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Falcons Vs. Giants 2012: Wild Card Weekend Open Thread

As Joel noted earlier this morning, the NFL has two playoff games on tap for you today. The first game features the Atlanta Falcons against the New York Giants. The game kicks off at 1 p.m. ET from Giants Stadium. That will be followed up by Broncos-Steelers at 4:30 p.m. ET.

This is your open thread for the first game. Make sure you vote in our poll and let us know who you pick to win in this game and why.

Poll
Who's going to win today?
Falcons
76 votes
Giants
354 votes

430 votes | Poll has closed

0 recs  |  310 comments

Comments

Eli > Ice

Giants > Falcons (especially in NY)

yah, that was my pick ...
Picking Falcons

Color me sentimental, but since Tony G. is on the Falcons, I’m going with them.

Giants are probably the better team though…

Going the Falcons...

They read a stat during the beginning of the game, Tony G has NEVER won a playoff game in his career…. that sucks and I feel for Tony.

Rooting for the Falcons to make it all the way for Tony G. If anyone deserves it, it’s Tony.

I hope he never does win one.
Braves up on the Mets, 2-0.
huge lead, I tellya
Tying run is always on deck, though.
And now the go ahead run is coming to the plate.

Mets could take a 3-2 lead.

Or the Mets could strike out here and leave 2 on base.

Nah. That one doesn’t work.

They could bat around here.

And take a 7-2 lead.

And done.

Hey ups, I can be in this thread, right?

Loving the defense.

I know, huh! totall opposite of last night's game
There we go! Open Thread on the FP now!
Thormans finally returned from the holidays? ;)
I think Chris was just trying to keep the riff raff out.

But you and ups found it anyway.

He forgot to hide it from the RSS feed.

I don’t look at the front page much.

This is a GooD Game so far.

Hopefully it doesn’t become Bungels & Texans again lol

The Giants DL is perpetually scary.
That sack was nasty! I haven't seen a collapse

Like that on the o line in a while.

I like giants in this one.

I do feel for Tony but once he signed that deal with ATL next year I don’t anymore. Here’s to hoping Tony never wins a playoff game unless it’s with KC :)

I wouldnt allow him back in KC.

He’s dead to me.

"Really good timeout called by Tom Coughlin"

We’re praising blatantly obvious decisions, now?

Eli Manning has the worst body language

of any successful QB ever.

Finally

Been trying to login for the past few months and didn’t wanna create a new email…long time reader , first time posting …good defensive game so far …I’m from nj so can’t stand the giants

My god, Atlanta didn't want points there.
Did I see happy feet on Matty Ice?
what do u think of the rumor gary gibbs being the chiefs DC
I like it.

Defense should keep rolling right along.

I approve.!
a college guy

who got run out of new orleans in his only NFL DC stint? sign me up!

didn't gibbs coach at oklahoma
And once part of the Bee Gees, I think.
Think a HC announcement will come tomorrow?

I predict Tuesday it becomes official.

how about marty possibly getting the bucs job
RAC City >MartyBall
tony g and mike cox=go falcons
mchoodie to NE

i bet u slept well when u heard that

I'm not a Patriots fan, so no.
i ment that mchoodie wasn't coming to kc instead NE
I think he'd have been a good fit in KC.

As an OC.

i heard brady quinn might get to play for the donkeys today
IOW, Fox would like to win.
Giants defense just gets good when they hit January.

And as I say that, JPP goes down hurt.

long fly ball ... just foul
Sorry Tony

Looks like you had just as good a chance of winning in KC as ya do in Atlanta

Probably wishes his dream of playing for the Giants had come true.
I used to feel bad for em

Still kinda do, mixed in with a little laughter now. Got GB,Giants,SF, Brees and Cam in his division. Ouch!

I don't.

Never did. He wanted to leave the Chiefs, so I’m not sure why I should continue to root for him on another team that I don’t like.

Yeah I hear ya

I kinda understood at the time, with us starting from scratch, but he really did make a terrible decision. He will never sniff the SB in that conference.

It just feels like Eli is going to burn the Falcons at some point, doesn't it?

Matt Ryan doesn’t look like he’s got a whole lot right now.

and the Mets with a 3-Run Homer ...

pouring it on with a huge 8 run lead over the Braves :-)

Braves pitching is usually better than this.
Ha!

John Fox: "We expect our starters to play well, and our backups to be ready"

Brady Quinn to come in on 3rd downs

Over/Under on possessions till that happens. I got 2!

That's funny.

Considering they never throw the ball on first and second down.

broncos throw the ball?
Yeah, they even complete 48% of them.
hot damn

is that higher than the chiefs?

Ha, what's funny about that

NOPE!

Yep

That’s why I see the first possession run run run punt then get creamed next possession and in comes Quinn cuz the boos will be too much for poor old Timmy. I fuckin hope upon hope the Steelers just destroy this dude. Fuckin sick of the camera cuts to him praying. B-Dawkins and Warner we just as big in faith as him and they NEVER showed them doin that shit. And by the way I never watched college ball did he do all this shit at Florida too?

he wrote bible verses on his face at florida

he’d get fined in the NFL for that. not hardcore enough to do it.

But I mean did he do the kneeling and praying on the field too?
probably

i stopped watching florida once the coverage of him became so over the top.

translation: we expect to lose bigtime
No.

Translation: I expect to Tebow to suck, so Quinn better be ready.

If he wasn't a donkey, I might feel bad for him.

They’ve dicked him around a bit.

cause elway hates him

he would be more suited with a running team

he'd be better suited

as a backup

FB?
sure

he’s holding denver back, so i hope he stays for decades.

That's one way of looking at it.

Another way, is that he should have never even seen the field, based on ability alone. So I think he’s way ahead of where he should be.

he was good in florida but they ran a different offense compared to fox's offense

but he should have never joined denver

That's true, too.

It would be so much better if the media wasn’t all over his nuts.

hmm..anybody else think that matt ryan is overrated much?
Always have.
As a "franchise" guy hell yes

I’m so sick of hearing the term “franchise QB”. It’s Peyton, Brady, Rodgers and Brees.

what exactly is a franchise QB

I never quite understood that

i think the Giants feel good about Eli

as their franchise QB

Yeah I could agree to that
he's in Tier Two of franchise guys

maybe Rivers is there with him

You misspelled $cam
Give em a few more years I really could see it
i'd say one more year and he is there

wouldn’t be shocked to see the panthers in the playoffs next season. bowe to carolina makes sense if he wants to leave.

Yep. always have.

Especially on the road.

that atlanta coach should be fired

2nd q, 4th and 1, kick and now you’re losing

Second time Ryan has turtled to avoid taking a hit.

What a panzy.

Giants D line is FIERCE!!!
Good thing they paid Turner all that money
I bet Atlanta is wishing they had just signed Harvey Dahl to whatever money he wanted now.
Wow
How do they have a line of 4 guys in front of him and they still all miss him.
the falcons aren't that good

they are in a crappy spot. good enough to get to the playoffs, not good enough to do anything once they get there. their D is just not dynamic at all.

They just don't seem to improve.

This looks like the same team as last year in the playoffs and the year before. It doesn’t help that you trade 3/4 of your draft for a #2 WR but still.

and....it's over

have fun at the SB tony G you traitor

dead birds out there now
more like fish

btw this was in norway during new year fyi
we can pickle that
Is that a red herring?
not sure, just reading some news

apparently thousands of birds, cows, fishes, etc died during new year

some claimed fireworks but I suspect otherwise

Like those birds and fish in mississippi last year.

Weird.

here's my argument

if fireworks causes dead fish/birds, why did it only occur last year and this year?

why wouldn’t it happen every year since the creation of firecrackers

What was really odd in Mississippi(and maybe because it was Mississippi)

Is they gave a lame reason and it was a “might be” and then that was the end of it. No more investigating or publicity. It was just over.

science hates things that it can't explain
religion loves them
indeed

2 sides of the same coin

news

Depending on what news article you read… a lot of them left out details about the dead birds to give more hype to the ‘End Of The World’ coming. A bunch of rednecks shot fireworks into a blackbird nest, causing them to flee. They found about 100 dead in the nest. Blackbirds have very poor night vision. Almost 5000 died this New Years… they probably just flew into each other.

p.s.

Fireworks have been banned in the area after this years incident.

PORTLANDIA!
i'm charring ice for a cocktail right now

i had rotten bananas, so why not?

Tony Gonzalez "Why the hell did I sign that extension again?"
because that's a SB team
Straight Bullshit team!
if I knew how to rec, I would do it
Tony Gonzalez best player to never win a playoff game.
maybe....

but skip will probably tell you it’s tebow

I don't get it

I know the giants just scored …but on that 4th down why wasn’t there anyone on the backfield? Giants knew it was a qb sneak so it was easy to defend…now I won’t stop hearing giants fan say how great their team is…fact is atl coaching staff is sucking this game

becuase the falcon coach is an idiot
Giants are pretty damn good
Giants have a good Defense ...
Giants have a good defensive line.

The rest is pretty average.

Nicks Cruz and Manningham average?

Eli average?

"Giants have a good Defense ... "
Ah

Thought you meant that’s all they had lol

Noper

Eli has made me a believer this year. Their WRs are sick too. Imagine what this team could do with an oline.

Believe it or not theres been people around here that want their OC
how old is gonzo now
65 he's eligible for social security
He's 0

in playoff win years.

And it's not like he's doing anything to help change that.
Gonzo gets another playoff loss.
that's an NFL record
maybe 2 more years left for gonzo
Great throw
yeah it was, good call ... Falcons D is worn out and then some
sounds like the chiefs
Peyton should be SO proud of little brother
I have two bills riding on the Falcons scoring no more then 10 points.
Fitzpatrick and who else?
So...if peyton comes to KC

will it be 2013 Chiefs vs Giants?

He's staying a Colt
until the colts don't pay him the 28 mill
They're going to
I don't think so

maybe trade or release him

You really think they're just gonna cut the greatest QB of our time

And he’s already came out and said he’s not going anywhere. Don’t know why people keep thinking he’s outta just cuz he was out all season.

will see what happens when its time to pay the 28 mill

they paid 20 mill for this past season, owe 28 mill bonus due in march, plus another 7 mill on his contract, and the colts haven’t thrown any money at luck yet.

And

They got the money to do both. #1 pick doesn’t cost as high as it used to. The guys come out and said Peyton Manning is going nowhere, so I’m sure he knows how much he’s owed and will pay it. It’s Peyton fuckin Manning!

they got alot of free agents on that roster coming up this year
And you think they'd rather keep them than the man who built that franchise

Come on. He will be a Colt until he retires

which might be this offseason

who knows with that injury.

They keep saying he should be good to go

They said if he played LB or something it would be tough but at QB he should be ok. But I agree, I’m just saying he’s gonna be a Colt or retired. Theres no way they let him go to another team.

I think he'll be a Colt as well
no i'm saying they got alot of money tied up on one guy

I think manning is great, but at some point u got to do whats right for the colts. I think the colts best move right now is to try to trade manning for picks. They are iin rebuild mode now.

luck won't be that expensive

about 5.5M

Huh?
compared to #1 picks in the past

bradford got 13M a year

Cam Newton's signing bonus was $14,518,000
i thought they had phased out signing bonuses for rookies

so, 36.5M guaranteed for Newton vs 50M for Bradford. still a difference, but not as huge as I thought.

That's why some think Manning will be released.

I could see it going either way, but Luck would be a very expensive backup to a very expensive starter.

yeah, the signing bonus changes my thinking a little bit

still think they can afford it for a season, but not sure there is much of a point.

Other then the NO/DET for one 1/2 none of these playoff games have really been very close.
tebow vs steelers will be a close game

some guy who can’t throw the ball vs some guy who can’t walk

My money is on the guy who can’t walk

You could probably blindfold the no walking guy and still beat a no throwing guy.
You mean

one guy who walks on water vs. some guy who can’t walk on grass.

I say brady quinn plays before the end of the first half
Not much of a limb there.
Another playoff game for Tony G. Another typical playoff performance 2 catches and 19 yards.

The man is the best at his craft during the regular season but just another body on the field in the playoffs.

Exactly

His best playoff game is something like 60 yards and a pushoff in the endzone costing his team any chance of winning.

Oh, but "nobody deserves a SB more than him."
My consolation prize of the Chiefs not making the playoffs is watching him lose in the playoffs.
yea during his post game comments maybe he will say "hopefully they clear house and I am part of it" like he did with us.

He doesn’t deserve jack swat!

deion branch plays defense?
Why the hell are they punting?
cause they actually think they can win....

denial ain’t just a river in Egypt

This is the same bullshit from Atlanta that cost me my FF win.

Punting down by 22 with 9 minutes left? I lost my FF championship by 2 points because Atlanta thought they should kick FGs with 10 minutes down by 20+ to New Orleans.

Atlanta might want to work on tackling at their first OTA.

And angles to the ball at their second.

oh atlanta

different year, same story. maybe they should’ve waited to trade their drafts for a QB.

how many pass completions for tebow today more than 10

to the donkeys wr

i saw 15 total

10 to rb/te 5 to wr

oops say* not saw lol
To WRs?

5 or less.

Turner turned in a very LJesque 2.7 ypc today.
Scrutinize the 4th downs all you want.

This offense just sucked today and they didn’t lose because they didn’t kick a couple FGs.

team just put way too much faith in where they thought they were

no 1st round pick for them this offseason is brutal

I guess our new oc isn't coming from atlanta
Their OC might be availabe after this mess.
do we want another incompetent OC?
Ummmm

No. Although that fourth down play looked like a play that Muir was drawing up but fell asleep before he could finish it.

falcon OC:

ok guys all of you get in the middle and push forward. I mean not like the defense will be prepared for this

the donkeys will play quinn

early and offen

I hope so

that way they’ll lose all their season ticket holder

von miller here we come

anybody find it strange...

that they’re called the “new york giants” but they play in New Jersey..

I thought they were called

the New York Football Giants.

At least that’s what idiots on TV always call them.

That's a relic from a previous error when the New York Baseball Giants were the more famous team
I know.

But it’s annoying in 2012.

meh

they’re about 3 miles from manhattan

That's because the land in NYC is too expensive to build a staduim on. They is why they build skyscrapers. The current location is old wasteland.
I would go with quinn to start if i was the donkeys coach
You have to start Tebow and let him fail miserably so you can convince the fans that you need a new QB

Or they’ll crucify Elway and friends.

i dont think how tebow performs

really matters to his supporters. it’s very odd trying to talk to people who love him.

can't blame them

they had orton who parties all the time

vs

tebow who does charities, heal the sick, and kill evil on a 24/7 basis

orton might want to cut down on the partying

dude looks rough.

can't blame him

Hey baby I’m a QB, now get in my bed

Worked for Croyle

once.

i hope orton parties in kc this year

need to sign orton

not long term

one year i could live with.

Which is why as Chiefs fans you want this game to finish 23-20 Steelers

With Tebow going 20/30 for 200 yards and a TD and no turnovers.

I should, but I just can't.
I am hoping for a 55-0 Steelers win.
who's on your fantasy team
so does one series full fill your requirement for tebow
"Looking forward to a date with Ryan Grant and the Packers"?
screw rodgers

it’s all grant

Even Aikman was like "WTF?"
That is NOT Unnecessary Roughness.
the falcons making the playoffs is unnecessary treatment of the american public

i’m hoping the panthers pass them by next year

Giants

Giants are overrated IMo but most of u seem to think they’re really good. Their o line is ok , d line is, db’s are below avg, qb is very good and wr’s r very good…they’re a good team but not as good as they appear today…I watch them play all the time as I’m from nj and if they didn’t win that super bowl coughlin would’ve been gone a long time ago.

they're good against scrubs (atlanta)

let’s see them face packers/saints

they're a tough team

almost beat the packers once, they’ve got a shot next week. inconsistent team, but they get up for the playoffs.

Defense is peaking. I don't think they can win 2 road games in a row to get to the Super Bowl but I think the Packers should be concerned.
punt with 10 minutes to go

but lets score down 22 with a minute to go guys!

You know how everyone was all up in arms one game when cassel had a really low ypa?

Don’t look now, but Ryan has a pretty low one now.

they traded vick for ryan

nice going HC

kind of had to do that

vick isn’t elite either anyway

He's at 4 right now.
I believe most were saying Ryan was incredibly overrated up above.

I saw no defenders.

LOL @ Tony G

You could have not won playoff games in KC

i hope he goes into the HoF as a falcon

no reason to have a chiefs uniform on an embarrassment

An embarrassment?

I’m not cheering for him to pull off playoff victories, but the guy is the best TE to play the game. How the hell is that an embarrassment?

the fact that he left the chiefs to die and fend for ourselves?

yea let’s welcome him with open arms

hell even priest holmes, broken neck and all tried to win us games

tony G: yea ya suck so I’m going to atlanta. See ya bitches

He left us to die?

You mean, he left when we were starting over YET ANOTHER rebuild? And left at at time when we could get something for him still?

The guy holds no ill will towards KC. I don’t see why we should be chastising him. It’s a business, too.

i have no problem with the guy

he wanted to work for a new company, whatever. not like he dogged it when he was in KC.

True story

Dude always played hard.

I hope he comes back. Him and Moeaki would be legit and give us tons of options.

no gonzo goes in as a chief
NFL players don't go in as any team.
Osi took the tackle with him!
This game is an excellent example of D beating O

Despite the new idea that ALL that matters is offense…

This is why a team without an elite QB can win SB’s…

Surely you're not talking about Eli?

Eli Manning is damn near elite if he’s not already.

What I mean is Rodgers/Brady/Brees elite

Which he’s not.

He’s very good though. My main point is defense can still win games, contrary to popular belief.

Well, I'd put Eli and Stafford directly behind those three.

Still meaning they’ve got one of the NFL’s best QB’s. Defense can still win games, yes, but if they go far, they’re going to need both.

Are they that good

Or surrounded by good tools?

Stafford’s got Megatron, Eli’s got a very good, deep receiving corps…

I dunno, I’m not sure I’d put either of them above Cutler or Schaub or Newton or Dalton or any other of a half dozen or so QBs…

But yeah, you can’t have a bad or average QB if you want to go far.

exactly those are not one man teams but very experienced deep teams
you mean you DON'T think the Broncos will win today?

I’m stunned …

Newton and Dalton are still too young to make that comparison in my opinion.

Schaub has Johnson, so he falls into the Stafford and Eli part of your argument. Cutler is…hrm…difficult for me.

I still think Eli’s in the top six, as is Stafford…at least in my rankings.

Eli that high?

top 10 yeah … but top 6?

yeah its the top 3 and then everyone else depending on who you surround them with

continuity and supporting cast can easily push a QB up the rankings

Brees, Rodgers, Brady.

Top three, for sure. You want to throw a healthy Peyton in there, I’m fine with it. After that, there’s a pack of guys that are similar. I think Stafford and Eli lead that pack of guys.

yah, Stafford's really getting into that elite territory fast
Hopefully for Stafford he finally stays healthy
It's at least arguable, so I hear what you're saying

Although I’d take Cam over him any day. But that’s mostly based off potential…

well, this puts me 3 for 3 so far ...
Lemme guess...you took the Tebows.
don't even DREAM it
Careful.

We don’t want you to sprain your arm.

hey, gotta reach that cookie, yanno ;)
Careful now

All 3 divisional winners won their games. Only wild card left is the Steelers

funny, that's the only one I took ... imagine that

a lot of people picked the Bengals … some took the Texans put also picked the Falcons in this game (with their high-flying offense, you know)

Falcon soar

but they laid an egg this time.

Like my exceptional humor?

Prediction:

PIT: 27
DEN: 17

So you expect Brady Quinn to play a lot?
haha

him or Charlie Batch

Bubby Brister now!
espn just said irsay and manning will make a joint decision on manning future

for what ever that is worth

not a surprise there
Yeah, I kind of expect that if he's retiring or leaving, they're going to make it as cordial as possible.
wonder if Irsay would, at this point, PREFER him to go
I don't know about "prefer".

But they have to get Luck. And that means Peyton doesn’t get the help he will need with his supporting cast.

that and, if you believe what Archie said, Peyton doesn't want to have anything to do with Luck ...

words to that effect

Until he backtracked the next day.
spin control, eh ... missed that bit
This.

They have too many holes to keep both. And it’s pointless to keep Manning around for 1 year, if Luck will even sit that long. Might as well move Manning.

Sounds like they're going to have a Pioli-Waters type release.
I just got this sinking feeling that Cassel is going to be the starting QB next year

and Stanzi is still third string

the first part is enough for a sinking feeling
That's just the prunes you ate for lunch.
which is YOUR fault for not sharing those cookies!
It's going to be really hard for me to watch if Cassel is our starting QB
me, too

Palko must be gone, and we need another QB on the roster. I don’t care who it is… Orton, draft pick, whatever, but Cassel with an as of yet untested Stanzi is not a good plan.

If Stanzi is still third string

it will be Stanzi’s own fault. RAC seems determined to give him his shot.

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