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Kansas City Chiefs February 2012 Approval Poll: Clark Hunt

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Three years ago this month we did our very first approval poll on Kansas City Chiefs owner Clark Hunt. And in those 36 months, his approval numbers have never been as low as they were in January 2012 --34 percent.

It's a new month so there will be new opinions.

More Approval Polls: Scott Pioli | Romeo Crennel

The Chiefs owner made an appearance on radio row at Super Bowl XLVI in Indianapolis in the week leading up to the Super Bowl (technically February) and talked about the Chiefs salary cap, free agency situation and the end of the 2011 season.

Go ahead and vote in our poll. Do you approve of the job the Chiefs owner is doing?

Previous results are posted after the jump.

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Poll
Do you approve of the job Clark Hunt is doing as the Chiefs owner?
Approve
621 votes
Do not approve
725 votes
Not sure
545 votes

1891 votes | Poll has closed

0 recs  |  150 comments

Comments

Not sure untill he shows me he will open his wallet.

Never know how much is Hunt and how much is Pioli, but if we are that far under the cap then there is an issue.

Worth reading.

That was a good read (saw it yesterday)

But the Chiefs need to make use of this “asset” that they have. The time to do it would be now. Make some moves. Get serious about making a legit run.

Don't they HAVE to spend money to get above the salary floor?

Or is that by 2013?

2013

Not sure if that’s the end of league year 2012 or 2013, though. I do remember that they have all year to do it, though.

I agree, but they have to do it smartly.

They didn’t get into such a great position by spending just to spend.

Yep, look at teams like the raiders, Jets, and Cowboys.

Now they have to cut contracts because they were just spending money for the sake of spending it.

Which is why, though it may not please us much.

Replacing Carr with Routt may be a good move.

show me the money
here ya go

thanks ups keep some for that peyton manning jersey
Me either. 1st time I've not voted my approval of Clark, but...

I think he is a big part of the issue with the problems inside the organization with this whole micro-management, bean-counter picayune nonsense we’ve seen since Lamar died. I cannot believe 20 year employees of the team are actually filing lawsuits about how they’ve been treated by mgmt. You know Lamar is rolling over in his grave at the sound of that. Add in the fact they’ve created a huge amount of cap space and now are apparently balking at paying Carr what he has EARNED on the field of battle for OUR team. Infuriating!

I will be livid if we lose Carr over money… and I may well quit the team (and the NFL) entirely if they lose him because he felt he was disrespected by the way the team has handled all of this. This is no small thing – I’ve loved this team since I was in grade school at St. Elizabeth’s in Waldo back in the 60’s

But losing Carr that way, on top of how the team mishandled Jared Allen, and they way they kept LJ two years past the time anybody could stand a whiff of him… I’m losing respect for what the team STANDS for, and I’m not the only person who loves the Chiefs who feels this way.

Until Clark & Pioli understand the middle-class, blue collar moral fabric ethos of the teams fan base, there is no chance he can build a team we can be proud of. Chiefs fans expect our team to be winners in life as well as on the field. And off the field is where the team is failing most abysmally now. And it’s NOT the players who are failing us – it’s the moral fabric of our mgmt team being willing to overlook the nonsense of LJ while turning a blind eye to the real accomplishments of Carr.

I want us to win on all fronts and I want to be told the truth. If the team was sincere about building a long term winning tradition based on the draft – like they have told us time and time again, then not signing Carr is evidence we’re being lied to by the team. How can you buy season tickets from an organization that lies to you?

If we lose Bowe, I have much less problem with that as he has never really convinced me that he’s bought into the whole program here from his heart. All he has done is realize he was going to be cut and out of the league if he didn’t address his work ethic and shooting his mouth off to the media. And those two things are true no matter where he plays. But losing him is not the same as losing Carr who has been a model citizen on and off the field since day 1. Carr has earned his money with his play on the field. If the team doesn’t pay him now then we will know they have lied to us.

They have a real chance here with Carr to show us they MEAN WHAT THEY SAY. I hope they do.

I guess I vote aprove.

As far as I can tell, he’s letting Pioli run the show, which is exactly what he should be doing.

Do not want!

I've got to find some of that volumizing shampoo
Only made it to 2nd base on Valentines day.

Do not approve.

Should have gotten your girl three gallons of interior paint

Worked for me

did u miss the cut off at second base
Carried over extra cap space. Approve.
Worst owner in KC, worst owner in the NFL
Worst owner in KC?

At least the Chiefs have made the playoffs in my lifetime.

Those Cerner dudes > Dave Glass > whoever the Hell owns the Missouri Mavricks > Clark Hunt
luckily those "Cerner" dudes

don’t run their company like evil tyrants!!

11 year old news!!!!

BUt yeah, I heard that when it happened. I hear thats a bitch company to work for but I like the way they run their soccer squad.

My father just got laid off from that place...

He was getting too old to do his job. He’s only 63 and they gave him an award two months before. I hate that place with a passion.

How is Glass a better owner than Hunt?

Clark’s team lost three of their top players and had the same winning percentage as the Royals who had a relatively good year. The Chiefs are in so much better shape than the Royals that I can’t even fathom an an argument you could use to say Glass is a better owner.

Royals have pumped man loo tinto their farm team and international scouting

and if you haven’t heard, have what everyone agrees is BY FAR the farm system and are in a prime position to compete for years to come in a sport without a salary cap.

Yes, but they have still not had a winning season.

There is no reason a team like St. Louis can compete but the Royals can’t.

Yep

I’m not a Royals fan at all, but if you arent’ going to compete for big dollar FA’s like the Yanks, Sox, or Phils, it has to be through a good farm system, and from everything I’ve said, the Royals have one of the best farms in baseball. That appears to be what my Jays are doing too.

I'm not much of a baseball fan. But isn't a talented farm system maybe just a sign that other teams' prospects are getting called up sooner?
No, not really

Royals changed their mindset from drafting signable guys to drafting badasses and its starting to pay off.

Doubt it

cuz they will just get rid of them all instead of paying them, like they did Greinke. Why hasnt Gordon been signed to a long term deal?

Greinke didnt want to be in KC anymore. so instead of waiting another year and losin him to free agency, they traded him picked up almost all of the Brewers top prospects. It has def worked out in KC favor

the Chiefs have a farm system and it's working quite well ...

the NCAA

Yeah, except

they aren’t allowed to do that anymore with the new agreement and yet they didn’t bother to spend any money in FA.

I’m not saying they should have, but since DM took over every year we hear that the Royals are saving the money and will spend it in the future. With all the money they supposedly have been saving, the Royals should be able to have a $150 million roster for 2 or 3 years.

The Royals will probably have the lowest payroll once again this year and can’t spend any of that money in international signings or the draft.

A couple serious and curious questions:

Has there ever been a time you did like Clark Hunt?

Who is an owner (in the NFL) that you would like Hunt to own like?

Paul Allen

I want an owner who made their money elsewhere and want a pro franchise as a high priced toy.

I thought it had to do with the "born rich" thing...

Usually those people are hard for anyone to like.

I disagree

I don’t think he is the worst owner in the NFL. He isn’t the best, but not the worst.

I voted not sure, I don’t really approve or disapprove.

Worst. Owner. In. The. Nationalfootballeaguejimbobcooter.

You think Chief fans aren’t that high on helmet-head, it’s nothing like Skins fans hatred of ol’ Danny boy….only 2 options for his poll, “no” and “run into an AIDS tree and die slow”

Doesn't matter if you suck

as long as you spend a lot of money.

Weird, Chiefs fans say Hunts a penny-pincher

Snyder does nothing but spend, fans hate him too…what’s a 1%’er to do?

/Snort blow of a hookers rump on their private yacht, that’s what a 1%’er would do.

Chiefs fans would hate Snyder too.

But being as the grass is always greener on the other side, they like him from afar.

hey you don't have to be a 1%er to do this

you could always be the hooker!

Open the pocket book, Clark.

If you weren’t being a cheap, stingy bastard last year in preparation to have 63 million in wiggle room this year, then you suck.

I want to see some real effort made to make a run this year or I’ll be really pissed.

This, dude can redeem himself if he makes it rain

From what I understand cap space won’t carry over from 2012 to 13 like it did this year. Some will carry over but just a fraction of it.

Yeah, I heard the same.

Only a fraction of 2012s will carry to 2013.

Now is the time to make some moves. This is a pretty solid FA class, and the Chiefs have plenty to make something happen.

Not a big fan of Clark

1. A child of immense wealth. He was born into privelege. He did nothing to earn his place and therefore I don’t really feel he deserves it..

2. He hired Pioli, who I personally am not a fan of.

3. He has not been assertive or demonstrated that he has a soul.

He could be worse though. I give him a C-

Do you really want an assertive owner?

I prefer him to stay away and let the people who know what they’re doing run the show.

Meh, I'd take Jerry Jones

Dude gets it done and didn’t fleece this city for a stadium

Like how they went 8-8 this year and 6-10 the year before that?

As for the stadium, the owners make a lot more money if they own the stadium, so it’s not like Jerry Jones built it just to help out the community.

Like how their owner cares more about winning knowing that he made his billions eslewhere and has won Super Bowls in our life time
Jerry Jones? you mean the guy who's fleecing STH's for upwards of 100k in fees?
What's he exactly done lately?

Dude wasn’t shit without Jimmy Johnson and isn’t since him

I don't want a control freak,

but I don’t really feel he would lay the smack down if things weren’t running right.

He did fire Carl Peterson.

Does that not qualify as laying the smack down?

He doesn't seem to think winning is

that important is the sense i get, all business. seems like chiefs are just one of his teams in his collection.

Winning is good for business.

Not sure where you get the idea he doesn’t think it’s important.

You made my pt for me

winning to make biz better is not what you want in an owner. I’m not saying i’d rather have jerry jones or al davis type as owner, but these guys want to win to win, not win because it will make them more money.

I just want them to win.

I guess if the owner is a fan, that’s a bonus, but not necessary. I have no idea how much of a fan Clark is anyway.

in case you missed it

because I did. and i can’t find a link to it on the kcstar web page.

Clark Hunt puts his own stamp on the NFL

1. Very few people succeed without their parents help, whether it is by paying for their private school, tutors, paying for their expensive colleges, or whatever else. I’m sure even you received some help from your parents, it’s just that his father was able to help him a bit more.

2. Meh… can’t really blame him for that. Just about everyone wanted him.

3. You don’t know him personally so you can’t say if he is a good or bad person.

i think clark needs to open the crow bar to his wallett this year. 63 mil to spend

i understand holding back in the herm rebuild years, but that is over with, the chiefs will be in a nice run for 5 to 10 years if they spend some dough in FA

He will eventually.

Next year will be the last without a floor, so we’ll need to spend a lot of money real quick.

Until he spends some money

and even just pretends like he wants a competitive team. I will not approve. He says some of the right things but his actions speak so much louder. This team needs a QB and quality depth at every position. As much as I think Dan Snyder is a shitty owner, at least he tries to win. He’s doing it all wrong but no one can question that he tries to put together a good team. Clark Hunt doesn’t even try.

He didn't try when he fired Peterson and hired Pioli?
Nope

also wasnt trying when he re-signed JC, DJ, Hali and Flowers

you aren't trying

until you flush 36 million down the drain I guess.

Screw it, it ain't my money

any more.

Never said to waste the money or flush it down the drain

can’t tell me there were FA’s out there that wouldn’t have been upgrades over what we had or better depth than we had. Not saying waste it but spend the money if there are upgrades and players we need, and there were.

Great, he's resigned 3 players

still need to do 2 more, plus how many holes have we had that haven’t been addressed? We’ve needed a NT since Pioli got here and only one we signed was a stopgap in Gregg. Going into last year with no legit backup QB was terrible. Going into last year with BRich starting at RT was almost criminal. We need depth at almost every position. Can’t tell me there weren’t FA’s out there that wouldn’t have been upgrades.

Not really, that's front office, I mean more players on the field.

Great that he spent money for a guy to evaluate talent but they haven’t really gone out and signed free agents to fill the many holes we’ve had or depth we’ve needed.

where skitzo these days
i find this curious.

Clark Hunt Approval January 2010 – 82%
Clark Hunt Approval January 2011 – 95%
Clark Hunt Approval January 2012 – 34%

2009 season team spent: 84.5 million; record: 4-12
2010 season team spent: 77.7 million; record 10-6
2011 season team spent: 92 million; record 7-9

please correct my numbers, as I can’t find one place that details what teams spent against the cap (or lack of cap) per year. But based on what I could find, there does not seem to be a correlation between what Clark spends and fan approval, but rather how well the Chiefs perform vs expectations and fan approval.

Right

And I’m pretty sure those numbers are not accurate (if you’re talking about the salary cap). Think the Chiefs ended 2011 around 99 million.

right on

i know i saw 24 million under somewhere, but i went with 27 million from november just to be “conservative”. Would love to see a site that put up team money spent towards cap per year, but I guess since the NFL doesn’t have to publicize that, it’s hard to get accurate numbers.

it shows that there are a ton of bandwagon fans
Season ticket payments due today.

Clark Hunt approval poll comes out. What a coinkydink!

Huh.
why are you huh-ing me?
Huh

as in “you don’t say” or “interesting.”

ah...gotcha

I thought it was a huh as in “what do you mean?…what are you trying to say?”

what?

YOU THINK YER BETTER THAN ME?!

no...

some folks got to celebrate Valentines Day yesterday. Me, I get to celebrate football season. Probably wouldn’t if I weren’t single.

oh

I just meant that when I see Tarkus say “huh” i don’t take it as what do you mean, I take it as he thinks he’s better than us. :)

Then I would have said
Huh?
Clark wants his money
season ticket increase when peyton manning comes to town
We want Lamar Jr.!!!

At least that sex addict would bring in some hotter cheerleaders

I haven't checked out the new crop

maybe there’s hope.

I vote not sure

I say that because he hired the best guy at the time that could do the job.
He has given Pioli the power to do whatever he wants.

Im thinking its Pioli who will not spend the money. He even stated in “War Room” that he is tight with the Hunt’s money and he is proud of that. Like really? I think Pioli is an extreme conservative that also has a “teachers pet” mentallity. He wants to keep his job so he does whatever it takes to save and conserve money.

Had trouble deciding on this poll

a couple of months ago, and it was an easy disapproval. now, it feels like a fresh start, i like the calmness and professionalism of romeo and like the fact that the key work Daboll uses for his offense is attack. Haven’t had that mentality since Vermeil.

I think this is a big year for clark and pioli. seems like with some good moves, chiefs could have a great year, so its hard to give a disapproval at this pt.

BBQ Sauce > Honey Mustard

do not approve

I'll say one thing for being perceived as Patriots West

our owner certainly doesn’t seem to have the relationship with players that Rober Kraft does. It seems like the Pats love that dude as much or more than Belichick.

Players loved Vermeil.

He had one playoff game in five years. Love is overrated.

/single

Lonely Valentines day?
Pretty much, yeah.
I still think we're the same person.

Either we say the same stuff, or you’re saying exactly what I was going to say until I saw that you already said it.

I was just about to say the same thing!
This one is hard to say about.

A lot depends on how things shake out over this off season and who is held accountable during the coming season. For now, unsure.

Clark Hunt = most boring man in KC

Zero personality. Zero charisma. Bout as exciting as a root canal

root canals always get my attention

man 1 was enough for me, I don’t think I was numbed enough. I was white knuckled the whole time.

i thought it was the most interesting man in the world
Lowest rating since the polls started (so far)
I'm still protesting the lockout.

Not sure when I’ll start voting approve again.

Me two...........

still peeved

Some nice FA signings could swing me back.

Even our own.

Not sure

Guess we’ll find out soon enough with the franchise tags comin up and re-signing or not re-signing our players.

I agree with some posters on here!

I am voting do NOT approve knowing that we, again; have the most money too spend. I will eagerly change my vote IF that money starts being spent aggressively in an attempt to make this a formidable franchise. I guess what I am saying is that I am tired of the perception that we are the Kansas City CHEAPS! Change that perception and you win my respect. I’m not talking spend with reckless abandon like an Al Davis or Dan Snyder. Just a middle ground where we aren’t always appearing in the bottom three of overall team spending.

Wow...RAC flat out dwarfs Hunt & Pioli

Big guy

I voted not sure

If he resigns Bowe, Carr, and upgrades depth at Safety and O-line then he has my approval.

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