One of the reasons I thought the
Kansas City Chiefs hired Brian Daboll as offensive coordinator was because he ran an offense similar to the one in which
Matt Cassel has had his most success. Maybe that played a role in the hire but it wasn't the overwhelming reason why Daboll was hired, Romeo Crennel said on Tuesday.
"It's more about Brian than it is Matt Cassel," Crennel said on a conference call with KC reporters this morning.
Crennel said Daboll was the first person he offered the coordinator job to and that the search took so long because Daboll was under contract with the
Miami Dolphins. He also indicated that the Dolphins wanted to keep him and other teams were interested in him as well.
As for the the offense he'll run, Crennel said when you compare it to KC's offense last year or New England or Miami, it's more like the Dolphins. "You can see some no huddle, you can see some multiple tight ends, you can see some two back, some one back, so we can see it all," Crennel said. He also mentioned having balance in the offense as far as the running and passing game is concerned.
We'll have some more details on what he said about the staff (right after I eat at this Chinese buffet for lunch...yeah, we're a real professional operation around here). Check our Twitter feed --
@ArrowheadPride -- for a few more details, including Crennel's expectation that Jim Zorn will remain with the staff.
Growing more fond of this hire
I like Daboll’s history with lesser talent. Getting more excited for the offense thinking about it
RememberDelaney37 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Daboll asked about the chiefs offense: "the first word i want to use is attack."
chiefFANatic - February 7, 2012 via mobile
I assume he doesn't mean Dex draw plays up the middle.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
what are you talking about??
those are our best plays!!!!!
GaryfromIA - February 7, 2012
Yeah, they even work 5-10% of the time!
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
60% of the time they never work
RememberDelaney37 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
60% of the time, it works every time...
SFLChief - February 7, 2012
x
SFLChief - February 7, 2012
nice
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
If the Daboll hire meant #7 was going away
I’d be good with it…regardless of if he’s a shitty coordinator or not.
SCKSChief - February 7, 2012
Still very meh.
bossmanham - February 7, 2012
A balanced attack that includes Pay Pay??
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
Pay Pey
Nick Britt - February 7, 2012
as long as it's not Pee Pee
Ochophosphate - February 7, 2012
as long as it's not Che Che
Slim with the Tilted Brim - February 7, 2012
If the Dolphins wanted him then how did he get here?
electriclight - February 7, 2012
Coach change.
West coast HC wanted a west coast OC.
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
Is it out of the norm for teams to have 2 offensive coordinators?
KingChief - February 7, 2012
I defer to Oscar from "The Office" on this one
Steve_in_RI - February 7, 2012
Liked the organization more?
Liked the coach more?
Getting paid more?
Potential HC after Crennel retires?
Could probably think of more. Not saying any of the above happened, but they’re possibilities.
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
The same way Gailey ended up unemployed for a year after Haley got here
RememberDelaney37 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Pioli, Crennell and Daboll have a history together going back to the Pats
upamtn - February 7, 2012
yepper
Dabolls record as OC? In three years he went 13-32 for a .333 win percentage. If ya’ll thought Haley’s .427 was bad, what’re ya gonna do with daboll?
Aiken_Drum - February 8, 2012
**should be 16-32**
Aiken_Drum - February 8, 2012
He's the oc
Not the HC. Why wool I look at the records of his teams. Look at Al Saunders “record” since he left kc. The rams, skins, and raiders didn’t win a lot with al coaching.
Tripower66 - February 8, 2012 via mobile
I guess that's why you wanted him back so badly???
Aiken_Drum - February 8, 2012
Not the fans...the article said the management wanted him.
electriclight - February 7, 2012
Obviously, they didn't want him.
electriclight - February 7, 2012
Why is that obvious?
MNchiefsfan - February 7, 2012
because he's not there anymore
Chiefs_KC - February 7, 2012
Didn't he get let go with the HC and the whole staff?
MNchiefsfan - February 7, 2012
Ummm, kinda my point.
The article says the Dolphins wanted him but he isn’t there. Something is incongruous.
electriclight - February 7, 2012
When a HC is released, the staff generally goes with
Doesn’t seem to be a stretch that they reached out to him afterward, once they got their new HC in place.
But I guess we can always assume everyone is lying, unless they’re saying something bad about Pioli… right?
MNchiefsfan - February 7, 2012
Is it just me...
Or other then his initial press conference has Romeo trying to detract from Cassel at every opportunity?
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
Oh no.
Pioli is married to Cassel, and Romeo is just his puppet.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
Aha! Hand up the ass!
Thats why Romeo always has that goofy grin on his face.
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
Wouldn't you?
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
I have a goofy grin just thinking about it.
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
I still have ten years before I hit 40 and the prostate exam becomes a part of life
I’d rather not think about it until then (or even after then)
Sudden - February 7, 2012
Ugh
I have a mere 4 years until I need to fill out that “Change of sexual orientation card” which accompanies said procedure…shit.
SCKSChief - February 7, 2012
Wait...
you’re supposed to get one at 40? I thought it was 50…I’m 42…ug….
AnkenyChiefsFan - February 7, 2012
Have fun with that :)
MNchiefsfan - February 7, 2012
And we saw what happens when you go against Cassel/Egoili...You get your ass fired and made to look like a lunatic AKA Haley
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
If you are going to use weak, immature nicknames, we prefer Casshole
RememberDelaney37 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
REALLY?? cause i think that nicknames makes more sense than Casshole... ASS!
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
Neat?
RememberDelaney37 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Hopefully we won't ever need to use Dabhole.
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
Dabollshit
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
Now that is just "petulant"
RememberDelaney37 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Oh I like that one.
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
You are the ones who are Daboll lickers!
tasty little guinea pigs - February 7, 2012
LOL!
and rec’d
cheapham - February 7, 2012
You mess with Daboll, you get da horns?
SFLChief - February 7, 2012
And where exactly do you get da horns?
Right in dabolls?
TRSChief - February 7, 2012
Well, to be fair
Haley made himself look like a lunatic…
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
really?? cause the way i see it he sitting pretty nice in Pittsburgh and im pretty sure they dont hire lunatics..
Mark my words KC will regret firing Haley!!!
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
They just fired their last OC.
That’s why the position was available.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
Its the Steelers!! One of the best organizations in the NFL. if KC could half of what Pitts is we wouldnt be sitting her bitching about a pathetic QB situation..
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
I hear there is room on the Pittsburgh Haleys bandwagon still
RememberDelaney37 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
The guy who was supposed to get the job literally caught on fire.
That’s what it took to get Haley a job. Someone nearly had to die.
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
And now I'm going to hell for laughing at that.
MNchiefsfan - February 7, 2012
Agreed.
Tomahawk29 - February 7, 2012
Also, the whole lawyer thing.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
Details
MNchiefsfan - February 7, 2012
haha
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
Consider them marked. We ready to move on to things that matter for this team yet?
RememberDelaney37 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Yep im ready to move on, I just personally think Haley has what it takes and was put in a shitty situation in KC.
Im ready for RAC now and pray we address the QB
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
In this day, most head coaches are put in "shitty situations" if the team can't find an elite QB
Unless your last name is Harbaugh
RememberDelaney37 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
That dude is magic
MNchiefsfan - February 7, 2012
Nah, this dude is magic
TRSChief - February 7, 2012
Pittsburgh doesn' thire lunatics?
I offer up James Harrison as evidence contrary to that.
TRSChief - February 7, 2012
Ha!
MNchiefsfan - February 7, 2012
So Haley will get credit
For the steelers offense doing well next year, though they’ve been pretty good for years. That’ll prove the chiefs wrong, how?
Tripower66 - February 8, 2012 via mobile
That whole hobo-chic thing he had going on didn't do him any favors.
It reminded me of the “Derelict” collection in Zoolander.
joplin chiefs fan - February 7, 2012
no one made haley look like a lunatic more than himself
shaytron - February 7, 2012
exactly
I don’t see how Jeremy thinks Pioli made Haley look like a lunatic…unless he really thinks the phones were bugged.
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
I dont think Pioli made Haley a lunatic, i think that the hatred between them made haley to look like a lunatic.
Haley and Pioli were at each others throats day one when Haley realized he couldn’t win with Cassel. The easy schedule made them tolerate each other and then when our top players went down and Pioli did nothing to help. Thats when Haley did what he thought he had to " hit them where it hurts" at started Palko damn well knowing this was the end. I give him credit for standing up for himself.
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
So you think Haley stuck with Palko
to stick it to Pioli?
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
Yes that is exactly what i think
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
dont get me wrong, i dont agree bc i consider that incredibly selfish, but i he stood up to "big brother" haha
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
By screwing over the other coaches, players and fans?
That’s standing up to the man?
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
It was all worked out with Mike Tomlin in advance
ensuring that Tomlin would face Tim Tebow in playoff round one.
Sudden - February 7, 2012
Which didn’t turn out so hot for the Steelers
ExRoyalsFan - February 7, 2012
No kidding.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
True, but nevertheless improbable.
And
Omar EppsMike Tomlin being a man of his word still consented to his end of the bargain.Sudden - February 7, 2012
If so
then Haley is a complete asshole. Because that would mean he was also sticking it to the entire organization, including the coaching staff, all the players and the fan base. I would hope that he’s more of a professional than that.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
If that was the case
Haley would have obviously lost his team completely. Do you really think the players are going to let that slide and not say anything about it? Do you really think Bowe and others are still going to have that much respect for him?
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
I agree but i think Haley looked at it as egtting back at Pioli/hunt.. but in reality it just hurt the season ticket holders and fans
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
How do you agree and then try and make a similar point disagreeing?
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
I agreed that it was a dick move, but i try and look at it from Haley point of view
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
It was about securing his employment in PITT
See my boxed comment below.
Sudden - February 7, 2012
Which team benefitted the most from Haley's playing Palko?
Denver, by winning the division. Which team benefited most from Denver winning the division? PITT, the #5 seed. Where did Haley end up getting hired immediately after being released from KC? PITT.
Where there’s smoke, there’s usually a crazy man with a beard and crack rocks and makeshift freebasing devices around him.
Sudden - February 7, 2012
This means absolutely nothing to me. Zero, zilch.
Where are you trying to go with this?
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
I am going
down (as in see the comment immediately below this until the threading replaces it with another response)
Sudden - February 7, 2012
I already read it.
And it still sounds like crazy talk.
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
Lol
well, it is a feeble attempt at some snarky humor. And no, I don’t seriously think that. Although the way things align, it at the very least makes for a premise worth examining.
Sudden - February 7, 2012
ok got ya :)
But here at AP it’s hard for me to tell who joking around sometimes…
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
Heh, I chuckled.
TRSChief - February 7, 2012
As do I
My recent comment from the Stanzi thread in the fanposts:
Sudden - February 7, 2012
Classic conspiricy theory!
I love it! My thoughts exactlyt. I also thought there was something wierd about Haley when…………ummm…..I think Giorgio Tsoukalos is knocking on my window……..he’s yelling something about the Anunaki and Fibonacci……I gotta go…….
MtnChiefsFan - February 7, 2012
Is that when the rift started
Or after Weis left? It’s tough to tell
MNchiefsfan - February 7, 2012
Yep...Cept maybe mchoodie
AnkenyChiefsFan - February 7, 2012
Damn...
AnkenyChiefsFan - February 7, 2012
How the heck
do you post images here?
I feel like the guy on the 4G commercial saying “You know how to post videos to facebook?”
AnkenyChiefsFan - February 7, 2012
I've noticed that too.
And it is good.
severn58 - February 7, 2012
Overall i dont mind the hire, he made a beast out of Hillis, turned Reggie Bush's into a 1,000 yard rtusher and not to mention Matt Moore posted many 300 + yrd games
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
and ruined McCoy's eardrum?
upamtn - February 7, 2012
Ok
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
Colt McCoy is widely known
As an unbelievable crybaby
MNchiefsfan - February 7, 2012
That's okay. You should see what Shaun Smith's ruined.
TRSChief - February 7, 2012
What if he brings Moore for the "Competition for cassel"
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
Or Orton
Who Daboll wanted before last season started?
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
yeah
I wouldn’t hate it
stagdsp - February 7, 2012 via mobile
I would prefer it be Orton
SCKSChief - February 7, 2012
I would much rather have Orton than Cassel anyday..
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
Oh yeah.
I forgot about that little twist to the plot!
Wichita Chief - February 7, 2012
Do we know it was Daboll who wanted Orton, or was it Sporano?
I don’t think OC’s have that kind of pull
Chiefs_KC - February 7, 2012
please don't :(
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
I know i like Matt Moore, but not the QB we need. We need to make a statement and get Payton or RG3 not excuses!!
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
I don't think the Saints plan on letting Sean Payton go....
oh, you mean Peyton Manning.
Sudden - February 7, 2012
THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP!!!!
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
Sorry
Didn’t mean to be a dick about it, but for some reason that’s one of my odd pet peeves.
Sudden - February 7, 2012
Spotted dick?
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
They make a salve for that?
SCKSChief - February 7, 2012
I believe the only prescription is more cowbell?
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
In that case
I got a fever!
SCKSChief - February 7, 2012
what a typo?? thats a lame pet peeve bro
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
LMAO
It wasn’t a typo, you’ve been screaming for “Pay Pay” [sic] throughout every thread this morning. A typo is a one-off error, yours was a blatant and redundant mistake repeated with the same nauseating frequency as your Peyton Mancrushing.
If you’re going to trumpet the merits of signing a 36 year old QB fresh off his third neck surgery, at least get the dude’s name correct.
Sudden - February 7, 2012
Agreed.
If only we’d have gotten Jeff Fischer, we wouldn’t be worrying about the QB.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
Yeah, bro. That's almost as lame as using the words "lame" and "bro"
RememberDelaney37 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Ok my bad.. Ill make sure to spell his name correctly and watch my lingo anything else ladies??
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
That will be all. Just don't be lame, bro
RememberDelaney37 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Aw yeah
TRSChief - February 7, 2012
Sure
You don’t need to put an exclamation point or multiple question marks after every single thing you say.
Makes it look like you’re yelling.
And also, I SWEAR we’ve met…
MNchiefsfan - February 7, 2012
It's growing on me
But still very much in a “wait and see” mode. I have to admit that he has the look, for what that’s worth.
cowboyChief - February 7, 2012
down boy!
ExRoyalsFan - February 7, 2012
Daboll
quoted as saying he has a lot of confidence in Matt Cassel. I hope there is true competition this year.
redngold1 - February 7, 2012
I have alot of confidence in my car to get me to work.
But I would have much more confidence in a newer, better car that makes me go faster.
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
You need a Camaro ZL1.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
Pffft Chevrolet
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
+580
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
I'm starting to wonder if I even know you at all....
If this was a poll I’d be voting “not sure”.
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
Agreed, go ahead and pick yourself up a 2012 Acura NSX
I was on the fence, but that Super Bowl commercial sold me.
severn58 - February 7, 2012
Yea I'm all for this.
And I’m pretty sure I can take on Seinfeld to move up the list.
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
+$24,600,000,000
still owed….
Sudden - February 7, 2012
Exactly
I have confidence that I can choke down a Big Mac for lunch.
But, I’d rather have a steak.
Scott B. - February 7, 2012
Hopefully a lot of confidence in holding the clip board and getting water for Payton/ RG3
Jeremy Daniel - February 7, 2012
This proves he's a terrible coach.
How can you have confidence in a QB that can’t freaking throw?
bossmanham - February 7, 2012
Cuz any new coach is going to come out and say
I have no confidence in this or that player.
Give it a break. NOTHING will be proven until we see our offense this year.
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
many many sub 200 yard passing games ahead.
Book it.
bossmanham - February 7, 2012
He said that?
My opinion just took a180, send him packing after that statement. Maybe Pioli was in the room, or had “ears” in the room.
tomachop - February 7, 2012
Coming from coaching
Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson, Jake Delhomme, SENECA WALLACE, & Colt McCoy… Cassel probably looks like delicious spotted dick
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
Could it be that we finally will have one coach that has most of the say on offense?
I could be wrong, but I’m sure Haley had a strong voice in running the offense over the last three seasons.
I’m not blaming Todd Haley, but when your OC and HC see things differently on offense, it will probably show.
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
RAC has said he'll pretty much leave his OC alone.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
Great!
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
that's a good change of pace
…. unlike Muir’s PACE maker!!!
GaryfromIA - February 7, 2012
You mean that Zorn/Muir/Haley triumvirate wasn't effective?
joplin chiefs fan - February 7, 2012
GOOD
MNchiefsfan - February 7, 2012
Hard to mess with someone
when you don’t really know what they do.
Aiken_Drum - February 8, 2012
Just saw Arrowhead Pride's twitter referencing their poll that only 19% of the fans approve the Daboll hire....
I think they need to stop using that as a stat. The poll just isn’t properly put together.
If I were to put a poll up that asked if people think spotted dick tastes good or not… the vast majority would vote no without any further knowledge of the food. In reality, it’s a tasty British steamed suet pudding containing dried fruit (usually currants) commonly served with custard.
So… with the lack of knowledge people just make snap decisions. I have no way of knowing if if someone educated on the Daboll hire would change their opinion, but I find it hard to believe it’d be so lopsided.
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
"it’s a tasty British steamed suet pudding containing dried fruit (usually currants) commonly served with custard."
In all fairness this isn’t making me want to vote approve. It still sounds like it tastes like dick.
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
british cuisine is not exactly high end stuff
that’s why they conquered the world you know…they were looking for better take out
sm7600 - February 7, 2012
Either that or to force their spotted dicks on us?
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
I vote No
on the spotted dick, striped dick or any dick.
Hoochdawg - February 7, 2012
Note to self...
“Next fan post, leave out any and all dicks”. Check.
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
Check.
Hoochdawg - February 7, 2012
Yes, enough about the Vermeil era.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
Abstain from Vitale while we're at it.
TRSChief - February 7, 2012
How about Butkus?
Does he have to be left out, too?
AnkenyChiefsFan - February 7, 2012
If this is to be a Dick-free zone, I'm afraid so. =/
TRSChief - February 7, 2012
True statement
I hear ya Brad, but none of those polls really mean anything at all until game day comes.
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
I think he is calling Chiefs fans ignorant
Nick Britt - February 7, 2012
I KNOW i'm calling YOU ignorant.
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
I don't have a problem with you calling me ignorant
I do have a problem with you calling everyone here who disagrees with your opinion ignorant or “unintelligent.”
Nick Britt - February 7, 2012
You're just upset I you couldn't debate with me yesterday :(
I’m sorry, I’ll go easy on you from now on.
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
I understood.
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
Following your Spotted Dick poll - I'd like one asking if they'd like to see an Elegant Tit...
Assuming most would say “yes” – they can collectively be disappointed by the resulting image.
source
Ochophosphate - February 7, 2012
What about long-tailed titties?
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
I prefer my tits to be elegant
a “long tail” could be scary.
Ochophosphate - February 7, 2012
Scary?
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
Touche - not the "tail(s)" I had in mind
We’ll expand the poll to include both Elegant and Long-Tailed.
However we must continue to disappoint with zoologically accurate follow-up photographs. Keep this beaut bookmarked for another time.
Ochophosphate - February 7, 2012
ok
The Shoebill, Balaeniceps rex also known as Whalehead is a very large bird related to the storks. It derives its name from its massive shoe-shaped bill.
The Shoebill is a very large bird, averaging 1.2 m (4 ft) tall, 5.6 kg (12.3 lbs) and 2.33 m (7.7 ft) across the wings. The adult is mainly grey, the juveniles are browner. It lives in tropical east Africa, in large swamps from Sudan to Zambia.
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
Ha! Who is this odd bird?
I meant that we should tease with “Tit” polls and then show pictures of birds.
Regardless – 4ft tall and 7ft wide – crikey! I don’t want a run-in with any bird that I can punch in the face without squatting.
Ochophosphate - February 7, 2012
It was a tease. Didn't you expect more?
=P
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
And I wouldn't be punchin' that bill.
I’d go low. It looks weak at the legs.
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
Stevie is that you?
Wichita Chief - February 7, 2012
Well that's just not Berry nice.
TRSChief - February 7, 2012
... you know what to do
Ochophosphate - February 7, 2012
I love titties...big juggs...Got milk? I digress...
Slim with the Tilted Brim - February 7, 2012
The poll is really about the fan's reaction to the hire
I think that’s interesting, thus the poll. I think it goes without saying that no one can predict how this will go. Even the head coaches with the most information make bad hires. Nobody knows how good or bad someone will be but we all have opinions (which is what the poll was about).
Joel Thorman - February 7, 2012
Still.
It would be nice to see an updated poll. A lot of people have warmed up to Daboll after learning more about him.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
Yaboll Daboll Doo!!!!!!!!!
Chiefs Fan in SC - February 7, 2012
ha
nice
chiefsman! - February 7, 2012
Gonna take much more than that
to convince me that this is a good hire
werewolf_1979 - February 7, 2012
It's like trying to convince someone to be a mormon before they get their own planet.
Watch here.
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
If there is one thing in the world that Mizzou and Jayhawk fans can agree on,
It’s that Daboll is a completely uninspiring hire.
fightwookies - February 7, 2012
This just shows the inteligence of Mizzou and Jayhawk fans then...
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
So anyone who isn't ecstatic about the Daybull hire is no unintelligent?
Nick Britt - February 7, 2012
now*
Nick Britt - February 7, 2012
of course not,
but he’s implying the entirety of both fan bases can agree it was an uninspiring hire…which yes, would be unintelligent.
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
I think there are legitimate concerns with Daboll
The fact that all of his offenses (minus about 6 games) have been among the worst in the league is very concerning.
Nick Britt - February 7, 2012
You could make a strong argument that even despite injuries we were working with more talent then Daboll ever had in Cleveland
And look where we stood last year?
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
That's a good post. +1
I disagree because of player personnel on the offensive side of the ball in Cleveland and the fact that it was his first few years as a 34/35 year old OC. But this is at least a good argument.
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
Wrong!
Daboll is a great hire, and go MIZZOU!
neiowakcfan - February 7, 2012
Cassel can make the best OCs look like Bill Muir
ArrowDread - February 7, 2012
Truth
RememberDelaney37 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
@SI_JimTrotter
I also think Romeo Crennel’s hiring of Brian Daboll as offensive coordinator was smart and solid. Now find a QB. #chiefs
Chief Willie Wildcat - February 7, 2012
Trotter speaks the truth.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
Sign Peyton Manning and the OC won't matter
Nick Britt - February 7, 2012
Also from @SI_JimTrotter
“Had a good talk w/ Dwayne Bowe other night. Said he likes Haley and spoke to him recently. Said they had issues his 1st year, but not since.”
So let the Bowe to Steelers banter begin.
Chief Willie Wildcat - February 7, 2012
yea , that would suck on SO many levels..
chiefsman! - February 7, 2012
Man I'd drink myself into (more of) a stupor (than usual).
TRSChief - February 7, 2012
Wallace on one side and Bowe on the other?
With Rapingbugers throwing the ball? That would be pretty potent.
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
Don't forget
Antonio Brown
GaryfromIA - February 7, 2012
Do we get
Antonio Brown in consolation?
ExRoyalsFan - February 7, 2012
@SI_JimTrotter again...
“Last thought on KC: I believe Bowe wants to stay with the Chiefs longterm, but the contract has to be right.”
Chief Willie Wildcat - February 7, 2012
They've got way too many holes
To drop big money on a WR. But who knows?
MNchiefsfan - February 7, 2012
I don't see it.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
Funny quote from Rotoworld
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
More crap from people looking for big names
We don’t need a big name made from riding the coattails of a superstar player. We need someone making their name from making chicken salad from chicken shit
RememberDelaney37 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
For some reason, the Pats are still the Evil Empire in the minds of many
Sudden - February 7, 2012
I agree...
but, adding the big name players couldn’t hurt either.
Face Painter - February 7, 2012
What exactly is funny about that quote?
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
i think it is a bit more sense if you add what they said before that
Talking about how crennel wants the type of offense ran in miami in 2011 , which sets the bar low because they were 22nd in the league and only averaged like 318 yards a game or so .
chiefsman! - February 7, 2012
matt cassel is OK
but no OK QB went to the super bowl this year…
chiefsman! - February 7, 2012
Do you have a link?!
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
lol
just lost it ….
chiefsman! - February 7, 2012
ah found it
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/01/22/patriots-last-stop-on-ravens-super-bowl-bid/
chiefsman! - February 7, 2012
That OK QB
would have been in the super bowl if evans didn’t blatantly drop a touchdown pass inside a minute.
ExRoyalsFan - February 7, 2012
Alex Smith and Joe Flacco came very close.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
yes
but i want to go to super bowl , not just be close. Even though i would love to be close also ! And i would probably put flacco ahead of cassel ..
chiefsman! - February 7, 2012
Probably???????
saskwatch - February 7, 2012
Like him or not
Approve of the hire or not
Daboll is our OC…so get used to it.
I don’t wanna hear your Daboll crap!
Matt_Grbac - February 7, 2012 via mobile
ArrowheadHunter - February 7, 2012
Put a title on the comment please.
I want to remove pictures I don’t want to look at. Thank you.
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
Not sure why people think
a 36 year old with 3 years of OC experience can be a retread of anything.
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
But the 65 year old guy they wanted is not.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
agreed.
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
Crennel should be considered one
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
But he's ours now.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
agreed again
So we have 1 retread…which isn’t something people should freak out about
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
Hmm....
Considering this phrase could almost be exactly applied to Peyton Manning, I find this highly ironic.
Sudden - February 7, 2012
I guess I don't follow = /
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
Peyton is 36 years old
and considering Jim Caldwell coached that team for the last three years, you could argue that Peyton was the de facto coach.
Sudden - February 7, 2012
ahh
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
Better than Bill Muir
That’s all I can say….MUCH better than Bill Muir.
Matt_Grbac - February 7, 2012 via mobile
at least he'll stay awake
chiefsman! - February 7, 2012
That's because he's da Red Bull.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
Yep
And from what I understand he is very excitable and energetic.
When is the last time our OC wasn’t either falling alseep or driving a scooter around the complex.
Matt_Grbac - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Technically, our OC from 2009 was
excitablevulgar andenergeticunhinged.Sudden - February 7, 2012
More like...
ArrowDread - February 7, 2012
more like this
Sudden - February 7, 2012
Should have got the big one....
ArrowDread - February 7, 2012
TWSS
Sudden - February 7, 2012
Where did you get that picture of Muir?
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
This is where the rubber meets the assembly line?
severn58 - February 7, 2012
I'm willing to bet Daboll thinks he can fix Cassel
Just like Weis “did”. Please, please prove me wrong. I’m begging this organization to convince me that Cassel won’t be the quarterback until Pioli gets fired.
old_school - February 7, 2012
He's got you right where he wants you
ExRoyalsFan - February 7, 2012
I'm not sure there's going to be enough crow to go around if Cassel goes out and throws for 4000+ yards and 30+ TDs this year
The whole species might actually go extinct.
GenericBrand - February 7, 2012
I actually expect it
Cassel looks like one QB in even years and a completely different QB in odd years. It’s an even year, but the playoffs will occur in an odd year (woe be upon us). What we need is for the team to carry a horrible QB to the playoffs in the 2013 season, and then Cassel will magically transform into the ghost of Johnny U and put up the greatest postseason in the annuls of NFL lore.
Sudden - February 7, 2012
This is hilarious, and true
I love it
Ochophosphate - February 7, 2012
As the world ends in December 2012
No worries about poor play on 2013.
ExRoyalsFan - February 7, 2012
I wish he would, seriously
but he won’t. That’s the problem here. Too much hope when we’ve been proven wrong long enough.
old_school - February 7, 2012
Good Cassel years: 2008, 2010
Bad Cassel years: 2007, 2009
He had a statistically solid year in 2010, but once January 2011 rolled around, he shat the bed against Oakland and Baltimore.
Sudden - February 7, 2012
Correction
bad years are 2009 and 2011…. although 2007 might be bad since he never saw the field. (I’ll give him a pass for not beating out a QB who threw for 50 TDs and won 18 games though)
Sudden - February 7, 2012
Hmm... the good Cassel years in 2008 and 2010 coincide with facing two of the weakest opponent schedules of the past 20 years
No surprise there Cassel looks like an NFL QB against weak opponents. It’s the average and better opponents where he looks like he never played QB in college…. wait a minute
Chiefs_KC - February 7, 2012
If Cassel read the posts on AP of what most of us think about him....
tomachop - February 7, 2012
Good thing
It’ll never happen
RamX21 - February 7, 2012
If that happens
I will write MULTIPLE 2000 word posts apologizing to Matt Cassel, Aiken, and anyone else who still thinks Cassel’s got what it taks.
MNchiefsfan - February 7, 2012
Not to mention
Lucifer looking for some new digs thanks to the frostbite….
AnkenyChiefsFan - February 7, 2012
Why can't we just agree that there probably wasn't any candidate
that wouldn’t spark this type of AP reaction. If it was Saunders, many would have loved it while people like me would have been bemoaning the double-dip on Senior Citizens.
Short of Don Coryell or someone of that nature, we will never agree.. Let’s just enjoy the hire and starting firing the missiles at each other if it doesn’t work out.
Now that I think of it though, Coryell would require passing and everyone would get mad cause we have Matt Cassell. Scatch him.
Carry on, don’t mind me, just no new RG III scenario today and I’ll be set.
Steve_in_RI - February 7, 2012
Trade Bowe and This/Next years 1st round draft picks
Boom: RG3
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
That was very rude.
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
Well played
Since that has been said before, I will not count that as a new one.
Steve_in_RI - February 7, 2012
How about
Our 1st and 3rd for 2012, 2013, and 2014 drafts
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
How about
We see what Daboll can do for out offense….THEN start throwing stones. Now hear me out, I know this is a new and scary idea.
If we let Daboll either hang himself or rise from the ashes like super hero then we can form opinions and criticisms.
I know this may be an idea that will get me banned from AP or the internets all together….but it has legs and it could work.
Matt_Grbac - February 7, 2012 via mobile
I love it!
Funny how that hasn’t occurred to the pitchfork and torch crowd.
neiowakcfan - February 7, 2012
x
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
Isn't that what I was just saying?
Steve_in_RI - February 7, 2012
yeah, so rec'd
above
neiowakcfan - February 7, 2012
That's not the modus operandi of AP these days
Anymore, it’s about which clique you belong to and how many insults you can hurl at anonymous posters you will never actually get to know in person.
I will say that Daboll’s track record is far less impressive than when we hired Weis as OC. I’m looking forward to ANY change in offense compared to what we saw this year, but I’m not holding my breath that we’ll see as much efficiency as we did under Weis.
Chiefs4Life - February 7, 2012
should be a huge difference with Jamaal and T moe back...
like apples to oranges…
SFLChief - February 7, 2012
Well that's no fun
I have all these stones and can’t throw them?
TRSChief - February 7, 2012
I'm really interested in learning more about the Chinese buffet.
Pacific Chief - February 7, 2012
Yeah.
All this talk of noodle-armed Cassel has me hungry for some chow mein.
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
Pey-Pey Chang's?
Chiefs_swagger - February 7, 2012
hahah
this came up under google images for ‘noodle arm’
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
Odd.
nateforchiefs - February 7, 2012
Ha!
Tarkus - February 7, 2012
I hope
GaryfromIA - February 7, 2012
#7
GaryfromIA - February 7, 2012
Agreed, this chatter about shitty Cassel has me starved for a pu pu platter
/sorry
severn58 - February 7, 2012
That reminds me of a scene from the movie...................
A Bug’s Life
LadyChief - February 7, 2012
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Tarkus - February 7, 2012
So this will be
Cassel’s…well, the Chiefs 4th year in a row with a different OC. I just hope this guy works out and we can have some consistency.
As said above, someone liked Weis’ credentials more than Dabolls… but what does it matter if the guy leaves after 1 year. YA know?
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
I think that's ovverrated. Look at what Cam Newton and Andy Dalton did without meeting the OC until September
Good QBs don’t make and don’t need excuses
Chiefs_KC - February 7, 2012
Very true.
Mr.Pibbs - February 7, 2012
well we don't have a good QB
So a new scheme every year is more difficult for a guy without the skills to just go out and play.
Brad-KC - February 7, 2012
Good God...
Can’t wait for the Chiefs to annihilate teams this year so people will STFU about the Haley/Pioli/Daboll/RAC nonsense. This is going to be an incredibly long offseason.
Tomahawk29 - February 7, 2012
So when Daboll and RAC disagree, will it be
“Daboll Trouble”??
AnkenyChiefsFan - February 7, 2012
I will not renew my tickets for the season if cassell is the QB its that simple im not gonna watch a noodle arm try to get us to the promise land
I DONT WANT TRENT DILFER I WANT A FUCKING QB PIOLI< LAST CHANCE TO SAVE THIS FAN.. 1 MORE OFFSEASON ILL GIV YOU
woody555 - February 7, 2012
That oughtta do the trick.
Chief-blinders-on - February 7, 2012
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