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Why draft a LT when we need a RT?

Quality RT prospects from the 1st to the 3rd round it looks like

quality RT is the question

I would like to draft a day-one-starting-calibur OT… I’m not 100% sure that there is such a guy in the 2nd/3rd

KansasCityShuffle - February 13, 2012 reply

i approve this message

RT has to be a priority, and there isn’t one to get excited about in FA, IMHO

I loves me some DeCastro, but I won’t hesitate to applaud Martin if he’s the pick. Would be nice to have the RT question answered day One of the draft, then move on from there.

I don’t think KC gets Nicks in FA, but they could get Grubbs… and that’d make a formidable line

Albert-Grubbs-Hudson-Asamoah-Martin
With possibly Lilja and Mims/BRich for depth

stagdsp - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

Ohio State beef > Stanford beef

Kwame Harris anyone?

If Blackmon falls that far, do you make a move for him?

And try to fix the OL in the later rounds/free agency?

Chief Farmer - February 13, 2012 reply

No.

chief Stevie_k - February 13, 2012 reply

agreed

No way a WR should be picked in the first 5 rounds this year for KC

stagdsp - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

disagree, if the kid has top 2 or 3 talent.

would you not draft Megatron if he was sitting there? If Blackmon has anywhere near that kind of talent, you have to seriously, seriously contemplate the move.

Or you could let someone go all ATL

and give you all their picks so that they can draft him.

exactly

we’re not Detroit

Yeah you would look at Megatron, if you lose Bowe

However Blackmon is nothing like Megatron. Shorter slower WR.. much more like Dez who is a beast AFTER catching the ball

You know, if Bowe leaves and he falls to us, I wouldn't hate the pick at all

But I don’t see him falling that far, and I wouldn’t “make a move” to go up and get him

severn58 - February 13, 2012 reply

Im not that impressed with Blackmon

Everytime I look at him I see Crabtree

what? I see a better anquan boldin when I see blackmon.

kc-twitch - February 13, 2012 reply

From what i hear, he’s megatron jr. No way he falls unless he’s smoking the happy weed.

kc571 - February 13, 2012 reply

not as big as megatron, megatron Jr. is named DGB. he plays for mizzou.

kc-twitch - February 13, 2012 reply

will soon anyways

available for the Chiefs in 2015 :)

Not as big, not as fast, not as good hands, not as good of a leaper

no reason to bring his leprosy into the discussion

NigerianNightmare - February 13, 2012 reply

Isn't he more of a finesse guy?

Everything I’ve read on this guy is that he’s solely a LT, and basically is too light in the caboose to hold down the right side, NTTATWWT.

severn58 - February 13, 2012 reply

he's a litte light

Could get stronger for sure.

That being said, he’s talented and athletic and a sure upgrade at the biggest position of need…

stagdsp - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

He may need to put on some weight, but he's no finesse guy.

He’s a mauler.

While perhaps not quite the athlete of top-10 pick Matt Kalil, Martin is above-average physically and looks completely natural and comfortable playing left tackle. While I hate to use the term "finesse" for any offensive lineman, Martin’s game is more about agility, technique, and quickness than power. If he decides to declare, Martin should hear his name called in the top-20 picks of the NFL Draft.

http://draftbreakdown.com/13531

and Kalil weighs in at a staggering 290 some lbs

good point

both finesse guys, in the grand scheme of things

and we do want our RT to blow DE's of the line of scrimmage

not dance with em :)

You can dance if you want to

TheValleybetterthanPAC12 - February 13, 2012 reply

You can leave your friends behind

severn58 - February 13, 2012 reply

S-A-F-E-T-Y

dance, dance, dance

Yep

We should get another safety at 11-12

We did good there last time

yes and no

assuming they stick with ZBS… they can just “steer them away from the QB” or “seal them off from the hole”

as long as the DEs aren’t blowing our RT out of the play, we’re OK

Seymour would push this guy down like a Maneri.

He plays Quarterback?

Couldn’t help myself, sorry stag.

took the words right out of my post

BDCinSA - February 13, 2012 reply

Nope.

Cracks me up how they’ve been saying this for 4 years… not going to be an OT.

finally!

I hoping someone would say this. like the 3 previous years. we have no idea who scott pioli will draft.

.Robert - February 13, 2012 reply

Trade for RG3.

At least that’s my suspicion/dream.

if you're gonna dream, dream big.

I personally see them trading back.

.Robert - February 13, 2012 reply

actually in the past 3 years you could tell where they where going in late march.

I saw the Tyson jackson and said to a couple buddies it will be him before the draft. Eric Berry was a hope and glad it happend. Last year was tough didnt see the baldwin pick but didnt mind it.

PSUkegreen - February 13, 2012 reply

Baldwin+Houston, actually.

I can say I called:

Hudson, Berry, McCluster, Arenas, Moeaki and Powe

but, I was dead wrong on
Curry, McClain, Phil Taylor, Golden Tate and many others

That's not a bad track record.

Bet you didn’t have Powe in the 6th round, though. :)

no way

Wait...

How can you be right on Berry and wrong on McClain?

well, I thought they would pick Berry

but, I thought McClain would be awesome and a good pick if they were dumb enough to pass on Berry

The collective minds have been pretty good talking about prospects that have landed on the Chiefs

Last few years there has been talk about almost every prospect we have drafted

and most of the ones we didn't :)

Waits for

’’SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON"

Nice.

I saw/hoped for Asamoah. Did NOT see McCluster or Arenas. At least, not in the second round.

I half-way called Baldwin….not by name, but was a big supporter of a big WR in the first round, which was a not-so-popular opinion at the time.

I was a big supporter of Asamoah

stagdsp - February 14, 2012 reply

Well...

If they keep saying it every year, they may eventually be right.

And just think…only about a million more Mock Drafts until it actually gets here. WooHoo!

Scott B. - February 13, 2012 reply

The team needs are fewer this year, so it may be more likely

Then again, there probably isn’t an OT worth taking at pick #11/12, unless maybe Reiff slips.

Still need a QB.

And taking a RT before we make a move for QB deserves a kick in the nuts. Plus, RTs can be had in FA this year. Spending a 11/12th pick on one seems like a waste of resources.

agree!

Making a move at QB before the O-Line is secure deserves a kick in the nutz.

Carr (the 1st round, 1st pick, in Houston 1st draft) is a prime example why O-Line before QB…guy got KILLED due to lack on line.

Our O-Line let not one, but two different QB get injured (miss game time). Pioli would be the dumbest mother-tucker on the planet if he traded multiple draft pick for multiple years (what it would take to get RGIII) without making SURE said QB could stay upright.

Houston's O line let two QBs get injured.

Although, as BAMF pointed out, there’s a decent chance that one of those was on purpose. Still, QB injuries happen, even on teams with good O lines. Ask LT.

Jets have a good O line. By the time they recover from Sanchez and start to develop another QB, that may not be the case any more.

GB had a piss-poor O line, but a QB good enough to win them a SB while they build it with Sherrods and Bulagas.

I truely hope that the Chiefs front office does not sare your short sighted views.

Just playing your own example game :)

Also, the fact you pointed out a high rated, 1st round QB, that STILL struggles (even WITH a great line) doen't help you arguement any there Brsrkr.

Just because we land a high rated 1st round QB don’t mean sh!t (and even less when said QB has a piss poor line).

I never said that a highly drafted QB is a 100% thing.

Neither is a highly drafted O lineman.

There is a HUGE differnce between a O-Lineman who cost one draft pick....

…and RGII who will cost multiple draft picks for multiple years.

See one is a small set back if they bust, the other will WRECK a team for YEARS.

Capitalization doesn't make it true.

Jon Hake put forward a decent scenario in the mock draft thread for stocking up picks to move up next year, and still have nine picks this year.

Besides, how would trading picks wreck a team? Prevent us from drafting first-round right tackles? Reason > scary all-caps.

Great teams build via the draft.

You can’t build via the draft if you trade away you top picks for years (what it would take to get RGIII this year).

Now, if Pioli want to trade back a few times this year to stockpile draft picks for a run at a ‘top’ QB next year, and can still fill holes (G, RT, TE, ILB, S depth) this year I am all for it.

Trading our future for one player who may or may not be a bust is about as sharp as a bag of bowling balls.

"Years?" Well, two years.

Every pick is a gamble, though. You can’t look at it like you’re trading away a player. You’re trading away a chance at a player, for a chance at another player. Hopefully Pioli considers all the factors. Dumb would be to eliminate an option without considering the specifics.

Bowling Balls kinda sharp

Bang the bag of bowling balls against a bag of hammers, and you've got something.

Bang the bag of bowling balls against a bag of hammers and i've got as much as trading the future for an unproven QB. :-)

BAMFSpecialOps - February 14, 2012 reply

Now see, phrases like that are the central weakness to your argument.

And the most irritating part of it…..

People like Jon, and to a lesser extent me, cite specific things like the draft value chart (moving from 12 to 2 would add up to roughly our second this year and first next year) and St. Louis’ team needs (WR & Dline being pertinent to us).

You use nebulous phrases like “trading the future,” or “all those picks,” or “trade away top picks for years.” And “sharp as a bag of bowling balls.” Those phrases don’t SAY anything, they are purely emotional. A person who is convinced by a purely emotional argument is a person who was already convinced in the first place, and just wanted an entertaining self-affirmation.

Brsrkr - February 14, 2012 reply

The last time a team traded multiple draft picks for a 1st round QB and that team ended up winning a Super Bowl becasue of it was....

?

DivineGrace - February 14, 2012 reply

Becuase I can site at least 2 different non-1st round QB that have won the Super Bowl in the last 10 years.

One of them (the 6th round Tom Brady) won it 3 times, and has been to another 2.

That is 6 different Super Bowls in the last 10 years that had a non-1st round QB starting for the team.

DivineGrace - February 14, 2012 reply

So you are saying we continue to go after late round guys

UNTIL we find the next Brady? Oh.. only take what.. 3000000000000000000000000000000 tries?

An almost DG-esque exaggeration there, BAMF :)

Brsrkr - February 14, 2012 reply

The Giants, of course.

They got Eli. Chargers got Rivers, Merriman, and Kaeding.

Brsrkr - February 14, 2012 reply

Reiff pretty much sucked this year.

I will be pissed if we pick him this high.

rdc - February 14, 2012 reply

love the pick. lets sign him right now lol

Dakota23 - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

Looks a little too much like LJ in that picture

bad vibes….

No thanks

I’ll take Trent Richardson over Martin all day long…and night too. Trent would make more of a difference for the Oline as a RB.

ChiefRocka - February 13, 2012 reply

Agreed.

If Trent falls that far… Which is possible because of the devaluation of RBs over the last few years.

I agree

Though trading down would be my preference.

Agree 100%

No thanks

you can get a complimentary RB later in the draft. Even though i think Richardson is good and will be a good pro, I think he is more of a product of that huge Bama oline.

Have you seen this guy? He's a freak athlete.

Sure, we can get a complimentary back anytime. But I’d prefer to have an absolute beast and rare talent paired with Charles so that in the event of a future injury we aren’t screwed again.

Especially if we are running wih Cassel for one more dreadful season :(

RG3 or Trent.

Anything else is a disappointment.

Tomahawk i like the way you think! agreeing with everything your saying!

Ingram was a beast and Heisman winner behind that line

and you see how he did when he got to the big boy show. Like I said, I think he will be good, but I’m not picking him just to compliment JC

I'm gonna argue and say that Richardson is:

1) An all around better back than Ingram was

and

2) Is a much more naturally gifted athlete than Ingram. I mean just look at the difference in body build:

If we have to have a totally mediocre quarterback,

then I think Richardson could make a huge difference in the way this coming season turns out. However, we do need to make a change with that other Richardson at right tackle before we can have much success.

G.L. - February 13, 2012 reply

Big biceps are actually bad for RBs

makes holding on to the ball harder when its tucked

Risk/reward I suppose.

I’d prefer to have my RBs be a little faster and stronger, even if it does create the possibility of more fumbles.

didn't hurt Jones though

Look at AP and his issues

Even got advice to stop benching/let his biceps go for awhile so the ball would ’’stick’’ better when tucked away

Ingram's last year, people were starting to remark on how Trent looked like a better runner when he subbed in.

This past year, people were starting to remark on how Lacy looked better than Trent when he subbed in….

Rare talent? Maybe, but I seriously doubt he’s another AP. And even if he is, well….as far as Vikings’ recent football success goes, Favre >>> AP.

BAMFSpecialOps - February 14, 2012 reply

Yeah that Oline is just that damn good

When you see multiple backs break out.. hard to say every one of the RBs is that good(including the 3rd string Bama RB who looked good when he was on the field)

Oh yay a back up RB at 11th overall

How smart would that be?

Not at all.

My main concern with Martin is, he he truly as skiled as a assumed top 10-12 draft pick would indicate?

Or was his play helped by a highly skilled Quarterback whose play masked any potential shortcomings.

Topchief1 - February 13, 2012 reply

It'll be interesting to see which players emerge from that offense.

It’d be funny if Fleener is the only one who succeeds in the NFL. It was ALLLL Coby!

RG3 or bust

Whatever it costs to get him, he will be more than worth it

ArrowDread - February 13, 2012 reply

Trent Richardson all day at number 11/12

Mitul V. Patel - February 13, 2012 reply

Okay...I'll take it

Albert/Nicks/Hudson/Asamoah/Martin – Looks beast.

What about trading down for extra picks

Round 1, trade down with Cincy for the 21st pick and their 3rd round pick at 85. that would leave at 21-Mike Adams OT, 44th Kendal Reyes DT, 75th, Isiah Pead RB, 85th(we traded with cincy for) LaDarius Green TE and the 107th pick NT Alameda Da’Amu? What do ya think? at the senior bowl and north south,the chiefs looked at/ interviewed Mike Adams, Iaiah Pead,Kendal Reyes, AlamedaDa’amu.

Jamie Boy - February 13, 2012 reply

always trade down if you can

not always, might be a player you NEED

dubld - February 13, 2012 reply

damn near always

Better get more than just a 3rd for that far of a trade down

Reyes does not fit our system as a base DE at this point, not taking a subpackage player that high
Ta’amu would be a good pick if we could get him that late, doubt he will last that long though

We got a 3rd for going back 6 spots last year

This should get us a 2nd.

At least

We were in the late first last year, top half this year.. for jumping down 10 spots from 11 to 21 would get more than a 3rd possibly a 2nd and late pick

He looks small

6'6" 305lbs

Might as well be a midget if you ask me.

He looks small to me

and 305 is light for an OT.

Depends what type of line you use.

Power blocking line that would be smallish. ZBS that is good size, we palce more of a priority on guys that can move than on pure maulers.

He's undersized even compared to our already "light" OTs:

Albert: 6-5, 316
Richardson: 6-6, 319

305 is light, even for ZBS OTs.

Neither Albert or BRich were drafted for ZBS

But you are still correct. Adding 15 lbs should not be a problem with a pro conditioning program though.

Most OTs are in the 330 range.

It doesn’t matter where/what they were drafted for. And actually, Albert was made to drop weight because Haley wanted him to. Whether or not they drafted them for ZBS is irrelevant. Not trying to be argumentive, just pointing that out. We shouldn’t be sold on one pick because the “body type matches our scheme”. Players can drop or gain weight as needed.

But yeah, 305 is still way too light for any NFL OT.

That's why when I first saw this pic the other day

I thought it was Decastro cause dude in the pic above looks like he should be playing guard or center to me.

I disagree that OTs in the ZBS should be in the 330 range. And different schemes call for vastly different players, its not one size fits all.

Different teams with ZBS
Colts
Linkenbach, Jeffrey OT ACT 6’6" 311
Castonzo, Anthony T ACT 6’7" 311
Redskins
Brown, Jammal T ACT 6’6" 313
Locklear, Sean T ACT 6’4" 310
Polumbus, Tyler OT ACT 6’8" 300
Smith, Willie OT ACT 6’5" 310
Texans
Brown, Duane OT ACT 6’4" 320
Newton, Derek T ACT 6’6" 307
Winston, Eric T ACT 6’7" 302
Butler, Rashad OT RES 6’4" 317

I never said that ZBS OTs need to be in the 330 range.

I was just speaking generically that most NFL OTs are about 330.

And, to be more precise, I was comparing Martin’s weight to our own OTs, in our ZBS, who apparently (at least under Haley) needed to bee around 315 lbs.

Not like the weights listed are actually accurate either

He needs to add about 15 or 20 lbs.

Mitul V. Patel - February 13, 2012 reply

It would be beyond dumb to take a RT in the first half of the first round.

I wouldn’t take a running back that high either.

F250 - February 13, 2012 reply

Who cares?

There is a need at RT and you take the best one you can get. At this point, KC needs players that can help the team win, it shouldn’t matter where they are taken. Martin at #11 is better than Adams at #21.

So why dont you draft Trent and back up charles? That combo would be sick.

You can get a complimentary back later in the draft

Yea but the combo wouldnt be the same.. Trent can take over if charles goes down.. he's comparable to Adrian Peterson

disagree,

dubld - February 13, 2012 reply

Trading Down

seems to me what they will do… who they get is beyond me won’t try to guess but i’m guessing they do move down in the draft…

BlackDoom - February 13, 2012 reply

If we do go Martin, trading down is a no brainer

http://www.buffalobillsdraft.com/2012/01/ot-jonathan-martin-scouting-report/

scouting report

Mitul V. Patel - February 13, 2012 reply

So he can gain some weight/muscle to his frame

That’s good news.

nobody wants OT Bell in FA? maybe grubbs also in FA?

then we wouldnt need to wait for them to develop and the line would be set and we could use later round picks for depth on the O-line and earlier picks for skill players.

kc-twitch - February 13, 2012 reply

meh on Bell

Grubbs would be great

According to Ozzie Newsome, the Ravens GM

the Raven’s OL is his top priority (after Ray Rice) and he’s trying to find a way to keep him. Grubbs will command a 40-50 million dollar salary though. We could draft DeCastro and then Zebre Sanders or Mike Adams in the 2nd. Much cheaper alternative. Plus it frees up some cashola for a guy named Manning….just in case we wanna go that route. Bell has injury problems.

If the Chiefs trade down and the "elite" OT's/OG/s are gone

it seems like Devon Still becomes a dead ringer if available. Especially if they view Dorsey as expendable and find suitors for a trade.

I would rather take a shot on Brockers if he fell than Still

Unfortunately... Barry Richardson is one of the best availalbe RT's in FA

But it’s also possible they take care of that need in free agency.

Doesn't say much about the FA RT's does it?

haha, you said “FART”

(I always have to make that dumb 3rd-grade joke)

but, no… there aren’t any good RTs in FA

Clearly there was a space in between "FA" and "RT"

But I noticed that too and giggled inside…

It says that the FA RT's stink

Scott B. - February 13, 2012 reply

So we've concluded that B-Rich

is one of the better FARTS available this year.

Never thought of BRich as a good FART.

Dont want to either…

Demetrius Bell

Kareem McKenzie
Kalif Barnes

Are all better OTs than Richardson. And we should make a move for at least one of them.

http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2012OT.php

Walter Football has B-Rich ahead of Barnes

No. 8 – Barry Richardson
No. 12 – Khalif Barnes

Those are rankings for all OT’s, not just RT

Most OTs should be able to play RT.

The LT vs RT argument doesn’t hold that much water, IMO. Plenty of LTs have successfully switched to RTs in their careers, and done well.

And I’d still take Barnes over Richardson, Walter Football be damned.

Walter is a pretty good site for reference. But I do think he pretty much hates the Chiefs, and he has been off base on some things.

Agreed...

Dude/dudes have some really weird Chief hate going on over there. But for reference, yeah, they’re ok.

And I’d still target Bell and McKenzie for sure in FA.

But that is why you draft the premium Left type tackles early and the lessers RT

later

if that's the case

then Gaither should be the starter

You're right.

Gaither should have been the starter. Too bad he only played a couple of snaps before he was outright cut. Might have gotten a better analysis of him…

yep

it still burns me that he wasn’t given a chance
even in practice!

clearly, he has some football left in him

Gotta wonder if the Haley treatment didn't burn us with Gaither.

Might have been one of the last straws with Pioli (yes, I know Pioli allowed Gaither to be cut, but you gotta wonder if Haley didn’t have something to do with that, and then Pioli saw Gaither go on to SD and excel). Anyway, I would have liked to see Gaither get some quality time in place of B Rich, just to see how that would have gone.

agreed

I blame Haley 90% for that bad decision

Just tweated from titans reporter John Glennon:

Still no scheduled visit to #Titans for CB Stanford Routt. Routt visiting Bills now and looks like Chiefs could be up next for him.

Im not sure what to think about this? I like that were being agressive but makes me wonder if this will rub Carr the wrong way and drive him out, if hes not already out.

Why would it rub Carr the wrong way? He’s going to check out the market in free agency, the Chiefs are just doing the same.

JComp11 - February 13, 2012 reply

Could take it as an insult. Kc cant/shouldnt even let him sniff FA

The Chiefs don't have a say in that.

Carr is unrestricted, meaning that if he wants to shop, he’s entitled to do so. This isn’t all one sided you know.

they do have a say

SEE: Tag, Franchise

Well, yeah.

But that’s usually the last option. I personally think Carr gets outright signed here. He has a good relationship with Romeo and Flowers. the defense is ascending. We have cap space. Pioli would be wise to pay this man and lock up a couple of lock down corners for the next 5-6 years.

Transition too

Routt would be a nice pick up.

I’d prefer to keep Carr, obviously, as he’s younger and better, but if it can’t happen, Routt would be an ok consolation.

I say DeCastro in Round 1

Pick up your RT in Rd 2 or 3.

I wouldn't hate that pick.

May even be able to trade back a few spots and still pick up DeCastro

I’m thinking we could find a RT in Rd 2 that could start right away. That’s not unreasonable is it? With those 2 picks our OL could potentially be set for years.

I would like the RT to play immediately.

a 2nd or 3rd round guy won’t do that, see: Hudson, Asamoah.

agreed

We could of started Asamoah if we had too

probably not Hudson

"Could of" does not fill in for "did"

Pioli has proven through 2 picks now that he’s not eager to start rookie O Linemen unless it’s absolutely necessary. I’m looking at Pioli’s track record and highly doubt a later round OT will oust Richardson immediately.

true except Richardson need re-signed to even have a shot to keep the RT job

and why should we think it was Pioli that didn’t want to start rookies.

It might be the Steelers OC’s fault

I am seriously worrying bout Mims as the RT in 2012

Please don't even suggest that

great, now I’m worrying about it too…

what worries you about that?

That Mims starting would signal the end of the modern human era, and the beginning of the Mims Dynasty?

Or the apocalypse

The Mayans new about it back then, this is the devastation predicted in 2012….

They knew the Chiefs would be the best team in the NFL in 2012

The world blows up.. go figure

Just like the Baseball players strike when the Royals are in 1st place

:(

That'd be the way wouldn't it?

Just our luck.

shotty - February 15, 2012 reply

Ideally, it shouldn't be Pioli who decides who starts or not

If a late round guy comes in and just blows everyone out of the water, he should start

True.

The argument goes both ways I suppose, and has with players like Lewis and Houston. But I’ll believe an OL will step in year one when I see it.

The Eagles starting center was a 5th or 6th round rookie, don't remeber which one

and he did a pretty good job this year

Pioli wanted to draft that guy badly

makes you wonder why he didn’t just move up in the 6th.

The Chiefs are not the Eagles.

Once upon a time (2008), the Chiefs started like 4 rookies. That just doesn’t seem to be the current regime’s MO though.

agreed

maybe not on the O-line

but we started a pair of Rookie safeties not that long ago

Richardson is not exactly on the same level as Waters or Wiegs.

A rookie RT would not have the same barrier to starting that Asamoah and Hudson did.

Looky looky who is the best FA OT available

No. 1) Jared Gaither

per Walter Football

yep, that stings

Good luck trying to sign him, again.

.Robert - February 13, 2012 reply

Somebody.......maybe the whole organization

screwed up big time on Gaither. Oh well, it is water under the bridge now.

G.L. - February 13, 2012 reply

We need a RT, Gaither is (and due to his HUGE ego will only play LT).

The Chiefs already have our LT….THAT is why Gaither was released.

speculation

not based on anything we heard from Gaither or anyone else

Gaither, Haley, everyone said he could play RT.
he wasnt’ given the chance…

stagdsp - February 14, 2012 reply

Agreed stagdsp.

G.L. - February 14, 2012 reply

i would love an offensive tackle.

But if we did end up taking Trent Richardson I would love that to. He looks like a Baby hulk!

Dakota23 - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

I would be okay with taking a tackle with our first pick.

Stanford has some outstanding talent on their offensive line.

G.L. - February 13, 2012 reply

and QB, and TE

and WR.. waittttt

chief Stevie_k - February 13, 2012 reply

I keep hearing about picking up a RT in free agency, but who is this phantom upgrade?

from the list I’ve seen so far, there aren’t any impressive pending free agent RTs this year. Please enlighten!

agreed

there aren’t any big upgrades in FA

RT does not equal LT, but LT always equals RT

Skrappy - February 13, 2012 reply

LT does not equal RT

Completely different position, not all OTs can make the switch from the left to the right.

Robert Gallery?

He is just a failure from Oakland

Like every other 1st round pick haha