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Didn't the Chiefs recently get a new PR guy?

I thought I remember hearing something a few weeks back…

Maybe this is part of Pioli opening up more.

Spiderwomn69 - February 4, 2012 reply

yeah, this is nice

telling us that they’re in discussions with a guy we heard they hired 12 hours before from another source … ah well, better than nothing, right? :-)

Red-Bull Offense

?

BTW Joel

ENOUGH with the “Delocated” Ads. I know you guy have to make a living….but please discontinue.

hey

it is better then the lmfao music video for sexy and i know it. Things could always be worse.

wren42 - February 4, 2012 reply

BRING BACK THE TEA ADS WITH THE BIKINI GIRLS!

ghostofmunicipalstadium - February 4, 2012 reply

I agree

please get rid of the Delocated ads. They did make me spend a lot less time reading all the blogs.

Scott J Farley - February 4, 2012 reply

there could always be that one with Mauer taking a squat

Its SBnation, not Joel(although the guy on the bear kind of looks like it could be Joel)

Send them a letter.

GenericBrand - February 4, 2012 reply

More Beer-Gloves

WTF is a letter?

JT is my conduit into the SBNation inner sanctum, so I call upon him as my appointed representative. Besides…

I no longer own stamps.

A fax maybe

nah, Satch is old-school

Pony Express

Telegraph

Carrier Pigeon

ooooh

Vichy squab

Chief-blinders-on - February 4, 2012 reply

Morse Code

It’s super secret gnus

This needs to be greened.

They did to improve communication with the fans, Ted Crews ladies and Gents. I can get used to this, I want to know what is going on with my team, thank you.

Chiefsallday25 - February 4, 2012 via mobile reply

The Art of the Well-Timed Leak

besides, it took them this long to confirm the discussions with Joel who had to confirm the hiring itself with Schefter

these things don’t happen overnight …

Oh-nos

Someone woke up Joel :)

I know, huh

on a WEEKEND no less!

The Allies are going to have HELL to pay Now

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=1311

Exactly

KCbo - February 4, 2012 reply

New lease on life, Maybe

Barry Richardson, OL, Clemson

At 6-7 and 330 pounds, Barry Richardson is a big, big man. It is not surprising that the Clemson product has decent strength, but he is also surprisingly quick and athletic. Much of that quickness can be attributed to his dropping of 20 pounds prior to his junior season, which obviously increased his speed and lateral quickness. He ended that year on many publications’ All-American team and started the 2007 campaign the same way. A four-year starter, Richardson has all the physical tools to be a quality tackle in the NFL. However, he can have some problems finishing blocks, which makes him an average pass blocker. Some run first team will take a chance on him in the second or third round and work on his strength and finishing abilities. Part of that problem may be because Clemson spent a lot of time on the ground throughout Richardson’s career with James Davis and C.J. Spiller in the backfield. When Richardson has to learn to become a more effective pass blocker, he has the tools and know-how to do it effectively. With a plethora of offensive tackles projected around the second round, Richardson’s stock may end up falling even further. Yet, he does have better physical tools to work with than many other tackles in this class and he just needs a little more coaching to be a quality NFL tackle. 2/27 Update: Richardson has some power at the point of attack, but his numbers at the Combine do not warrant a first round selection. He ran one of the slowest 40s and was not spectacular in the bench press. For a guy who is 6-7 and 330 pounds, nobody expected a fast time, but he could have done more to help his stock. 3/28 Update: Barry Richardson’s stock continues to drop fast. His average showing at the Combine did not warrant a first round selection and now other issues are compounding with his Combine performance to drop him down even further. His lack of intensity is being called into question by many and that will keep some teams away when other just as physically gifted offensive tackles are available. It will be interesting to see how far he ends up falling, but his production on the field does warrant a second round selection. However, that will not be enough for Richardson to hear his name on the first day of the NFL Draft. 4/18 Update: As quickly as Barry Richardson dropped out of the first day of the draft, he dropped down to the fourth or fifth round (according to most pundits). He still has a nice frame, but the amount of work that will need to go into making him a solid NFL tackle seems to be increasing on a daily basis. His sliding down the draft boards might be a little too extreme and somebody will be getting a decent value for their selection if they take him in the fourth or fifth round.

Is that a wall of text

or are you just happy to see me

I am happy to see You :)

Barry’s three best games were with Orton under Center

positiv grade vs Green Bay, decent game vs Oakland (though two penelties in that flag fest) and solid vs Denver.

212 snaps with 1 QB sack and 2 QB pressures

Kyle, Kyle ... wherefore art thou?

Fool me once, shame on you

Fool me twice, shame on me.

We’re on like the 5th “fool me” with BRich….is there a saying for that?

"You're fired!"

Tarkus - February 4, 2012 reply

Both Richardson and Albert look pretty good against those smaller, quicker pass rushers.

The bigger stronger guys, with a bit of quickness off the snap are the ones who cause the most trouble for both, but especially T-Rich.

Heh. B-Rich.

I like the point GB made about Orton beng wanted by Daboll last year

Orton may be the QB competition Pioli talked about

IPWT2009 - February 4, 2012 reply

Will he want to come back to KC?

and “compete” for a job with Matty Nice the golden boy?

ExRoyalsFan - February 4, 2012 reply

My guess is we trade Cassel if we bring Orton back

Cassel has still got to be worth a 5th or lower

IPWT2009 - February 5, 2012 reply

so theres a VERY VERY slim hope

that the Chiefs will do the right thing and drop him and get Saunders instead. .001% is still better than 0

I'm not sure Saunders would be a better option

that said, I can’t imagine Daboll not being confirmed by the team sometime later today

Saunders has called some of the greatest offenses of all time

Daboll have been in the bottom 10 each year IMO Saunders is a HUGE improvement over just another failed Parcells tree coach

in 2011 the Raiders were 16th in total points at 22.4/game

the Dolphins were at 20.6/game … a difference of less than 2 pts/game with far, far, far fewer offensive weapons and less talent than the Raiders had at their disposal

I believe I read that in Cleveland he had something like the 26th ranked Offense

where as Saunders in 2003 had the greatest offense of all time. To me thats all I need to know. Im not saying people cant improve but the truth is one of the greatest vs mediocre who MIGHT improve. Ill take the greatest every time

So are you of the opinion that if you put Daboll on the 2003 Chiefs with Green, Kennison, Holmes, Gonzalez, Roaf, Shields, etc., and put Saunders on the 2010 Browns with Colt McCoy, Peyton Hillis, and Mohammed Massaquoi

that the Browns would be the team with the elite offense?

Im of the opinion that the Browns would have been better yes

and the Chiefs would have not been as good. Elite and terrible Im not sure but things would have been different. If the quality of OC doesnt matter than that would mean Muir wasnt that bad and this offense will suck no matter who we have as an OC so why bother even having one.

Like I said One of the greats vs Parcells coaching tree mediocrity Ill take the greats EVERYTIME

you cant really believe that

Saunders is not great, he rode Vermeils offense in 03 and Hue’s offense this past season, he is not good and would not have done anything with the Browns, if his offense is so great then why has none of his offenses led a team to a SB

banshee_01 - February 4, 2012 reply

sure okay you got me

I dont believe anything I type

AL SAUNDERS SUCKS AND DABOLL WILL LEAD US TO THE SB WITH HIS 29TH RANKED OFFENSE BECAUSE HE IS FROM THE NE WAY

Heh. I do think Saunders benefited from rosters that could execute things the way they're

drawn up back in the office. I’ve never seen him make a silk purse out of a pig’s ear. He kind of reminds me of Mike Martz. Certain things he understands about offense, but what do you do when you don’t have the right players?

In Cleveland, Daboll's offense won

exactly as many Super Bowls as Saunders “greatest offense of all time.”

So he has that going for him.

neiowakcfan - February 4, 2012 reply

sorry that logic doesnt fly with me

might as well hire me then because Im just as successful as Saunders using that logic and Id probably come cheaper than Daboll

Most of AP feels they could be just as successful and come cheaper.

go_saleaumua - February 4, 2012 reply

I dont

Im just saying if your only judged by SB wins than Im just as successful thats why the logic doesnt fly with me

Bullshit. I expect more money than that.

Greatest offense of all time?

The 2003 Chiefs had a 13-3 record, but they didn’t have the greatest offense of all time. I guess the revisionist history proves that Chiefs fans haven’t had much to be thankful for in a long time.

And for the record, I’d rather have Saunders at OC.

old_school - February 4, 2012 via mobile reply

So would most of us.

Have to wonder whether Oakland was asking for draft picks in exchange…whereas Miami was willing to just let Daboll go.

go_saleaumua - February 4, 2012 reply

“The season is best remembered for the Chiefs’ record-breaking offense. On December 28, running back Priest Holmes broke Marshall Faulk’s single-season rushing touchdown record by scoring his 27th rushing touchdown against the Chicago Bears. Quarterback Trent Green threw for 4,000 yards and kick returner Dante Hall returned four kicks for touchdowns.” per wikipedia

21st all time PPG

I cant seem to find it but I could have sworn the Chiefs either broke the yardage record or the points record during the Vermeil/Saunders era

Neither one

The rams, saints, viks, and pats have all had better offense(points,yards).

Tripower66 - February 4, 2012 via mobile reply

I know we set some record for greatness

and not just pathetic defense I JUST KNOW IT!!! :)

Might be they were franchise records, rather than league records.

maybe

I could have sworn it was league but oh well it doesnt matter, we got Daboll and I have to accept that for atleast the 1st week of the season

slackator - February 5, 2012 reply

I can.

I think they’re waiting until after the SB to make it official.

Tarkus - February 4, 2012 reply

possibly

Yeah

Because the offense Saunders was running averaged a whole extra 2 PPG while having significantly better players.

Clearly the dude’s an upgrade, since he was able to coach a great offense with the GOLOAT (Greatest Offensive Line Of All Time). No one else could’ve done that, and he’s had massive success everywhere else since.

Oh wait…

Saunders isn’t all THAT clearly a better option.

MNchiefsfan - February 4, 2012 reply

I know little about Daboll, but I'm not all that excited about Saunders.

Great stats from those years, but the playoff futility wasn’t all the fault of those defenses.

mu-chief-stl.cards fan - February 4, 2012 reply

I hate they way the national media announces this hire

BigChief1177 - February 4, 2012 reply

as more of the patriot way to kc

BigChief1177 - February 4, 2012 reply

...Guy hasn't been a Pat in six years.

Who You Know = How You Get Hired

go_saleaumua - February 4, 2012 reply

Well, as long as he gets a full pre-season,

he’ll improve. I promise you.

Wait, that was craig on Tebow. My bad.

neiowakcfan - February 4, 2012 reply

Daboll Wtf

oh and I guess we’ll get Matt Moore for Qb, I thought Pioli was trying to keep his job. Look guys, Miami had a decent defense it was the offense why they wasn’t winning that many games.

no Matt Moore

but believe it or not I have seen people elsewhere clamoring for Chad Henne which is beyond stupid IMO

You mean the offense that hung 31 on us at Arrowhead in week 9

and averaged more than 24 ppg after that?

that was 22nd in the league

or 29th when he was at Cleveland, but hey 29 is an improvement from last years 31st under Muir I see greatness ahead, you can never go wrong with the Parcells/Belichick coaching tree

Sarcasm font fail.

Everybody loves the sarcasm font, until it cuts off half the text in your comment and then what?

But you’ll get no argument from me that Miami offense started off poorly. But with no off-season and the personnel they had, I also think that’s understandable.

Let’s put it this way: If the Chiefs offense averages 24 ppg next year, it’ll be ranked quite a bit higher than 22nd. It would have been good for 10th just behind the Giants this year.

maybe so

but where does 30.25 that Saunders had with the Chiefs without the weapons we have now put us? If the hiring does indeed happen which theres a 99.9999% chance it does I hope he does indeed improve but Im just not seeing any evidence of that being the case to pass up on Saunders for

Wait up a second.

but where does 30.25 that Saunders had with the Chiefs without the weapons we have now put us?

Is the implication here that Saunders didn’t have the kind of weapons back then that he would now? Because I like a lot of our offensive pieces quite a bit. But Trent Green was embarrassingly superior to Matt Cassel, the offensive line was one of the best ever, and Tony Gonzalez and Priest Holmes were in their primes. I like Bowe and Charles as much as the next guy but come on.

Green>Cassel
Holmes=Charles slight edge to Holmes but run the same kind of offense I think you would get similar results
2003 OL > 2012 OL but can be fixed easily wont be as good as the G.L.O.A.T. but can be good
TRich>McClain
now to the real comparisons
Gonzo>Moeaki but can be similar if Moeaki can stay healthy if not theres a few options out there to be recieving TEs
Kennison<Bowe
Morton<Breaston
HallCloud or whoever was our backup not counting 2.7 because he was still in diapers while Priest started

throw in McCluster and yes with Cassel either finally showing hes worth it or a solid QB magically somehow appearing out of the mists and a couple of upgrades to the OL this Offense has the potential to be better than 2003 especially when you consider they wont HAVE to score 30pts a game because we now have a defense

Yes, Mthammer. They got some things ironed-out up front, and Bush decided to run hard.

After that, they were pretty damn tough. I was surprised and sort of disappointed that they fired the HC, who had brought ‘em out of the rough spot. I’’d’ve given him another year, to see if they could continue the path they were on, after the KC game woke ’em up.

I first saw this on facebook

The Chiefs put the ‘discussions’ statement on there and my first impression was to wonder if they were trying to gauge fan response before actually pulling the trigger.

If so, it’s not going well. People are ripping it apart on there for the most part. Would be great if they actually haven’t done it yet and change their minds. I really doubt it though. Like someone said, it’s probably just damage control.

TheScootness - February 4, 2012 via mobile reply

Doubtful, IMO

ExRoyalsFan - February 4, 2012 reply

Any chance they're doing this to gauge fan feedback?

It’s an uncharacteristic move for this franchise to let something like that “leak”; being that their reputation is a little tarnished right now, and with the hiring of a new PR guy, I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a method the Chiefs will take on more; letting nuggets slip out to gauge fan reaction. Not on everything – they will always make what they think is the best decision, but in some instances, I wouldn’t be surprised if they quit being so secretive and tried to find out what fans wanted first.

P.S. I’m thinking this is what the Steelers are doing with the Todd Haley for OC candidacy. They’ve interviewed several candidates, but they only posted about one on their official website; with Haley’s reputation, they might’ve been trying to find out how people reacted.

Probably wrong, but it’s a thought.

MattHoover - February 4, 2012 reply

PIT OC would be a dream job for Haley. A foot in the door, on the team he grew up around.