Arrowhead Pride

Ha

When he reaches the ripe ole age of 90

chiefsman! - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

Solari didn't take that long.

KansasCityShuffle - February 13, 2012 reply

Tis true .

Nobody knows the pioli ways I guess

chiefsman! - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

His claims to fame

per Wikipedia – hiking the ball on the Hail Flutie play & developing Anthony Castonzo. Color me unimpressed by the resume, yet surprised to see no apparent Patrioit-Pioli ties

Re: Unimpressive resume

Perhaps there’s something to “nobody wanting to work in KC” post-Peterson

KansasCityShuffle - February 13, 2012 reply

idk...

name an available OL coach with an impressive resume that you’d prefer?

People wanted Will Shields.

A guy with virtually no experience. But at least he’d be a sexy name. I wouldn’t mind him getting the asst-OL job, though.

agreed on Shields for assistant

supersoccersteven - February 13, 2012 reply

I'll second that

The man knows some stuff . Be a good chance for him to learn more about coaching , maybe making it to oline coach someday

chiefsman! - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

Sorry stag u beat me

I’ll third that *

chiefsman! - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

Not only was he talented...

but Shields had great character as well…a rare combo these days in the NFL

Or any days, any where.

You do realize...

Only 5 of our coaches have a Patriots tie? If you looked at our coaches resumes it appears to be more of a Parcell’s tree than a Patriots tree.

groundedchevy - February 13, 2012 reply

Keep your AP meme-busting to yourself.

Only five? What is that only 50%?

HIV 2 Elway - February 13, 2012 reply

Given that the general argument is that we "only" take Patriot coaches

That’s pretty significant.

MNchiefsfan - February 13, 2012 reply

To nit pick

the “general” argument is that ex-Pat coaches are first and then KC accepts anyone from the Parcell’s tree or who may have known Pioli…ever. In that order.

Sorry. Kind of an assy thing to say…

No, that's totally fine

And a good point.

MNchiefsfan - February 13, 2012 reply

Off the top of my head...

I count 17 coaches (could be wrong)…the only argument is that the 3 main positions have Patriots ties (head coach OC and DC). Granted 2 of those positions are held by the same coach.

groundedchevy - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

I can't believe this isn't a national story.

The Chiefs hiring coaches that they’ve had some connection with in the past? That probably never happens anywhere else.

The other 31 teams hire complete fucking strangers

they’re so “innovative”…

PVChiefsfan - February 13, 2012 reply

Other teams paint random coaches names on ping pong balls

then spin them around in a drum and pull out randomly, there you go, new coach.

When you are talking about such a small pool of coaches they are all going to have ties to each other. 32 teams, 17-18 coaches per team, you are only talking about 500-600 NFL coaches. Most of them probably know each other or are 1-2 degrees of separation. Probably don’t add more than another 1-2 degrees by adding in div 1 coaches.

Fozzyboyd - February 13, 2012 reply

Your logic has no place here.

We only deal in irrational, emotional rants.

Racist.

Racist? Is that Jason Whitlock?

Fozzyboyd - February 13, 2012 reply

Wittless may or may not be racist. (50/50 chance).

There is a 100% chance he is no better than an ambulance chaser who values sensationalism over substance/truth.

DivineGrace - February 14, 2012 reply

Pretty sure any coach with the SB champs could find better suitors if they wanted...

The only Patriot tie...

…is that he was on the team that beat them this year… :-)

JQuest - February 13, 2012 via Android app reply

Neat

Nice to get the coaches all in place as soon as possible to get the ball rolling. Can’t wait to hear about bowe and carts contract extension tho

chiefsman! - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

We definitely need those carts on the field

KingChief - February 13, 2012 reply

Yes we do !

O almost forgot , we need Carr too !

chiefsman! - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

False.

I don’t know if I can take another year of our players being carted off.

oh yeah, I heard a' him before ...............

Zulu Trader - February 13, 2012 reply

As the hires keep coming along

i will say I do think Romeo is the guy making his hires, I am pleased with what he has done.

BuddyMcLoving - February 13, 2012 reply

Underwhelming

Again.

Who would have whelmed you?

Dunno

But this sure doesn’t.

Position coaches rarely do.

I for one can't even name one OL coach in the league

Im not sure what constitutes a “sexy hire” for our fans

Yea,

It ranks right up there with kickers coach. I, for one, am waiting for that opening at cheerleaders coach!

David Winton - February 13, 2012 reply

Cheer Coach, interesting...

only if you get to be “hands-on” with your coaching style.

km230015 - February 13, 2012 reply

I would have been pleased with a coach

from a top 15 rushing offense that didn’t have an elite QB carrying the offense.

How about a coach that had good all around stats from his OL?

Not dead last in rushing ypc? We don’t need names, but I for one would be thrilled to have the OL coach/assistant OL coach of a team that consistently fields a good all around OL… like PHI, NE, NO, ATL, BAL etc.

I don't care about a sexy hire, I want a good hire

then give him good players.

Fozzyboyd - February 13, 2012 reply

So does this mean we are going with a power blocking scheme?

KingChief - February 13, 2012 reply

Yes

and a no rushing offense until game 8 approach also.

I doubt it

One of the compliments about our new OC was that he did a very good job of scheming and building the offense around the strength’s of his players. Several of our o-linemen are very good in the ZBS but might not do so well in a power scheme.

I wouldn’t expect it to change, but you never know.

PVChiefsfan - February 13, 2012 reply

agreed

ZB stays

stagdsp - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

Not several. Just Lilja and Weigs.

Chris Sembower - February 13, 2012 reply

i think those are just the guys that have previous experience in it

me personally, i wouldn’t stick albert or hudson in a power scheme either. and those are two guys that probably figure into our future a good amount. so there is 3 (i don’t count weigs for next year) out of 5 right off the bat that are probably more zone than power.

yeah, Albert could do it

but, it was such a struggle to get him used to ZBS, I wouldn’t want to start over

you have 80% of a STUD ZBS line… why scrap it now? just get a damn RT

Albert was drafted, in his own words, to be a road grader.

He could definitely play in a power scheme, probably better than he plays in the ZBS.

Hudson isn’t a 300+ pounder, but he’s low to the ground. He’s bigger and more athletic and maybe just as mean as Weigs was in 2003. Asamoah and another big guard on either side of him, he’d do find in a power scheme.

I think the only current player we have who’s kinda trapped in a ZB role is Lilja.

BRich

Unless you’re not counting him because he’s a FA

I think he might be the least ZBS of all the starters.

He’s a road grader like Albert, but with slower feet.

I read your original comment totally wrong

I took that as saying Lilja was the only non ZB linemen we have. I agree with your original assessment now that my head is out of my ass.

What he does have...

Is a Superbowl winning offensive line. (And a ring).. Give him a chance.. He was an assistant there.. I hope he’s ready to make an impact with our group.

PhxChief75 - February 13, 2012 reply

He also had an offense with an elite QB

and that elite QB carried the team, time and again, when the OL was doing squat in the run game. Recipe for disaster in KC.

Giants pass protection has been great! And
That’s what we need to impove! Also Brandon Jacobs is not Jamal Charles !we will be fine in the run game. Stop being so negative!!! It is getting old already!!!!!!!!

albuquerquechiefsfan - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

So we should sacrifice some of our run blocking for pass pro?

Since we already have a super stud RB, we can afford to sacrifice run blocking for pass pro, so our mediocre QB has more of a chance? I disagree. We need to play to our strengths, not our weaknesses.

Thanks for telling me how to feel/think/post

Congrats on your 115th post.

Bradshaw getting hurt

Really affected the Giants run game. Jacobs is not a full time runner. Regardless of how it happened, they won the Superbowl with an aging line which is what every team in the league tries to do.

PhxChief75 - February 13, 2012 reply

Understood

but you cannot ignore the QB situation there. Swap QBs and I guarantee they don’t even sniff the SB, no matter how “good” the OL was.

Underwhelmed with hiring an OC that didn't have any elite players

Now you are underwhelmed with hiring a position coach that did have am elite player.

Wow

RememberDelaney37 - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

Wow is right

The OC comes from a culture of losing, as I’ve stated. Further, I don’t care for this hire because the OL leaned on the QB, IMO, for the majority of the year. Why is this hard to understand?

So again, underwhelmed no matter what

The culture of winning or losing is based more on the players than on the coaches. Everybody comes from a culture of losing, until they aren’t anymore. So in talking about the culture, you are just saying that you wanted an OC that made his name from elite offensive players. I dare you to list any of the OCs you wanted; you confident that any of them did not come from a team worth likely an elite QB or RB???

RememberDelaney37 - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

Sweet mother of mercy...

Fine. Whatever. You’re right. I’m wrong. Moving along.

Would you take a defensive coach from New England?

They would be from a culture of winning, right?

(Not trying to pile on. Just adding to my point)

Moving on

RememberDelaney37 - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

No because the disdain for the "all things NE" fetish at Arrowhead

trumps the “culture of winning” ideal.

LOL

IMO

This is another good hire the Giants o line has
Been really good hopefully he could do the same with ours.
It seems to me that there are alot of people on this site that are not happy with the moves we have made so far? But when u ask them who or what they would of done the have no answer?
(if your not part of the solution your part of the problem)

albuquerquechiefsfan - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

I think

chiefsman! - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

I think eli was the one doing good

Line was questionable at times . Problem is we don’t have an elite qb . In fact not even a qb that performs well under any pressure

chiefsman! - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

But I think he will be good coach

Let’s hope anyways

chiefsman! - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

But that's exactly what these site's are about, the good and the bad

Just as company fans should be able to praise every move made, sceptics should be able to bash everything as well. Alright, I’m off my soapbox and off to Rage Against the Machine elsewhere, free Leonard Peltier or some junk.

severn58 - February 13, 2012 reply

Dead last in rush ypc.

We just hired an OL coach that coached a line that was 32nd in the NFL in rushing yards per carry. We’re a run first team. How does that sound like a good hire to you?

Stop being negative!

for the record, I agree.

Mitul V. Patel - February 13, 2012 reply

He's better than Muir and probably won't fall asleep.

Good Hire.

I like the hire! He was a coach on one of the best and most physical lines in the league.

Good, very good.

NigerianNightmare - February 13, 2012 reply

Welcome aboard.

Lots of work to do.

higgige7 - February 13, 2012 reply

This is a great hire!

The reason this is good because he was the one who created goal line offensive game planning for the giants. We all know the chiefs were horrible in this area of the game. It seems a lot of you are having a negative attitude towards hires based off thier wiki sites? Seriously people give these people a chance before you judge them. We as fans have no idea what these coaches did behind the scenes at thier previous teams.

Everyone’s opinion is important but when your negative because of only seeing a wiki page is just a bit immature. That is just my opinion. :)

bstrackstar - February 13, 2012 via mobile reply

Yeah, I wonder if his goal line resume was the main reason Crennel hired him.

I am cautiously optimistic.

Wake me up when we sign a good quarterback.

old_school - February 13, 2012 reply

You got it, Rip Van Winkle.

Meh.

Again, the hire fails to impress.

The Giants were 7th in QB sacks allowed… but dead last in average rush yards per attempt, at 3.5 ypc.

Not saying it can’t work out… but I have to admit I don’t have high hopes for this. It almost looks as if Pioli is building a staff catered to work with Cassel. Daboll, the guy that worked miracles with Moore. Now Bicknell, a guy that is apparently known for coaching a good pass pro line… but not so much run block. Uggghh.

Almost looks like every move is centered around Cassel.

If that’s what you’re looking for.

God I hope not.

Maybe they’re just prepping for RG3… right? heh heh heh (nervous laugh, if you couldn’t tell)

Getting coaches to work with the talent your team has is a good strategy IMO

Right...

And our talent includes a stud RB. We just led the league in rushing 2 years ago. It just doesn’t sit well with me that we hired an OL coach that coached a line that was DEAD LAST in rushing ypc. Maybe I’ll look further back on his work… might sit a little better then, considering that Bradshaw was injured for a good portion of this year.

Results:

19th in ypc in 2009
6th in ypc in 2010.

Again: Meh.

Bradshaw was injured and they lost some talent on the OL.

Im not to worried about this hire.

I'm not saying definitively that it was a bad hire.

But the track record leaves much to be desired. I’ll wait and see. Hope for the best, and all of that.

agreed

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I don't think they were really all that good at pass blocking.

Eli made them look good in that department.

I’m OK with this hire. Now, when can we replace our OC???

Topchief1 - February 13, 2012 reply

LOL. Really?

I feel much better about Daboll than I do Bicknell.

Chris Sembower - February 13, 2012 reply

For anyone talking about this 32nd in rushing and us being a rushing team

I would just like to state the only RB we have under contract just got off crutches or may still be on them idk. But for you to think that we have the best rusher in the league still is just absurd we may have nothing in JC anymore nobody knows

Kmillz2525 - February 13, 2012 reply

he hasn't been on crutches in a while

my brother waited on him where he works like two or three months ago and he was walking around then

these days, with the state of medical technology, he probably has to worry about overcoming the mental blow from the injury than the physical part. from what I understand you can pretty much expect a full physical recovery if everything is done right in the first place (surgery, rehab, etc).

i’m just being optimistic, though. i fully agree with your point about not knowing what we have in him. can’t risk that this year. it made too big a difference last year :(

I have to agree

http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story/09000d5d826d092c/article/acl-surgery-research-shows-decline-in-running-back-stats

We are actually really lucky that all three of our stars had surgery so early.

groundedchevy - February 13, 2012 reply

Priest Holmes, Adrian Peterson.

Both had ACL tears in their careers. Both went on to have some amazing years after the tears happened.

Modern medicine is pretty efficient.