A month ago, Don Banks of SI.com put out a 2012 NFL mock draft that had the Kansas City Chiefs selecting DT Devon Still. Today, Banks' latest mock draft has the Chiefs selecting OT Jonathan Martin out of Stanford.

The Chiefs have to upgrade at right offensive tackle, and Martin is the most obvious direction to head with both Kalil and Reiff already gone. An inside linebacker like Boston College's Luke Kuechly or a defensive tackle like Memphis' Dontari Poe would fill other areas of need with players who will wind up with grades in the top 15-20 range.
In this scenario, both Matt Kalil and Riley Reiff are off the board, which leaves Martin (and Mike Adams out of Ohio State) as the next best offensive tackle.
This jives with Adam Teicher's suggestion this morning that the Chiefs should draft an offensive tackle. You'd get a right tackle for next season and some insurance for the season after that depending on how Branden Albert's contract situation plays out.
One interesting situation that presents itself in this mock draft is Texas A&M' QB Ryan Tannehill being available at the 11th pick. I'm not saying the Chiefs should take him but, in this scenario, the Seattle Seahawks are right behind the Chiefs. They very well could take a quarterback, which makes the Chiefs position one spot ahead of them potentially desirable for a trade down. Something to remember is that teams will trade up for a quarterback. Maybe not many other positions, but a quarterback they will.
Any strong feelings one way or the other on the Chiefs trading down?
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When in doubt, draft beef
Approve
ArrowDread - February 22, 2012
No...
When in doubt, draft beer.
juvatbull - February 22, 2012 via mobile
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Tarkus - February 22, 2012
no tv and no beer make homer go something something..
Rupert Daniels - February 22, 2012 via mobile
Agreed on Martin
good pick, upside as a LT
but, why the hell are people who SHOULD know better still talking about Kuechly for the Chiefs??? the guy isn’t a 3-4 LB, and he sure as hell isn’t a SILB… (good player, though)
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
I dunno
Good players are good players. DJ wasn’t a 34 LB and he’s kicking all ass.
craig in calgary - February 22, 2012
I agree
PVChiefsfan - February 22, 2012
Kuechly would make an awesome SS
Steve_Chiefs - February 22, 2012
Yes
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
He would make an even better linebacker,
you know, because he is a linebacker…
You know who would make a great SS… Eric Berry:

Because he is a Safety and he will be back in less than Eight months killing people.
Chief-blinders-on - February 22, 2012
And I always thought good players were bad players
nateforchiefs - February 22, 2012
Thats the problem with Kuechly though
He’s a hell of a player but he is DJ and there’s no point drafting a guy to sit behind your AllPro LB.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
Jovan Belcher isn't an all pro anything.
craig in calgary - February 22, 2012
that's the point, my friend
Kuechly could ONLY play the WILB spot… where DJ plays
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
Why?
craig in calgary - February 22, 2012
I'm pretty sure we've had this conversation a LOT before
same reason Demorrio and DJ haven’t been the full time starters
“I think there are more strongside inside linebackers that can play the other side if they have a certain skill set than weakside inside linebackers that can come over and play the other side. The strongside linebacker has to take on a lot bigger bodies a lot more of the time.”
So DJ couldn’t move over and play strongside?
“I’m not saying that he couldn’t,” Haley said. “I would say Derrick has the skill set to be that weakside inside linebacker and it’s a very nice fit for him.”
link
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
block quote hiccup there, but you get the point
Kuechly is a weakside guy if he plays the 3-4… but he’s best in a 4-3 like his closest NFL comparison:
Read more: http://www.kffl.com/a.php/129795/160#ixzz1n8aHy13K
Read more: http://www.kffl.com/a.php/129795/160#ixzz1n8aQA5JU
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
Although..
He’s bigger than Belcher (Listed at 6-2, 228), which surprised the hell out of me, Jovan’s a lightweight dude. There’s gotta be something there with technique, aggression, etc., because he’s built more like a SS than SILB.
severn58 - February 22, 2012
belcher is bigger than that now
he’s over 240
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
Someone change his listed weight pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee
BAMFSpecialOps - February 22, 2012
2 things
1) Haley ain’t walkin through that door.
2) I still contend that good football players are good football players. It’s not like we’d be asking him to line up as starting LT or Right Corner back.
I’m not saying he should or shouldn’t be the pick, I’m just saying that you shouldn’t pigeonhole players based on the scheme they played in college.
craig in calgary - February 22, 2012
but, that’s exactly the point… you can’t just take a “good football player” and put him out of position and expect him to succeed.
there IS enough of a difference that it wouldnt’ make sense to take him in the top 15 and ask him to play a position that doesn’t fit his skill set.
Aren’t you one of the guys that wants to trade Dorsey because he’s not “ideal” for the 3-4 ?
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
You can take a good football player and put him out of position
But you don’t do that with #11 unless he’s just too good of a player to pass up.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
sounds like what you hear about martin being picked to play RT?
not a great fit?
chad unit - February 22, 2012
No. I’m one of those guys who wants to trade Dorsey because he’s terrible.
craig in calgary - February 22, 2012
I agree
Trade Dorsey for whatever sandwich you can and sign a guy like Redding and be done with it.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
haha
well, I think you’d be disapointed with drafting another WILB in the first round, too.
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
Meh.
I’m not hoping for Kuechly or anything, I’m just asking the question of why someone in a 43 couldn’t POSSIBLY make the QUANTUM LEAP to the WAY DIFFERENT position of WILB in a 34.
craig in calgary - February 22, 2012
he could play the WILB
just not the SILB
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
That is just not a true statement...
You can say it like fact and believe it like a fact, but the fact is that guys switch positions all the time going from a college guy to a pro guy.
If a team thinks that he can make the transition, than he may be able to. You shouldn’t just say he can’t just to say it.
You look at Kuechly and see an undersized WILB that would struggle at the SILB position with the Chiefs.
I look at Kuechly and see an athlete that dominated at the college level on the middle of the field. One who’s strength’s are intelligence, high motor and coachability.
Those skills will let him transfer to any role a pro team has for him, to say he won’t play SILB just because he can’t is completely silly and I have never disagreed with you more about anything.
This kid will be a great LB and he could probably play next to DJ at SILB, because on defense you play to your players strengths. The combo of Hali, Johnson, Kuechly and Houston would help a coach.
Not make him think, how am I going to play football with these guys, Kuechly can’t shed tackles.
He did everything at Boston College and was very versatile, if the Chiefs coaches think he can play, let him play.
Chief-blinders-on - February 22, 2012
I respect your opinion
but, I’d bet money he never plays a snap at SILB in the 3-4 in the NFL.
I’d also wager he’ll be drafted by a 4-3 team… and that he WILL be a successfull player… just not in KC
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
I'm not saying that he is a perfect fit for SILB
but that teams will take chances on guys like him making the transititon. Look at Corey Liuget last season, he was a blatant fit for the 4-3 according to AP, but San Diego took a chance on him in there 3-4.
I’m only saying that if KC takes Luke Kuechly it is because Romeo and Co. think he can fit and is worth the selection. That will be good enough for me.
I get that you are saying that will/should never happen… and it probably won’t, but it wouldn’t be because Kuechly couldn’t adjust to the role IMO. He is just to good a LB to not be able to fit.
Chief-blinders-on - February 22, 2012
Well different system over there in SD he is playing like a 3 tech
Not 2 gapping, instead shooting gaps.. what we said he would be doing.
He is just not good at taking/shedding blocks, main job of a SILB
BAMFSpecialOps - February 22, 2012
What I don't like about that.
Is that some guys on the internet (all due respect) are the ones assuming that he can’t do that. Taking on blockers and shedding tackles wasn’t his responsibility, mostly due to no one else on the team being very good.
You act as if he played football just nimbly running around the other 21 guys on the field, instead of ever having any contact. I know, I’m being facetious…
I’ve watched a lot of Luke Kuechly, especially lately and he is a physical little player that plays bigger then his size would indicate. He form tackles well, wraps up and has an Eric Berry like knack for being around the ball.
Plus, he can cover well for a LB, a tool I feel is vital for our next SILB, because I’m tired of watching Jovan Belcher get beat on non obvious passing downs over the middle. If Belcher had Kuechly’s awareness that would help.
Everyone says we need a linebacker that can shed blockers and occupy space, I think Kuechly can do that with proper coaching. This guy would run threw a brick wall if you told him it was for the team…
Let’s see:
Incredible nose for the football – Check
Talent – Check
Size – Check
Tackling ability – Check
Coverage skills – Check
Coachability – Check
Vrables – Check
Non stop motor – Check
Intelligence – Check
Leadership -Check
Ability to take/shed blocks as seen through hours of film – ?
To you guys that equals a pass. is Jovan Belcher out there holding blocks so that DJ can make plays?
Because. I am only seeing Jovan get pushed out of plays when he is not tackling a ball carrier or getting burnt by a tight end/ running back in the air.
I like Belcher, but he is no Luke Kuechly… and we would see the difference if we drafted him.
Chief-blinders-on - February 22, 2012
Responsibilty or not
He almost NEVER went through Olinemen to get to the ball carrier, yes you can point to the TFL but those were usually on screens/tosses/stuffing the hole. He does dance around players, and flow along the LOS instead of attacking.. that is not what we use our SILB for.
Next people are going to point out his huge tackle #s instead of seeing how many of those were made yards passed the LOS
BAMFSpecialOps - February 22, 2012
How many of Belcher's tackles are made behind the line of scrimmage?
Chief-blinders-on - February 22, 2012
how many of DJ's tackles were behind the LOS
BECAUSE Belcher blew up the would-be blockers
stagdsp - February 23, 2012
Actually he did go through linemen
I’ve seen it a few times
ChiefWarPaint - February 22, 2012
Hence the
BAMFSpecialOps - February 23, 2012
He could eventually
ChiefWarPaint - February 22, 2012
You're on crack
Terrible? Dorsey does everything the Chiefs have EVER asked of him, and he does it very well.
Dagda - February 22, 2012
I agree for the most part
they’d probably LIKE more QB pressure from him… but they can’t be upset with his run defense
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
Except pick up double teams
Or rush the passer when single teamed
ChiefWarPaint - February 22, 2012
It has less to do with scheme and more to do with ability.
It’s not to say that it would be an awful pick but more one that you wouldn’t be using that players skillset to the best of his potential which isn’t something you do with the #11 pick. Now if you wanted to try to do that with a 3rd rounder that would be a completely different story.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
Allen Bailey at 3-4 DE?
Steve_Chiefs - February 22, 2012
that's actually a good position for him
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
Not as a Two gapper
Steve_Chiefs - February 22, 2012
I think the quotes from Pioli after the draft confirmed
they liked him more as a sub-package rusher… which is how they used him, so it makes sense to me
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
Precisely.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
He will never tip 300 lbs
without it being fat
Steve_Chiefs - February 22, 2012
He doesn't need to though
He’s an absolute beast of a man.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
Do you guys ever get that feeling
that when the replies become so long on SB, that its like reading a Japanese comic book? Not saying that I’ve done it before but this would be a first hand experience.
antirl - February 22, 2012
Kuechly is a play maker but just isn't physcial enough
He runs around blockers instead of engaging them and is much better suited to run free like DJ does and make plays that way.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
What I don't get about the whole SILB/WILB shenanigans every single offseason...
Is that in this offseason, we should be looking for an SILB that can cover a secondary or primary tight end.
Currently, Belcher has questionable cover skills and it costs the Chiefs yards, when he goes out on obvious passing plays. We put in liabilities in coverage like Piscitelli and McGraw (depending on which version shows up)
The Chiefs need a strong player in there and if it’s not one of the top players in the draft, who is it?
I’m hopepful that it is Cory Greenwood, but one thing is certain. They need to find someone before kickoff this coming season or the defense will suffer.
Chief-blinders-on - February 22, 2012
I am hopeful for greenwood
as DJ’s backup
I think the Chiefs will be content with Siler and Belcher at SILB
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
Hopefully DJ won't need a backup
Chief-blinders-on - February 22, 2012
I am hoping Siler can come back strong
but that is a terrible injury that he suffered from. Who knows with him?
Regardless the Chiefs need someone that can cover.
Chief-blinders-on - February 22, 2012
Tough to find a guy who can head-up with guards and centers AND run with TEs.
Brsrkr - February 22, 2012
That is true...
That is why Scott Pioli is suppose to be the best.
Chief-blinders-on - February 22, 2012
At least Belcher can do whats demanded of his position.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
If we're going to draft oline in round 1 it has to be tackle
We have actual players and very good starting caliber players at all the other positions on the line but only have Albert at tackle(not including mims because he’s not worth including). I like Martin but I like Reiff more.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
Rec'd
For acknowledging a 1st round Oline pick has to be a tackle and also for acknowledging that Mims is most certainly a large pilon.
craig in calgary - February 22, 2012
Draft Bobby Massie in the 2nd
Steve_Chiefs - February 22, 2012
Exactly
Everest - February 22, 2012
Every mock I've seen shows Massie gone before 43
Dagda - February 22, 2012
Did we take an OT in those drafts?
in the 1st
Steve_Chiefs - February 22, 2012
Also
The interior oline pool is extremely dep this year compared to the tackles. The difference between Reifff/Martin compared to Sanders/Glenn is far greater then the difference between DeCastro and Zeitler/etc not to mention we have a very good veteran guard for one more season that 2nd or 3rd round beef can learn behind.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
You are looking at things wrong
If you are judging OT talent.. goes
Kalil then to Reiff/Martin THEN to Sanders/Glenn
Cant just throw out a whole step!
BAMFSpecialOps - February 22, 2012
No Adams?
ChiefWarPaint - February 22, 2012
Just used GBs little step down
Had to add the beginning step of Kalil to balance it out
BAMFSpecialOps - February 23, 2012
Love the picture
Sign luck up !
chiefsman! - February 22, 2012 via mobile
Love the picture
Sign luck up !
chiefsman! - February 22, 2012 via mobile
We should draft both
Which reminds me, I should go do another Super Radical Chiefs Mock at Mocking the draft.
craig in calgary - February 22, 2012
Lol
Sounds like a plan. Can’t go wrong having both as chiefs
chiefsman! - February 22, 2012 via mobile
Florio is saying Indy can sign Luck as early as next week
TheValleybetterthanPAC12 - February 22, 2012
It's not unusual for the # 1 overall pick to sign before the draft
David Carr is the only one I can think of off the top of my head that did this before the draft, but there have been others.
KingChief - February 22, 2012
Done.
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/2/22/2817126/kansas-city-chiefs-mock-draft
Check it fools.
craig in calgary - February 22, 2012
Hillarious
Now lets count how many knobs take you seriously.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
What if Luck becomes available at #1? What would you give up for him?
It might sound ludicrous but really they lose cap money by ditching Peyton and who knows maybe Legano wants Manning? You keep Manning for two years, sell off the first pick for a ton in return which you need because you have to rebuild the whole damn team. Then use some of that next year to move around the first round to pick up your QBOTF from one of the 4 studs that will likely be there. Either that or maybe Irsay just likes RGIII better(unlikely….what am I smoking).
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
I love the first comment.
Tarkus - February 22, 2012
Haha ya
The trade for the 1st overall pick “won’t get it done” but he has nothing to say about a 6th and Cassel for Patrick Willis.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
Or Richardson slipping to the 4th round.
Etc.
Tarkus - February 22, 2012
that was good
i lol’d :D
fongKC - February 22, 2012
wouldn't be happy, wouldn't be pissed either
Brad-KC - February 22, 2012
I'm all about getting more picks.
Works on Madden, anyway. =)
(but seriously, the more picks, the better in my book, especially if you can still snag the guy you want)
independent739 - February 22, 2012
The war is won in the trenches...
so any BPA at Oline or Dline has my vote.
angrydeafman - February 22, 2012
Hope he's there when we pick
BJ Kissel - February 22, 2012
how many drafts last year had us with gabe carimi...
Seen it before. If we were gona do it we would have already.
Rupert Daniels - February 22, 2012 via mobile
Remember though that last year we had 3 tackles already under contract
This year we have none worth mentioning.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
Comparing everything else, this makes sense
Not as much need at guard, ILB, RB, etc to justify taking those positions. RT is a HUGE need, and as much as picking a RT at 11/12 might be a reach, it’s probably in our best interests to do so because I don’t think any other position has the same BPA/fills a hole combination as getting a legit tackle would.
Sam D - February 22, 2012
I continue to be surprised
at how high people think our priority at linebacker is.
KCMizzou - February 22, 2012
agreed
I don’t see the Chiefs drafting a LB at all this year… or at least not very early at all
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
It's hard to stomach with DeCastro still on the board.
I would rather go RT in the 2nd and take best talent available in the 1st. DeCastro or Richardson would be nice.
EricBerryYoYouScary - February 22, 2012
I forget
that some people still think we need an LT.
KCMizzou - February 22, 2012
Well I do
get the argument that we get an upgrade at RT now, and have leverage on Albert in contract negotiations next year. So I guess I wouldn’t mind the pick. But I’m with you, we don’t need a LT unless Albert walks.
EricBerryYoYouScary - February 22, 2012
Beats taking a first round RB
Plus PAC10 baller
HIV 2 Elway - February 22, 2012
I got a strategy you can agree with.
Trade back and get more picks, the picks on Pac 12ers
nateforchiefs - February 22, 2012
So you're not gonna acknowledge Colorado and Utah in the conference
KingChief - February 22, 2012
Would you?
HIV 2 Elway - February 22, 2012
According to AD it’s still the Pac 8.
JComp11 - February 22, 2012
Yeah he when he trys to talk shit on my Cats I just point at that '97 Championship banner
And do a little name droppin….Steve Kerr, Sean Elliot
HIV 2 Elway - February 22, 2012
Pac-8 for life baby!
Not the way cooler, politically incorrect ’Furd mascot:
Another Successful Tedford QB - February 22, 2012
note*….damnit
Another Successful Tedford QB - February 22, 2012
We need to take a RT in the first.
If we can trade back and pick up another second or 3rd we can address G as well. Depends on free agency though. I’d still love to go OL then TE
RamX21 - February 22, 2012 via mobile
Was thinking RT
But the more I read about Dontari Poe, I think I’d like a trade down and get him. If he tests out like I think at the combine, we could have that position sealed up for years.
That’s not diminishing our needs on OL but look at FA and a couple of draft choices and pray hard.
cowboyChief - February 22, 2012
Oh he'll test well... problem is he's not that great of a football player
His physical attributes are all he has going for him. Way overhyped.
Everest - February 22, 2012
I could see Pioli making this pick.
With Alberts contract ending this year. Always thinking about the future, getting out RT upgrade immediately (and playing experience for Martin) then having a LT replacement insurance for Alberts future contract negotiations.
KCfosho - February 22, 2012
there's only 1 BA
Albert
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
Agreed.
Tarkus - February 22, 2012
Re-thinking Dontari Poe
I really had no idea Poe was that athletic. If he blows up the combine I can come around on him as a NT in the 1st round
KansasCityShuffle - February 22, 2012
He rarely tore it up in Memphis
I think the NFL might be a huge jump in competition for him
Steve_Chiefs - February 22, 2012
Exactly I guy with that physical ability should have been a man amoung boys
He’s got the physical attributes but isn’t much of a football player, big bust potential.
Everest - February 22, 2012
Nothing to do with anything, other than it boggles my mind
When I’m on ESPN.com, and I see their “Insider” piece, I can’t help but think anyone who pays to get that shit is an idiot.
I mean no disrespect if any of you do. Actually, I do, you’re an idiot.
With all the sports information available, for those scumbags to try to scrounge up a few bucks for the morons who think they’ll get “more” insight is laughable.
Go Chiefs.
Zayla - February 22, 2012
I get it... because you get the ESPN the magazine as well
Good reading material for the shitter…and it’s actually useful from time to have insider access for scouting reports etc.
Brad-KC - February 22, 2012
Idiot.... ;)
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
MUST be!
Brad-KC - February 22, 2012
OK, there's the best reason I've gotten
You never get much these days to read on the crapper. Touché to you my friend.
Zayla - February 22, 2012
That's why you take your lap top with you and read AP, right?
MountainManMike - February 23, 2012
Not too crazy about any of the first round tackles
Kalil, as talented as he is, will have to put on a not insubstantial amount of weight and muscle to be successful at the next level. Who knows how well he’ll be able to carry the added bulk.
Martin and Reiff both seem like finesse tackles who will struggle to anchor against the bull rush, may be left tackles only at the next level.
Adams seems to have all the tools but doesn’t have the mental side of the game down. Without that all those tools may be for naught.
Sanders seems to be another finesse guy and has the hip issue that could likely limit him to only the left side in the NFL.
Which brings us to my newest man crush Bobbie Massie from Ole Miss. The Chiefs should have the inside lne on this guy as three of his former team mates are already Chiefs (Dex, Lewis and Powe). Massie has ideal size and strength at 6’6" and 325 pounds, and is very athletic for a big man. Has shown the ability to get to the second level. Has been a very solid starter, hard worker, and doesn’t have any injury history. He seems to have all those little qualities you look for in prospect that are so hard to find (and that are very hard to teach): natural bender. quick off the snap, has a mean streak and finishes blocks, very strong but still possesses good athleticism. His only real shortcomings seem to be the kind of things that you can coach: inconsistent hand placement and other small technique issues. I think he could be a very good right tackle for us and should be available in the second round.
Everest - February 22, 2012
RAC'd for good info
Brad-KC - February 22, 2012
rec also
Steve_Chiefs - February 22, 2012
green
neiowakcfan - February 22, 2012
Reiff is a finesse tackle?
That’s not what I’ve seen.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
I would say on the Power-to-Finesse continuum
it would go
Reiff-Martin-Kalil
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
extended
Massie-Adams-Reiff-Martin-Kalil-Sanders
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
just for fun...
Mims-Richardson-Massie-Adams-Albert-Reiff-Martin-Kalil-Sanders-Maneri
ok, I’m done now
stagdsp - February 22, 2012
Not a true Finesse tackle like the other 2 however...
However, Reiff isn’t a physically dominant blocker. He’s not gonna drive guys back. He’s a player who relies a lot on his technique. In that sense he’s more on the finesse side of things. I’ve actually followed Reiff’s entire career (Iowa grad) from it’s humble beginnings in a naked police chase through downtown Iowa City ending at a Pita Pit to his final game as a Hawk. While more physically gifted than Bulaga or Gallery, Reiff does share the fact that he is VERY well coached already and doesn’t have as much room to grow as other prospects.
Everest - February 22, 2012
Yep he is
ChiefWarPaint - February 22, 2012
Really appreciate the insight
I love the idea of going OL in the first and second round this year. I honestly believe football games are absolutely won at the lines (both defensively and offensively) and that you’re team will absolutely be exposed if this is not true. If we don’t grab a tackle in the first and a player of this caliber is available in the second, I would be beyond frustrated if we didn’t use a pick on him.
DannyDavis - February 22, 2012
No 1st round Tackle.. RG3 or wasted draft,.
Jeremy Daniel - February 22, 2012
You're going to be one sad sad panda on draft day..
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
I have a feeling your right, and were all going to be sad panda's when # 7 starts week 1 :(
Jeremy Daniel - February 22, 2012
bit overdramatic reaction?
km230015 - February 22, 2012
Gotta be, Pioli looks at these post and takes our comments very seriously.
Jeremy Daniel - February 22, 2012
You could be right.
From Day 1 Pioli has cared too much for the fans.
km230015 - February 22, 2012
Good luck with that.
OJ In Nevada - February 22, 2012
TRENT RICHARDSON!!!
OJ In Nevada - February 22, 2012
Yea really
We should have a post on the front page about him. And a poll.
GenericBrand - February 22, 2012
I believe we did last week my friend.
I wouldn’t mind, but addressing the RT seems more realistic
GaryfromIA - February 22, 2012
Trent Richardson.
Jamaal Charles is a 195 pound running back coming off a major knee injury who has never carried in ball more than 230 times in a season as a pro. If Trent Richardson falls to them he would be the best player available. Thomas Jones is at the end of his career and Jamaal Charles is coming off a serious injury. Running backs slide in the draft, but Richardson is a special talent and too good for Kansas City to pass on. In 2011, Richardson had 24 total touchdowns (21 rushing, three receiving). He also ran for 1,679 yards, averaging 5.9 yards per carry. Richardson caught 29 passes for 338 yards and three touchdowns as well.
OJ In Nevada - February 22, 2012
There are a TON
of RB’s in Free Agency this year, but very few quality QB’s. Rather address RB in FA (Bush, Tolbert, Snelling, BJGE, Blount, etc.) and pick up RG3 and be set at QB for the next decade. In general, quality QB’s are more durable than quality RB’s anyway.
AnkenyChiefsFan - February 22, 2012
All of that is moot, however...
if we do what I want, and get Manning in FA. Then I’m down with Richardson in the first.
AnkenyChiefsFan - February 22, 2012
NO on Trent Richardson
Richardson has benefited greatly from running behind one of the best lines in college football. There is a reason Bama is churning out running backs, and a lot of that is the 5 men in front of them. Without a dominant line that can get him into the secondary unscathed Richardson won’t be successful. At the NFL level even a guy as strong as Richardson is isn’t going to be trucking D-Tackles. Honestly backs like this aren’t all that hard to find, build a dominant line and most any back of this type can succeed. Backs like Charles that have great vision, speed, and shiftyness can succeed behind a less than dominant line, power runners like Richardson can’t.
Add in the fact that this is both a very deep draft class at RB and a very strong FA class and it would be ludicrous to squander a first on a player with very low positional value who doesn’t fit our system. There are a number of backs in this class who could be very successful in the right situation. If you want a power runner, like Richardson is, you would be better off taking O-Line early and spending a 5th round pick on a Bolden, Ballard, or Ganaway or pick up someone like Law Firm in FA.
Richardson falling to us would be ideal for one reason only- it would put us in prime position to trade down. If your dead set on taking a RB high then we could still trade back multiple times to the very end of the first or early second and pick up Lamar Miller. Miller is a far better scheme fit and offers elite speed and athleticism (more of a Charles mold) plus with the extra picks we obtain via the trade down we could land a guard like Glenn, Zietler, or Washignton and a RT like Massie. Basically for the one pick you would have used on Richardson you are landing Miller, Zietler and Massie, I’d vastly prefer that everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
Everest - February 22, 2012
absolutely excellent analysis and insight
rec’d
neiowakcfan - February 22, 2012
To much to read. Got better things to do.
It’s not gonna be up to me r u.
OJ In Nevada - February 22, 2012
Allright well let's just blindly support prospects because ESPN loves them, afterall their are far better uses of time.
Seriously if your gonna go around posting all caps statements about a prospect at least take the time to do some research.
Everest - February 22, 2012
totally disagree
that was great analysis and i would have enjoyed more of it to read. For those of us that “have nothing better to do” keep it coming sir! and rec’d.
fongKC - February 22, 2012
Absolutely agree
Getting that extra pick after trading down will be huge! And I do like whoever floated the idea of Green-Ellis to KC. I think he’d be a good fit
Flash29 - February 22, 2012
Of course, all the other teams we'd like to trade with realize these same things about running backs.
ESPN is setting Richardson up to be this draft’s gratuitous camera cut “WHY IS NO ONE PICKING THIS GREAT KID??!!!!” story.
Brsrkr - February 22, 2012
They need one every year...
Maybe it will be Andrew Luck to the Chiefs?
Chief-blinders-on - February 22, 2012
Stop that, it's just mean.
Brsrkr - February 22, 2012
#7 Pardons sir
Chief-blinders-on - February 22, 2012
What a drag. Down.
Brsrkr - February 22, 2012
nice
Chief-blinders-on - February 22, 2012
guy does got some arms on him in that pic
chad unit - February 22, 2012
If not RG3, Im behind this 100%
Jeremy Daniel - February 22, 2012
I'm with you on RGIII
OJ In Nevada - February 22, 2012
Old cigarette commercial applies
Its what’s up front that counts.
Bilyous - February 22, 2012
Trade down!
We should ABSOLUTELY trade down if we get the opportunity…getting an extra pick would be huge and give us more flexibility/options after the first round
Flash29 - February 22, 2012
Run the dang ball...
A tackle is needed, no disagreement there, however if a very good runningback is on the board, whe should take him without a second thought. The stable is pretty thin t the moment…..
The G - February 22, 2012
RUN THE DANG BALL.....
A tackle is needed, no disagreement there, however if a very good runningback is on the board, we should take him without a second thought. The stable is pretty thin t the moment…..
The G - February 22, 2012
It makes no difference who the RB is
if the DL is three yards into the backfield a half second after the snap because KC’s O-line SUCKS.
If you can’t convert a third and one, you don’t need a RB, you need an O-Line.
neiowakcfan - February 22, 2012
I saw Jerome Bettis try to run through Neil Smith once....
Once.
Brsrkr - February 22, 2012
The longest rush out of the KC backfield last season....
was 34 yards, we scored 5 rushing touchdowns in 16 games.
5 touchdowns….FIVE in 16 games….five…seriously? 5?
First round picks should be used on impact players, IF that tackle can get 15 to 20 touchdowns then yeas, draft him. If not, find someone who can.
The G - February 22, 2012
34 QB sacks
Offensive line ranked in the top half of the NFL
18 INTS
ranks the Chiefs in the bottom 3rd of the NFL
13 passing touchdowns
Only Jacksonville and St Louis were fewer
KC’s best runningback ranked 32ed in the NFL
The running attack of the KC Chiefs does not worry anyone.
A longest gain of 34 yards, and 5 touchdowns in 16 games does not worry anyone. The Chiefs averaged 13.3 points per game….31st of 32.
There is no treat from the ground…none at all. Until this team can force a defense to be honest on 1st and 2nd down, the QB is going to be a big, fat, ripe target. Last seasons team could not force any team to respect the run at all, like it or not.
The G - February 22, 2012
Yeah JC went out for the season
He will be back, we will get a least 1 RB in FA/draft pick/UDFA, the running game will also improve when you do not have Palko at QB.
BAMFSpecialOps - February 22, 2012
Jamaal will be back, I believe anyway
Jamall cannot do it all alone. Do not want to see another 2 games and done for the year out of him.
The G - February 22, 2012
Rec on your Comment
the dude in charge of www.profootballfocus said on the radio the Chiefs Offensive line was pretty good (overall rank 16th in the NFL) cept for the RT play. Just cause we got to replace the RT does not garner a 1st round pick usually
Steve_Chiefs - February 22, 2012
It does when you see how bad our RT is
And PFF isn’t a very good site anyways, Wiegmann as a top pass protector? Hardly.
ChiefWarPaint - February 22, 2012
I heard that also on 610
chad unit - February 22, 2012
Yeah that's where the FA/draft pick/UDFA's come in
No need to waste a 1st let alone the 11/12th pick on a RB
BAMFSpecialOps - February 23, 2012
1st and second round pick
should be an impact player, a game changer, a player that MUST be accounted for..IF and a really big IF that is an offensive tackle..then by all means draft him. If it is a running back, draft him, a linebacker..just make it a sure as possible that the player will have a positive impact on your team.
The G - March 19, 2012
It's kind of frustrating
We haven’t drafted a QB in the first round for what???19 years? If we don’t get one this year… we won’t have another decent pick to trade up until this generation of players starts to decline. What… 5-7 more years? Seriously… quit being fucking “smarter” than everyone else and give KC fans a QB that we can cheer for… that we can attach too. Sucks a D rooting for Matt Cassel… Thigpen…Grbac….etc etc etc
Brad-KC - February 22, 2012
We've got The Stanzi.
Start rooting.
neiowakcfan - February 22, 2012
I agree with you. The time is now.
But who is there to get? RG3 really looks like he’s out of our range. Cleveland, Washington, and Miami all pick ahead of us and there’s no way he makes it past that gauntlet.
Tannehill is a giant question mark. So are the rest of the QBs in the draft. So is Matt Flynn, and we won’t go that road, because we already have (Matt Cassel) and it didn’t work out.
Kyle Orton is not the answer either.
Sooo… do we wait for Cassel to get injured so we can see what Stanzi’s got? Try to nab Peyton Manning perhaps? We could cross our finger for a couple years and hold our breath for a Super Bowl.
A quarterback is obviously what this team needs. But where do those come from?
bamachief5558 - February 22, 2012
I say we trade back trying to pick up as many picks for next year.
That way, we make sure we can draft one of the top guys next year which looks like a much deeper class.
MountainManMike - February 23, 2012
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