 Elway - January 6, 2012
They don't want him
I think they are only keeping him around to see if anyone will give up any draft picks for him.
dustinw82 - January 6, 2012
That's not going to happen.
Nobody’s going to give up draft picks for McHoody.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
Gawd, I hope so
SCKSChief - January 6, 2012
Go home to the Patriots, Josh...
And stay the hell away from my football team.
Scott B. - January 6, 2012
I second this
Buck'O - January 6, 2012 via iPhone app
I third this.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
Motion carries
Hear that, Scott? We’ve carried the motion!!!
SCKSChief - January 6, 2012
Josh - I think you ass already left for Boston. GO . HURRY UP!
58 was my friend - January 6, 2012
Pats want him? Watch Pioli rush to sign him up
HIV 2 Elway - January 6, 2012
Please find the nearest piece of tree flesh and rap your knuckles on it a few times for good measure.
Pretty please.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
Yeah, I don't know why ANYONE would want McDaniels
I mean, why would you want to bring in an OC who has already gotten the best out of the top two quarterbacks on the team and who is familiar with both of them (and they with him).
Kansas City will be SO much better off bringing in someone new so everyone can start over again.
jmcgoblue - January 6, 2012
See, I kinda agree with this
The man can call some plays, when that’s his ONLY job to do. The only thing that really concerns me if he came here is how JC would be used in his offense.
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
It's the fact that we have JC that would lead me to prefer bringing Martz in instead of McD.
Martz has been able to do some nice things with RB’s, where McD, not so much.
Not that I see Martz coming in, but of the two I’d rather have him.
severn58 - January 6, 2012
No Martz
Bears fans up here rejoiced almost as much as when they found out Angelo was gone.
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
Although I'm not Martz' publicist, or biggest fan, from the outside I can see him getting a bad rap.
It’s not his fault the Bears deploy a glorified CB at WR, or still rock whatever a Roy Williams is. My point is that I think Martz could get more out of JC than Josh could, and this offense goes as JC goes.
I honestly don’t want either.
severn58 - January 6, 2012
I hear that
My big thing with him is these 7 step drops, no shotguns, and wants his TEs to block.
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
See the quote from the Post-Dispatch I posted above...
jmcgoblue - January 6, 2012
sorry, replied to the wrong comment here...
jmcgoblue - January 6, 2012
I watched most of the Rams games...
His play-calling is as bad as Muir’s.
Scott B. - January 6, 2012
Look what he had to work with
QB hurt all year, RB hurt all year, defense was fuckin terrible, OL was one of the worst in the league. I just take what he did this year with a grain of salt.
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
Good offensive coordinators learn to work around those kinds of weaknesses.
At least such that you aren’t the worst offense in the league.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
How do you work out of having your QB & star RB injured?
jmcgoblue - January 6, 2012
?
Jackson was my fantasy running back for a good bit of the year. He wasn’t injured most of the year.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
Didn't we have our QB and "star" RB injured?
McD gets a pass…but Muir doesn’t?
Scott B. - January 6, 2012
McD has several prior years of success as an OC
Muir doesn’t
And I have never said the offensive problems are Muir’s fault anyway.
jmcgoblue - January 6, 2012
Let Muir call plays for the Pat's...
And I’d bet that he would look semi-successful, anyway.
I don’t want Muir…don’t get me wrong. But, replacing dog shit with chicken shit is not my idea of improvement.
Scott B. - January 6, 2012
Exactly! Same people making excuses for McDoofus
are saying that in KC injuries don’t count and the only thing that matters is a young 1st round QB?
electriclight - January 6, 2012
They had more than their QB and RB
Their OL was terrible, their defense was terrible and I think they had like 10-11 people in the secondary on IR
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
And both starting offensive tackles.
Brsrkr - January 6, 2012
I would argue that...
Our OL was terrible, too…at times. And that our Defense was not exactly great at times, either. Although not as bad as the Rams. Can’t argue that.
But my point was, I watched all the Chiefs games…and most of the Rams games. And McD’s play-calling left me thinking WTF just as much as Muir’s did. Injuries and sucking aside.
Scott B. - January 6, 2012
Sorry
St. Louis was far worse than us at every aspect, it’s not even close.
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
Except their Offensive Coordinator?
Can’t agree on that.
Scott B. - January 6, 2012
I'll take McDaniels over Muir in a heartbeat
The dude attacks, Muir likes to punt. It’s not McDaniels fault as soon as the balls snapped half the defense is in the backfield. I had to watch alot of their games too, it was insane.
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
What teams did that?
When they’re defense was terrible BEFORE putting 10-11 guys on IR and your top 1-2 QBs go down, RB in and out of games, and a terrible OL. How can you fix that?
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
Their offense was terrible from day 1, with Bradford there.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
And before McDaniels got there
And I had Jackson on my team as well, the dude was banged up all year.
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
Right.
Oh wait…Orton had good games with Bill Muir as OC….hrmmm….
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
I've slowly come around on McDaniels
only because he will not be making any personnel decisions in KC. Therefore he won’t have the chance to trade away everyone
KingChief - January 6, 2012
But Nick Wright said so!
SwimCoach - January 6, 2012
He throws alot of shit at the wall
Somethings bound to stick!
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
Where were all the Wright bashers calling him a liar for reporting that Lewis had surgery?
He surely made that up to get ratings
HIV 2 Elway - January 6, 2012
i'm not a big fan of his show but he is by far
the most reliable person in our local media for chiefs information. it’s not even close
kcguy - January 6, 2012
u wish u had whitlock back
niageriannit1 - January 6, 2012
No
He just made up his “huge head-coaching announcement” yesterday to get rating. And yep, I fell for it!
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
So did I
Won’t happen again though.
jmcgoblue - January 6, 2012
And what was his "big" announcement
Oh Jeff Fisher wanted to come here, yada fuckin yada now he’s not cuz he hates Clark wants an owner who wants to win championships. And yet he’s choosing between STL and Miami. The guys good radio, he’s just a moron most of the time
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
I'll just wait for it to show up on AP next time
I don’t have much of an opinion one way or the other on the guy, but being strung along & teased for 30 minutes (when he said an announcement was coming AT 2:00) irritated the hell out of me.
jmcgoblue - January 6, 2012
What was the announcement?
I know he was running his game and Paul Westphal was fired. Did he say it was a Chiefs coaching announcement or was he vauge?
HIV 2 Elway - January 6, 2012
Think this was his tweet(don't have twitter someone put it in the fanshots)
“An infuriating #Chiefs coaching search update coming your way right at 2pm…”
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
His announcement was:
He feels as if Clark Hunt doesn’t want to win, and that Jeff Fischer probably feels that way too, ergo Fischer doesn’t want to come here.
I was expecting an actual objective announcement, not how he feels.
But I know you feel the same way…so…
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
These weren't HIS feelings. He was re-reporting this from another article/interview by someone else.
If you’re gonna bash the guy, at least do it properly.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
He agreed completely though
And that’s how he started his long rant about it
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
I agree with him too.
I think there’s enough evidence to make an argument for this. Is it true? I don’t know. But it does make you think. We should be a fanbase of thinkers… not blind and deaf zealots.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
That's crazy talk!
electriclight - January 6, 2012
Rational and logical are the new crazy.
So call me crazy.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
He clearly said his conclusion after reading that article was how he felt about the situation. I listened to the whole segment.
He read the article that said Fischer was looking for a team dedicated to winning (as if any team in this league doesn’t want to win; please). Ergo, the reason the interview “didn’t go well” (no evidence for that) is because he feels Hunt doesn’t want to win. Reading between the lines =/= real reporting.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
Every team in the league wants to win games...
Because winning games puts butts in seats. But if the Chiefs win 10 or 11 games a year, make the playoffs a few times, but never really go anywhere in the playoffs… are we still going to buy tickets and pay to see them? We’ve done it before.
At some point do you look at this team and say: “This is the definition of insanity. Continuing to watch this team, year after year, and expecting a different result.”
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
but why do you think
winning 10 or 11 games is going to put more people in the seats than winning a superbowl?
wouldn’t winning a superbowl put people in the seats for at LEAST a year after, if not more?
I just don’t buy the “doesn’t want to win” thing.
I would buy the “doesn’t know HOW to win” thing though.
fongKC - January 6, 2012
Because that's what it did for the Chiefs throughout the last decade under King Carl.
The Chiefs weren’t winning playoff games, but Arrowhead was packed every Sunday.
Only now do I think that maybe it won’t be enough to just win 10 or 11 games and maybe make the playoffs. Maybe the fanbase is getting sick of being a mediocre joke to the rest of the league.
And yes, you’re argument is valid. If they win the Super Bowl, they probably fill the stadium for TWO years afterwards. At minimum. As long as they don’t follow up with a 4-12 or 6-10 season.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
Carl splurged like he did toward the end because he was desperately trying to win another one for Lamar before he was gone.
Lamar did care about those non-money type things, having sunk his entire life into creating the AFL and making the NFL what it is today, and Carl cared about him.
Brsrkr - January 6, 2012
clark does care about winning...
soccer games
HIV 2 Elway - January 6, 2012
If he didn't care about the Chiefs, he wouldn't have hired Pioli and would probably sell the team.
All you’re doing is spouting this with no evidence.
Sure he wants to win soccer games. He owns those teams too. But you can’t tell me he can’t want to win both. What nonsense.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
I agree with you
Though Hunt does make himself an easy target when he’s spending 25% below the salary cap year-in and year-out.
jmcgoblue - January 6, 2012
I think what HIV is trying to express... which is what most of us are trying to express...
Is that we are an extremely frustrated fanbase. We’re frustrated by the losing season’s and one of the longest droughts without a playoff win. Not THE longest, but one of the longest.
It’s funny, but I think it was Parkins yesterday, who was talking about how your program measures success. He was referring to Kansas (I’ll refrain from any opinions), but he had a great point. Kansas hangs three types of banners. Big 12 championships, Final Four appearances, and National Championships. Nothing else. Not sweet sixteens. Not making the tournament.
This is the kind of mindset I want to SEE in the Chiefs. Anything less than an appearance in the AFC Championship game is a failure. Winning your division is great. But winning your conference should be the goal.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
Then the Patriots and 28 other teams are failures every year.
At this point, the team is improving. Hunt and Pioli just fired our ineffective coach because they want to win, even after they had said they want a Steelers like regime. They’re making moves trying to win. That’s what I see.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
It looks like that, yes...
But did they really give Haley a chance to win? Did Pioli give him what he wanted for the team? Or did Pioli give Haley what Pioli thought Haley needed for the team. Haley and Pioli obviously butted heads on what they wanted. Yes Haley got a few things (Berry and Breaston), but I’m not sure he got the best shot at building a winner.
Of course, then he just got stupid and started screwing things up on purpose at the end. Playing Palko? Best chance to win? Nobody believed you, Todd. NOBODY.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
Very difficult to succeed when your boss doesn't support you.
electriclight - January 6, 2012
When we sign Bowe and Carr to new contracts
Add up the amount of money the Chiefs spent to keep Charles, Bowe, Carr, Flowers, Hali, and DJ. Then we can discuss whether Hunt is spending enough money.
Frankly, I am glad we are in a financial situation where we can afford to keep our good players. Many teams struggle with that…
PVChiefsfan - January 6, 2012
Until they are signed...
This argument holds very little weight. I’m not convinced they sign both. I’m not convinced they’ll sign either until it happens. And I’m not convinced they’ll spend money… until they do. We’re still 25-30% below the cap. Our biggest expense lately has been on a placekicker.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
Well, since they have already spent a boatload on keeping a majority of the guys I listed the weight of the argument is fine. It is clear that Pioli and Hunt decided to keep cash on hand to sign players who demonstrated they helped the team win games
I have no problem with that.
Also, when you argue that they won’t sign Carr or Bowe you are arguing that the Chiefs will change from their current pattern. It is perfectly possible that they might, but the evidence suggests they will sign both.
Finally, the placekicker comment is nonsensical because it’s point is arbitrary…one day before they signed Succop the “biggest expense lately” was locking up our shutdown corner.
PVChiefsfan - January 6, 2012
no. he read an article that said fisher was choosing between miami and st louis
and that the thing that’s most important to fisher is having ownership who is totally committed to winning. nick wright deduced that since fisher isn’t coming to kc, it’s because kc’s ownership isn’t committed to winning. it was nick’s feeling that he was talking about but it was essentially adding 2 and 2 together to get it.
kcguy - January 6, 2012
How is KC not more committed to winning than Mia/Stl?
It makes no sense
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
those are nick's senitments
i don’t believe it. i’m just pointing out how he arrived at his “infuriating update in the chiefs coaching search”
kcguy - January 6, 2012
I more get the idea from a statement like that, that Fisher may want a big role in personnel decisions
And KC won’t really allow a HC to have that with Pioli. (Otherwise, really why have a “big time” GM if he’s not going to be making those calls).
Just speculation on my part – but if Fisher believes his vision for a team is the best one (and what self respecting HC wouldn’t think the same of their vision), then being told a GM will make most of the personnel decisions might make that coach feel the organization isn’t “committed to winning” just for not giving them free reign on personnel.
Doesn’t make it right. But it makes it understandable, and seems to be one realistic scenario that could explain the comments.
TRSChief - January 6, 2012
Nick Wright can't add :-)
upamtn - January 6, 2012
But he can infuriate.
Brsrkr - January 6, 2012
Who the heck is Nick Wright anyway
oh…when did addition and subtraction become a prerequisite for sportstalk radio
just saying ;)
58 was my friend - January 6, 2012
I listen tot he guy
mainly b/c he talks a lot of Chiefs. He just thinks too high of himself.
SwimCoach - January 6, 2012
He is great radio no doubt
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
If you like whiny voiced rat faced dudes.
Who sensationalize everything…great radio indeed.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
How are his looks remotely relevant?
Or are you just the kind of guy who also gets his jollies from calling Whitlock fat?
HIV 2 Elway - January 6, 2012
All I said was if that's your thing, it's good radio. He does have a face for radio.
What are you, his mom?
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
Who are you, Bob Fescoe?
You’ve got a lot of hate for this guy.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
Not really. I'm kind of joking here.
I just tire of his style of sensationalistic reporting.
I’ll try to tone it down. Sorry.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
isn't some of our sensationalism the same as his sensationalism?
upamtn - January 6, 2012
Yes.
I try to not be sensationalistic, but I’m sure I’m not perfect.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
That means HIS sensationalism is working perfectly.
Brsrkr - January 6, 2012
sensational! :-)
upamtn - January 6, 2012
If only I got paid for my sensationalism. =/
TRSChief - January 6, 2012
Really though, this isn't any worse than what some of the Hunt/Pioli haters do.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
As a current applicant for that group...
You’re probably right. There are a lot of people that hate and just get irrational about it. My reasons for disliking Hunt and Pioli are the way they are handling this team right now. I don’t get the feeling they are pushing to win a championship? I don’t need them to have the highest salary in football… but I want to see aggressive moves that indicate they are trying to win. I don’t want to see them bring in McDaniels, only to have to wait 3 years while the team learns the offense and basically wastes the talent we currently have.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
I can agree with you actually.
But I also know that sometimes the aggressive moves us fans want aren’t necessarily the best moves, or are too imprudent for a responsible manager to make. I just can’t hold it against them at this point. Not with some of the recent somewhat aggressive moves they have made.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
Do you also acknowledge that those aggressive moves might actually be for the best but the GM or Owner make mistakes or don’t always have the right considerations in mind?
It seems like many are quick to point out that we’re just fans and we don’t know the whole story, but slow to admit that the GM may be making a mistake or that they are considering something like keeping payroll low.
JComp11 - January 6, 2012
I think you just said
This makes me feel better about humanity :)
Brsrkr - January 6, 2012
I think there’s a difference between the “uninformed speculation” that you’re talking about and people not being convinced that every decision the GM and owner make is the best possible move.
JComp11 - January 6, 2012
Brsrkr - January 6, 2012
Whatever, H2E
You constantly call Cassel and other people names because they aren’t as good on the field as you want them to be. Sometimes you make good points, but you’re too hypocritical to be taken seriously overall.
old_school - January 6, 2012
Thanks, Dad
HIV 2 Elway - January 6, 2012
Way to deflect (it was well done)
But the dude nailed you.
How’s it fine for you to talk about Goodell being a “ginger” and Clark being a “nancy” but it’s not ok for others to bag on Wright being rat-faced (which hey, the dude kinda is)?
MNchiefsfan - January 6, 2012
But those ctricisms are relevant
Gingers have no soul, the lack of soul impacts Goodell’s job. He doens’t know what it feels like to be excited and maybe, Heavan forbid, do a touchdown dance.
Clark is a nancy boy and as a result is not taken seriously by the other owners. I can picture the owners meetings, “Sorry Clark, you’ll have to sit at the kiddie table.”
HIV 2 Elway - January 6, 2012
You do bring up a good point.
Gingers have no souls.
TRSChief - January 6, 2012
Not even the Ginger Bread Man?
Tarkus - January 6, 2012
Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and make a comment like this...
And TOTALLY redeem yourself!
MNchiefsfan - January 6, 2012
And another thing son, I found your "stash" under your bed, c'mon boy, that's rookie stuff!
What’s next, actually leaving the shit in the DVD player for your younger brother to accidently play by mistake, he’s too damn young for me to have to give him the “talk” already.
And your Mom was on the computer the other day, at least have the common sense to delete your cookies and history, as you and your stoner friends would say, “facepalm bro, total facepalm!”
severn58 - January 6, 2012
I'm not watching him on radio
I listen
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
Exactly.
I enjoy listening to him. Sometimes he’s a little overboard. Sometimes I get torqued about the way he bashes on his show assistants. And I get close to turning off the radio when he starts with the Lakers hate. But the guy keeps me entertained at work. And what he said yesterday about the Chiefs and the Jeff Fisher… that’s just disturbing because it might be true. He talked to Bill Maas on Monday and even Maas said there are some Chiefs alumni that have been talking about the way things are being run in KC and think Lamar would be pissed about it if he were still alive. This just extends that line of thinking. It might be sensationalistic…. but it might be TRUE. And that’s the more terrifying prospect. WHAT IF… Clark doesn’t care about winning championships? What if the ONLY thing he cares about is having a full stadium on Monday? He’ll have to field a “competitive” team, but that’s it. He’ll never be worried about the Super Bowl…. unless it’s potentially hosting one in KC. Wright was right. As a Chiefs fan, that depresses me.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
A lot of people get mad when there's change.
That’s what pisses me off. SO people don’t like how a business is being run? Tough! It’s not theirs! Clark can run it like he wants. Personell decisions aside, he got the most expensive GM out there, who has made a lot of changes in how things are run.
Kevin Harlan said that things had gotten too soft at Arrowhead under Lamar, and they were bleeding money (one thing was that they were printing EVERYTHING on expensive paper in color. Pioli put a stop to it.
Yeah, change is going to ruffle feathers. So what?
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
I'm okay with change in an organization.
I wrote several papers on this in my MBA program because I thought it was a fascinating topic. But the change should be accompanied by success.
This time next year, maybe we’re talking about how dominate the Chiefs will be in the Playoffs. Maybe it all starts to come together and we’re looking at being 6 point favorites to win in Wild Card weekend.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
you've forgotten what it was like when Lamar and 7 others first formed the AFL?
upamtn - January 6, 2012
I'm not old enough to remember that.
To what are you referring precisely?
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
Not sure what you mean.
Just saying what Harlan had said.
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
about losing money ... it's a different thing when billionaires lose a few bucks
when the AFL first started it was losing money … back then, of course, a million dollars was worth far more than it is now
at any rate, a friend of HL Hunt (Lamar’s father" said “aren’t you concerned? your son is losing a million dollars a year on that silyl team”
to which the old man replied “well then, he can only do this for the next hundred years”
upamtn - January 6, 2012
Ehhh, I kinda disagree
I don’t think any team doesnt WANT to win a SB, I think every team does(probably just me being cup half full kinda guy). And with the Fisher, maybe he was asking for too much money and/or control. And the Dolphins have come out and said they will not be outbid for him. It just doesn’t make sense if Fisher doesn’t wanna come here cuz we don’t have a good owner, but yet he’s deciding between STL and Miami. I disagree alot with Wright, but I listen. And he is NEVER boring
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
Yes and No
Winning a Super Bowl is the idea, but as long as it keeps the stadium full and you have a team able to keep the hope alive, you’ll fill the stadium enough to keep ticket/concession sales up. I mean, look at the salary cap space we have left! I hope they kept that kind of space this year so that next year when the salary cap rule is in effect that we put some money in to the right places!!!
JMagsKC1 - January 6, 2012
Without going a ''sensational" on you
I agree to an extent. Marty Schottenheimer refelected similar sentiments a couple days ago in an interview. He didn’t necessarily diss Clark Hunt, he just agreed that Clark is not Lamar and doesn’t expect him to be Lamar…in fact I think he said something along the lines of “you can’t change someone’s personality”. Others around the league talk, and I think the talk is surrounding how this organization is run now. I would imagine its a known around the league that our coach search will remain limited to a business model, not the advertised “Steeler’s Model” in which consistency and long term success are the primary goals…and business booms along with that when you’re winning. If you remember, in Lamar’s late days, he allowed King Carl to do just this…fill the stadium and keep it exciting (which I liked) though winning wasn’t as much of a priority as filling the stadium.
JMagsKC1 - January 6, 2012
?
After Marty said he held clark in high regard you mean?
Come on. You’re HIV sockpuppeting, aren’t you?
bossmanham - January 6, 2012
You missed my point
He wasn’t dissing him, but he did throw in the part that you can’t expect him to be like his father, Lamar. This organization will be run differently. That’s the point I was clearly making. It doesn’t mean he has any disrespect for him. However, it does go to say that this Chiefs regime has a blatant reputation, that’s an obvious. The details that lead to that reputation are floated around the NFL, which I’m not part of so I’m not saying I know anything you don’t. However, you’re HIV sockpuppeting my comment ironically.
JMagsKC1 - January 6, 2012
well, there's your problem ... maybe you need glasses?
upamtn - January 6, 2012
lol
Touche
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
Well, I have no problem watching him on the radio ...
I just can’t hear him??? Do I need a hearing aid?
LocoLoboChico - January 6, 2012
I said it yesterday...
And I’ll say it again, I won’t be shocked to hear that something is in the works with McHoodie. I mentioned that the NFL is often paired with cronyism and this is exactly the case. Until a head coach and OC are hired, not named Josh McDaniels, will I finally believe he won’t be a part of our organization
JMagsKC1 - January 6, 2012
That said
I can’t say I wouldn’t be interested in the least to see what he could do with our offense if, and I repeat if, he happens to be hired as OC. Not my first choice though I can’t say I’d turn my back if he was brought in for that role only.
JMagsKC1 - January 6, 2012
Jeff Fusher
FrankPitts - January 6, 2012 via mobile
Fursher
ARROWHEADSHANE - January 6, 2012
He related to Uric Burry?
KCinIL - January 6, 2012
Farscher
severn58 - January 6, 2012
His Farjur?
Farjur is Dad, Dad is Farjur.
Falcon58 - January 6, 2012
PFT
is reporting that the Chiefs asked permission (maybe based on the same source).
on a side note, does any other PFT comment reader hate joetoronto as much as me? :D
fongKC - January 6, 2012
I hate most PFT commenters.
Too difficult to single one out.
Tarkus - January 6, 2012
the funny thing is ... should McHoodie even be interviewed people will say "Pioli is just doing his due diligence"
upamtn - January 6, 2012
I would tell Pioli to go ahead and interview Mickey D too.
With Pioli’s leg resting inside the jaws of a Grizzly bear trap under the table … and me sitting right beside him, whilst resting my cane on the trigger. :+)
LocoLoboChico - January 6, 2012
McDaniels= sign him up
Knows how to change Cassel’s diapers
ArrowDread - January 6, 2012
I'm so not exicted for next season
Chiefs3188 - January 6, 2012
I'd like to have McD but there has got to be
other really good choices aside from unlikely McD and McCoy
FrankPitts - January 6, 2012 via mobile
Jeff Fisher had like 6 winning years in 14 what's so great
FrankPitts - January 6, 2012 via mobile
insert
“But he was 8-8 a lot too” comments
SwimCoach - January 6, 2012
And we all love 8-8 seasons don't we?
jmcgoblue - January 6, 2012
Power 'stache!
ArrowDread - January 6, 2012
You misspelled 16.
Tarkus - January 6, 2012
No he didn't!
All he did was give his opinion. All of his comments were given the “I think” or “I don’t think” disclaimers. He wasn’t reporting anything.
Tarkus - January 6, 2012
Nooooooooooooooooo!
aFan4Life - January 6, 2012
I mean..
with the Rams offense SOOO explosive this past season, I can see how a hot commodity he would be.
/EndSarcasm
Scott Anthony Morris - January 6, 2012
You better NOT!!!!!
TheChefs82 - January 7, 2012
You Better Not!!!!
Personally I am not exactly sure what I would do with myself if the Chiefs hired a dud like McDaniels, this guy has no business being any part of Kansas City Chief football. Mr. Pioli, sign him and you sign your exit papers…..
TheChefs82 - January 7, 2012
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