Another thing he hit on was the future of
Dwayne Bowe, the Chiefs impending free agent receiver. Judging by the quote below, it's safe to assume that Bowe isn't going anywhere.
"We're hopeful to re-sign Dwayne," Pioli said. "One way or another, we would love to have Dwayne back here as a Chief. Just like Brandon [Carr]. We would like to keep the good players we have. The important part is that you have to come to an agreement."
That's about as close as we'll get to Pioli saying Bowe will be signed to a longterm deal or franchised. Whichever one it is, it's clear he's coming back.
Dont overcomplicate things
Pay the man his money
ArrowDread - February 21, 2012
It's complicated
if the two sides have completely different definitions for “his money.”
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
Very different language in what he said about Bowe compared to Carr
Bowe is here to stay for sure. Carr on the other hand he uses language like “If both sides find a deal that makes sense for one another” and then here again while talking about Bowe he refers back to Carr and reiterates “The important part is that you have to come to an agreement”. Something tells me they want Carr back but aren’t close at all with where Carr wants to be financially and Pioli is basically saying the ball is now in his court.
GenericBrand - February 21, 2012
i still think they offered carr something very close to routt's dea, just over 5-6 years, he declined, and they went a different route with routt
SDChief - February 21, 2012
3 year age difference, 3 year contract difference? makes one wonder
SDChief - February 21, 2012
I don't disagree
but I don’t think the above quote makes the case Joel’s conclusion does.
Those words suggest that both situations are exactly (just like) the same.
I think the particular translation is based on the signing of Routt.
But hey, I don’t get paid to make people post :)
chief Stevie_k - February 21, 2012
I didn't hear the interview but I'd like to just to hear how he said it.
Depending on how he said it you could be right that “Just like Brandon Carr” could be more tied to the first part of what he said or it could be tied to the last part.
GenericBrand - February 21, 2012
I agree.
I think Joel is using his Routt filter. If you take what he says at face value, I see no difference between how he’s talking about the two players.
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
I hope Routt puts all those enemy WR's through his filter
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
in other words, sign the contract d-bowe, or else the tag is a coming
SDChief - February 21, 2012
tag time
ExRoyalsFan - February 21, 2012
You're it.
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
No one is safe
What if we resign Carr, tag then trade Bowe, Dorsey and our first rounder to St Louis and get RGIII
Kneerat - February 21, 2012 via mobile
Id rather sign bowe and franchise Carr, but anything that gets us RG3 im all for
Jeremy Daniel - February 21, 2012
and then obviously same trade scenario excpect take out Bowe and add Carr
Jeremy Daniel - February 21, 2012
I was thinking they need more weapons for Bradford to throw to
Kneerat - February 21, 2012 via mobile
Yeah, but i think since #1 CB ( or ones who think they are) are so rare he might have more attraction than Bowe..IMO tho
Jeremy Daniel - February 21, 2012
I think they need CBs, too.
They need a lot.
Brsrkr - February 21, 2012
Will RG3 really want to back up Peyton, though?
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
nice.
SwimCoach - February 21, 2012
Would Peyton backup Robert?
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
In all seriousness, though, I would be 100% in favor of signing Peyton Manning then drafting RGIII to groom behind him for a year or two.
If all goes well we’ve fixed the QB position for the next 15 years.
MtHammer - February 21, 2012
Maybe we can snag Rodgers as well
DrDC - February 21, 2012
Laugh all you want, I'm just saying one strategy should not preclude the other from happening.
I want the Chiefs to go after Manning, but he’s a short term fix. We would be wise to start looking to acquire a QBOTF even if we do sign him so we aren’t back here in 2 years.
And obviously you understand that while Rodgers is not acquirable, both Manning and RGIII are. And since one is acquired with money and the other players and picks, the two are not mutually exclusive scenarios.
Now I don’t expect us to get Manning or Griffin. I don’t even expect Pioli to make a strong play for either one. I’d be thrilled if we ended up with either. But if you’re asking me what we should do, I think we should make a play for both.
MtHammer - February 21, 2012
I would rather
Not give up the picks to get rg3 if he isn’t going to start game 1. If manning is the guy, which I would be fine with, I’d rather have osweiler or foles backing up manning, and fix other areas
With those picks
Tripower66 - February 21, 2012 via mobile
And if all doesn’t go well, we’ve screwed the team for the next 5
PVChiefsfan - February 22, 2012
its funny how a post about bowe
ends up bout Mr.Football and RGIII, your forgetting Stanzi. I’d like to see him get a shot
Redreign - February 21, 2012
That would be sweet
Don’t see it happening, but it would be sweet.
SwimCoach - February 21, 2012
We love you D Bowe!
And we will force you to play for us!!
bossmanham - February 21, 2012
Tough love?
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
Yes.
Our precious.
bossmanham - February 21, 2012
just taking the 2011 season in perspective
Is Dwayne Bowe worth 10 Million per year?
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
I think he can get somewhere close to what Andre Johnson got
his is 7 years/$62.7 million
KingChief - February 21, 2012
5 catches avg per game
72 yards avg per game
5 TDs and according to PFF 5 Interceptions caused for the year, 10 dropped passes
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
Have you ever tried to catch a pass
that is 5 feet behind you?
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
and he drops the ones right in his hands
on occasion
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
"on occasion"
A lot of top WR’s have drops from time to time.
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
.
motrepip - February 21, 2012
Yalls conversation reminded me of this.
Way over his head, IMO.
motrepip - February 21, 2012
I think if you look at his 2011 numbers...
he’s easily worth it.
I posted this below… but 81 receptions, 1159 yards, 5 TDs… with Tyler Palko playing in 6 games? Cassel half the others? Orton for 3?
Bowe had another Pro Bowl year.
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
Palko only started 3 games
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
good thing I said "played in"
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
I stand corrected
4 games and 12 snaps combined in two others
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
Thank you, I was well aware already.
I choose my words carefully to support my argument.
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
*mislead
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
Haha yes
Nick Britt - February 21, 2012
/wink
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
more than misleading unless my math and english skills are wrong
Cassel ‘playing’ in half the others (inferring half of the sum of all the games minus 6 for Palko, grammatically speaking): 16-6=10. 10/2=5.
Orton ‘playing’ in 3. Palko playing in 6 games (but not starting in six).
Who was the other QB then?
That’s only 14 games in which a KC QB ‘played’ in. And that total is counting games guys merely ‘played in’ as he says. Who started the other two games, and who started the other two games Palko didn’t start? Chalk at least 4 games started up to the sucky phantom QB Bowe had to endure.
According to Brad-KC…
Cassel: ‘played’ in 5 games, started??? (a joke)
Palko: played in 6 games, started 4.
Orton: played in 3 games, started?
Exactly.
In reality, Cassel started 9 games. Now how did he start in 9, but only play in 5? I guess he really is amazing.
chief Stevie_k - February 21, 2012
4 games
KingChief - February 21, 2012
Hopefully Bowe gets scared of the franchise tag and takes the Don's offer.
Then we turn around and slap the tag on Carr. Trade bait, or the best stable or CBs in a pass oriented league, take your pick.
This is an interesting offseason…
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
Tag Carr
Sign Orton (tell him he’ll start the season)
Trade Carr and Cassel (to be a quality back up when Bradford inevitably gets hurt again) to STL with this years 1st next years 2nd for their #2 pick.
Draft RG3. Let Orton start until RG3 is ready. Win a Super Bowl next year.
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
What about Bowe?
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
You know, the guy that the article is focused on?
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
Sorry, for some reason in my mind... we're going to lock him up no matter what.
Sign Bowe for sure.
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
As I said below,
I can understand if Bowe wants to shop. The offense is going through another transition, the QB situation is questionable at best. If I was in Bowe’s position I would definitely like to go talk to teams like NE, GB, SF, NO, etc.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
SF?
meh
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
True.
That was a bad example. They’re the Chiefs’ NFC twins.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
Except for the whole almost going to the SB thing.
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
A healthy Chiefs team could have been in a similar boat.
Take Frank Gore, PAtrick Willis, and Vernon Davis away from the Niners and what would they have done this year? Would they have won 7 games?
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
Coulda shmoulda.
The Chiefs, in fact, haven’t been in a similar boat since Joe Montana was slinging passes for them.
Doing > Theory
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
Oh and the 5 SB victories.......
NJChieffan16 - February 21, 2012
I'm not including 20 years ago.
I’m talking now. This year.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
This year they were a hair away from the Super Bowl.
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
Two botched Special Teams plays
From a back-up returner away.
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
Yeah?
And?
Sure would have been nice to see how a team with Charles, Berry and Moe would have fared, considering they were 2 botched FGs away from the playoffs. Without them.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
Doing > Theory
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
Whatever.
Not sure how you can’t see the similarities between these two teams.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
They may be similar on paper.
Their results aren’t similar, at least yet.
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
We smoked em last year.
bossmanham - February 21, 2012
Singletary sucks as a HC
He can turn boys into men though.
Sorta reminds me of Haley in a way.
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
Too bad Haley couldn't build us a good offense
like Singletary built them a good defense
KingChief - February 21, 2012
Of course
Haley’s offense torched Singletary’s defense.
Okay, maybe that was Weis’ offense.
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
Singletary didn't really build that D
It was there before he got there.
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
You sure about that?
Most of their studs are from when he was there.
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
He was only the Head Coach for 2 years
And before that was a LB coach IIRC.
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
He was there 2004-2010
KingChief - February 21, 2012
Yet, right.
We just won 7 games with 3 of our best players out all year. And were a blocked FG away from the playoffs.
Take Willis, Gore and Davis away from SF and they’re likely to have similar results.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
yep. quite frankly with that schedule a healthy chiefs team going in seemed like 8 wins was fairly optomistic.
SDChief - February 21, 2012
They'd still Have Navorro Bowman, his play has people putting him in the same class as DJ/P-Willy
Their back-up RBs are pretty good, and well Davis>>>>>Moeaki so that’s not really fair.
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
Davis had 250 more yards and 3 more TDs this year
Than Mo had his rookie year.
Vernon isn’t that much better, IMO.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
And besides, the gap closes even more because Charles >>>>> Gore.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
I think you would have to compare TMo to Crabtree to get a better comparison
because Davis is their Bowe
KingChief - February 21, 2012
Results > Theory
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
Man, you just have a rock solid argument against my wanting to discuss theory here.
Good for you.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
I completely disagree.
The Chiefs are very similar to the 49ers.
Mediocre QB, great run game, good defense. The Niners are a team that just turned the corner, the Chiefs are a team that has recently turned the corner. A healthy Chiefs team compares very closely to a healthy Niners team.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
It's still theory until they've actually done it.
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
Just like it was theory until SF actually did it?
Do you honestly not agree that the Chiefs and Niners are very similar teams right now? Really?
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
Right.
And now they have. The Chiefs haven’t.
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
You keep throwing out SF and the SB...
when I’m pretty sure they HAVEN’T been to the SB with this current team.
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
They almost did
I think that’s his point, they were as close to the SB as we were to the Playoffs.
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
Tarkus' reply to those of use who said the chiefs "almost did"
is, “coulda woulda shoulda”
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
The Chiefs "almost did" make the playoffs.
The 49ers “almost did” make the Super Bowl. Big difference.
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
The Lions almost won a game that one year
Just like the Patriots almost won the Super Bowl that one year.
Can’t you see the similarities between the 0-16 Lions and 18-1 Patriots?
DrDC - February 21, 2012
Didn't he say "big difference"?
bamachief5558 - February 21, 2012
and our point
if you want to play with hand grenades, you should be able to rationally conclude that we could be close to their level if our studs didn’t blow out their knees
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
We could be close I agree
Who knows though.
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
Exactly.
How many times were the Chiefs 13-3 and couldn’t even win a playoff game at home? All the theory in the world doesn’t mean a thing until you’ve actually done it. We can what-if every season.
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
I disagree – there is are benefits to stepping back and comparing the two rosters (KC and SF).
One tidbit we can gain from that examination is the realization that a lot of wins and losses turn on small things.
PVChiefsfan - February 22, 2012
I'm not arguing against "could".
I’m only saying what might have happened is not as important as what did happen.
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
Which is why I said this:
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
The difference between us and them
We had a coach that wanted to play secret games and confuse everyone. They had a coach who actually tried to put them in the best position to win.
KingChief - February 21, 2012
Well, yeah.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
I'm insulted with the mediocre qb comment
Thats just a slap in the face to really mediocre qbs. Cassel is far below that,.. and Palko is in a category of his own for possibly being the worst starter in Chiefs history
tomachop - February 21, 2012
woul;da
if marty starts gannon and the donkeys got flagged for cheating
Redreign - February 21, 2012
Even though Alex Smith had an ok year
Bowe signing with SF would be the same as him re-signing here to play with Cassel. I doubt NE would fork over the kind of money Bowe will want. I doubt that NO and GB could afford to bring Bowe in.
KingChief - February 21, 2012
I could see him wanting to play in
Atlanta…that would be a pretty good fit for him. He’d probably get in trouble off the field though…
GOOD THING ABOUT KC, IT’S SO BORING HERE NONE OF THE PLAYERS F UP (sans LJ of course)
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
They have Julio, Roddy, and Douglass though
and I think Roddy recently got a new deal
KingChief - February 21, 2012
NO could if they let Colston walk.
NE has cap room. But their D is jacked up.
GB, I don’t know what their cap situation is like, so I dunno. But I imagine they would be able to make an offer.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
And also consider that Bowe might actually take a reasonable offer if it meant he could get on an established offense,
on a team that had a legit shot at a SB.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
NO has him, Brees, and Nicks hitting FA
they will have to pay for 2 of those guys
KingChief - February 21, 2012
They can't afford to pay Nicks
Guy wants similar to what the other G is getting paid… New Orleans would have 16+ mil wrapped up in 2 OGs? No thanks
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
It's entirely reasonable to think that they could sign Brees,
sign Bowe and let Nicks walk.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
Sign Carr and make the 3-3-5 defense the latest NFL trend
Assuming Berry comes back healthy, we do have the ultra-versatile Strong Safety necessary for such a radical defense.
(I’m mostly kidding)
VermeilLikesToCry - February 21, 2012
Not sure I would hate this actually.
Get a beef cake NT and it might actually work. Berry is versatile enough to attack the LoS or drop back into coverage. That would put a lot of wear on him quickly though.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
Also, safety isn't really out of the question for a "normal" base set
Both Routt and Carr have the frame to handle safety (maybe add a few pounds). Especially if the Chiefs see Lewis as up-gradable. We certainly could use the safety depth.
VermeilLikesToCry - February 21, 2012
anythings bettter than
piscasmelli and langford
Redreign - February 21, 2012
In a way I kind of feel sorry for Bowe.
Dude has had to put up with shitty QBs and a constantly changing offense his entire time here. Surely he wants to get on a team with an established QB and offense. You would think Carr on the other hand would take a reasonable offer and want to stay here. Romeo and Emmit Thomas helped make him what he is today. He’s got great safety help behind him and a solid friend and CB opposite of him. Plus a front 7 that is coming along nicely.
Seems like Carr should want to remain and Bowe to shop, due to the progress and overall state of the team.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
I feel super sorry for Bowe
VJax has 3/7 season that are 1000 plus with a 4000+ yard throwing QB
Bowe has 4/5 (one was 995 w/e) 1000 plus years with a turd throwing list of QBs
Bowe is sick….
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
also
this is extremely overlooked
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
That is the one saving grace in all this.
We actually have a pretty good crop of CBs for them to work with too. Flowers, Routt, Javi, Brown, etc. We’ve invested a lot of resources into getting some decent CB talent. As much as it pains me to say, Carr is expendable. Just wish we could hang on to him.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
That should be a good reason for him to take a home town discount
KingChief - February 21, 2012
Also.... DBowe's season is really overlooked
81 receptions
1159 yards
5 TDs
WHERE TYLER “FREEKING” PALKO PLAYED IN 6 OF OUR GAMES?
I mean… those number are still great. And it’s not like in the other 10 games he had Brady throwing to him… he had Cassel and Orton. SHEESH
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
For real.
The guy is a beast. Those are great numbers with consistently awful QB’s.
can you imagine Bowe with a great QB?
bossmanham - February 21, 2012
you still did not really answer whether Bowe is worth 10 million per based on 2011
He was paid already for those 5 seasons played.
What is he worth going forward
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
I don't think he falls that short of Fitzgerald money, personally.
bossmanham - February 21, 2012
People think he doesn't deserve Top 5 receiver money.
He does. To us. Unless we want to stagnate next year.
WHO ELSE will Cassel LOCK on to?
NJChieffan16 - February 21, 2012
Charles in the flat
tomachop - February 21, 2012
You also have to take into account his previous years of service
And what he can do going forward with a hopefully solid offense.
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
from above
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
900+snaps with 130 targets
is worth 1/12 of our entire salary Cap?
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
Imagine Bowe with a good QB for like 5 seconds
There’s a reason Peyton Manning can make scrubs look like all stars.
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
really what does that have to do with anything?
Indy WR’s should be payed way less cause Manning is throwing to them?
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
Meaning a Good QB makes a WR
If you have a bad QB, and your WR still produces like Bowe does, that speaks volumes on how good that WR is.
Give him Manning, or Brady, or Brees and he’d probably be an All Pro every year.
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
Except how much better would it actually make Bowe
cuz he cant catch the balls that are thrown straight to him
badassz1987 - February 21, 2012
Maybe if he had a QB who could throw the ball straight at him more often
He’d have better practice at it, and wouldn’t drop the ball so much.
His whole career he’s always had to make a play on a badly thrown ball, maybe that’s exactly the problem. If you were Bowe would you ever expect an accurate football to be coming your way?
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
he's worth as much as the other top WRs
Not named Megatron or Fitzgerald
stagdsp - February 21, 2012 via mobile
I guess I am being dense
Are WR’s worth 1/12th of cap at all when you can get similar numbers from a cadre of cheaper WR’s?
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
But you have to remeber how our QB situation has been the whole ime Bowe has been here
He definitely deserves the payday coming his way
KingChief - February 21, 2012
He was paid as a 1st round pick
I don’t see that paying for past performance is a good thing to do
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
And with that thinking we'll lose Bowe
And our entire offense will fall completely apart.
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
I agree sorta
But what would Bowe look like if he wasn’t the focal point of our passing game for the last five years.
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
He wasn't the focal point for 5 years, we still had Gonzo
And being the focal point doesn’t make Bowe look worse, it means that he’s who the defense focuses on besides the running game and he sees more double teams. Yet still produces.
We’ve already seen what happens when he’s not the focal point and we rely on other WRs like against the Donkeys, we can’t get crap done.
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
Targets when Bowe is on the Field
Chiefs offense
2008 – Bowe 16%
2009 – Bowe 11.5%
2010 – Bowe 13%
2011 – Bowe 14%
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
Is that targets, or catches?
And what do teh other WRs look like?
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
targets
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
in 2011
Breaston was targeted 11% of his snaps played
Baldwin was targeted 12.6% of his snaps played
they combined for 1039 yards
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
So
you have ONE player with only 2-3% more targets but 150 more yards than two players combined. lol how do you not see his production?
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
Bowe had more than twice the plays played than Baldwin
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
Bowe often faced the opponent's best corner
or best corner + a LB
or best corner + a safety
You have to consider that in your evaluation…
PVChiefsfan - February 22, 2012
That's nice
And he produces with crap at QB, and when we’re usually last in the league at passing the football per game.
ChiefWarPaint - February 21, 2012
okay but
A point I tried to make last year regards Charles, having one player generating 25% of your offensive output is a bad thing if that player goes down.
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
Without a threat like Bowe
Teams can play run D on us even more. Remember in 2010 when Cassel and Bowe had all those TDs? Bowe was able to keep defenses honest.
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
Or Charles did
not trying to argue against your point completely :)
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
That's how all players are paid
KingChief - February 21, 2012
Um, no.
They’re paid based on what they’re expected to do. Teams look at past performance as an indicator of what they might do in the future, not so they can reward them for what they’ve already done.
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
Well it's both actually
Based on past performance Brandon Lloyd didn’t get a big contract before he signed with Denver. The last 2 years he has showed he can be a # 1 WR so this offseason he will get paid like one.
KingChief - February 21, 2012
I agree it's a lot of cap space for one guy
However, I disagree we’d get similar numbers from a cadre of cheaper WRs. Bowe was far more important to our passing game than Breaston or Baldwin this year; one of those guys was a first round pick and the other a respected slot receiver. I don’t know that either could pick up the slack for losing Bowe. I see the argument for one of two things, paying a top QB that can make lesser WR more productive than they should be or paying a lot of quality receivers to bolster a weak QB. Right now, we have the players to do the second option, not the first.
Chiefs4Life - February 21, 2012
Great argument
as to why a franchise QB is the cheapest way to win.
Brsrkr - February 21, 2012
yeah but baldwin in theory should be as productive as bowe's first year in the league, now that he will once again in theory be healthy and playing a lot
SDChief - February 21, 2012
Can you get consecutive 1000 yard years out of cheaper WRs?
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
With shitty QBs?
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
Can we get a better QB
and find out
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
Lets do it.
Tomahawk29 - February 21, 2012
How would getting a better QB allow you to determine if you "Can you get consecutive 1000 yard years out of cheaper WRs? With shitty QB's"?
PVChiefsfan - February 22, 2012
Do we have an extra seventh round draft pick?
For sending S Jared Page to the New England Patriots? or am I just smoking dope?
xXFlashXx - February 21, 2012
We do
But I don’t see that New England has a 7th round pick this year
Steve_Chiefs - February 21, 2012
Pay the man
HIV 2 Elway - February 21, 2012
Show Bowe the money!!
Don’t pull another Carr, by tagging Bowe then have the possibility of losing him in FA. I say 7 yrs/65 million.
ArrowheadS - February 21, 2012
What has he been offered?
Tarkus - February 21, 2012
I think DBowe
“should” be happy with a 6 yr 50 mil contract. 20 mil guaranteed. With some bonus options built in.
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
Deep WR class in FA this year
Hopefully it will dilute the market.
Pioli is smart to wait and see how things play out with the franchise tag in his back-pocket if necessary. Sort of like we did with Tamba last offseason.
Nick Britt - February 21, 2012
yeah. id be completely shocked if a deal is worked out before they announce their plans to tag him
SDChief - February 21, 2012
can we get the "open thread" started early?
I need to drop KSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU all over Mizzwho fan’s faces.
Brad-KC - February 21, 2012
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